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How long does google take to recalculate landing page quality score?
kevgibbo




msg:3164859
 12:40 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I've made some on-site changes following the recent AdWords quality score changes and I wondered how long it takes for Google to recalculate the AdWords landing page quality score?

Is this reset every time the adwords bot spiders the site?

Thanks,
Kev

 

Green_Grass




msg:3164892
 12:57 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

A Long Time. Last time it took me two months to upgrade QS.

Maybe faster this time ..who knows.

narsticle




msg:3165019
 3:19 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

2 months? Thats a nightmare!

ember




msg:3165021
 3:21 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I asked Google this question last week and was told it takes from weeks to months.

Green_Grass




msg:3165029
 3:27 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Patience... ;-)

Google seems to work on slow time tables with sites with staying power.

IM_Mike




msg:3165169
 4:46 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

You can try changing something in your ads to bring the bots back...

-Mike

idolw




msg:3165233
 5:25 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

in another topic people were giving 'evidence' that low QS is binded with the account not with pages by checking how much they would pay for 'dfrekltnhjond'.

so i guess it will take a while to recover.

exmoorbeast




msg:3165315
 6:32 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I really don't know why AWA can't pitch in here and say something like, it is no regular timescale, or it is a pre defined time we are looking at, or by all means email support for a re calculation.

It wouldn't hurt the algo to give out a small bit of information like that. I have got friends that were hit, and I have pursuaded them to hang in there and change their site around, basically doing Google's job! They were just about to completely abandon adwords, and who can blame them.

It's kind of like saying, okay your site's not good enough, go and sort it out and we'll look at it, but we are not telling you when we will look at your ad submissions again. When I re submitted schoolwork, at least the teacher had the decency to tell me when I was gonna see the results back. Google does nothing, and we are paying them. It's a bit of a farce if you ask me. People have ad budgets to spend, so why not at least tell them if there is any chance of them spending it in the next month or so, because they could probably spend the money elsewhere if they couldn't with Google. Instead they wait, sometimes when it's completely futile to do so.

There should be a button on the site that requests a re visit, or a manual review for people that think they have sorted their site. I am also all for a QS indicator, so at least we all know what Google thinks of our sites. Rbcal said it was maybe in Beta...that will be interesting to see.

exmoorbeast




msg:3165319
 6:35 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Double Posting

rbacal




msg:3165380
 7:27 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's kind of like saying, okay your site's not good enough, go and sort it out and we'll look at it, but we are not telling you when we will look at your ad submissions again. When I re submitted schoolwork, at least the teacher

This isn't elementary school. That aside, my guess is that there IS no specific time line they can offer you that would be useful to you. Google does a lot of updating in a rolling fashion, so it's not like it necessarily recalculates everyone on each Tuesday, for example.

Would it really be helpful for google to say "It may take between 10 days and 10 months to see the changes if QS?"

I agree that it would be helpful to know, but you also understand that it would make gaming the QS system much much much easier. If I was google I'd be inclined to say SOMETHING about updates, but not enough to game things.

exmoorbeast




msg:3165403
 7:41 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yeah, it's much worse than school actually! I've been in various business over the last 15 years, and never have I seen a situation like this, it's bizarre, and from what I can see Google is starting to give out more and more information about QS, since it's only proper business practice to do so imho.

Also agreed that they are running a system which needs to be played, and we have done really well from this, and we love the fact that people just throw money at the problem rather that understanding that Google Adwords does need to be worked. We looked at someone's account recently that spent millions of usd a month, just on one category, and they didn't even use exact match! So, for all the losers there are winners. I'm currently just a winner trying to stay that way!

rbacal




msg:3165428
 8:01 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Also agreed that they are running a system which needs to be played, and we have done really well from this, and we love the fact that people just throw money at the problem rather that understanding that Google Adwords does need to be worked.

I was using the term "gamed" to refer to methods intended to cheat, steal, or otherwise circumnavigate QS, and the purposes of QS, or in other words, to get around the rules.

I don't know if that's what you mean by "gaming".

Hiccup




msg:3165517
 9:28 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

They'll never give out a timeframe because it they do and miss it, everyone will complain.

It's like when I tell my wife I'll do the dishes and she wakes up in the morning and they're not done. I just tell her I didn't tell her WHEN i'd do them, I just said I'd do them.

Best way to get your bids back is buy a new domain. The second best is to change your ads to force them to look at the site again.

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