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What if I bid $10? Will I pay that amount exactly or a lower one?
Anyone tried?
gnotte




msg:3019174
 1:35 pm on Jul 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but if I remember correctly, the bid amount is not an exact amount, but a "maximum".

If my competition is bidding $0.50 per click and I set the maximum bid to $10, will I pay $0.51 or will Google charge me $10 per click?

Has anyone tried this with any result?

One more question:
How can I call Google? Where can I find their phone #? I sent them a support request on Tuesday, but I still haven't received an answer from them!

Thanks.

 

inasisi




msg:3019178
 1:45 pm on Jul 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you Min CPC is $10 then you will be paying $10 per click and not $.51

I think their contact number is 1-866-2-Google

inbound




msg:3019179
 1:46 pm on Jul 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's likely that you will pay A LOT more than 50 cents. Some people are reporting paying 100% of their bid, even at high levels. Our experience is that the terms that were on bids of say 40c but needed 50c immediately started costing 40C, previously they would be maybe 10 to 50% lower than the max bid.

If you are going to try it then set a daily budget that you would be happy kissing goodbye to at $10 a click.

Green_Grass




msg:3019183
 1:50 pm on Jul 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Bid say 50% of the asked for bid. You should see decent impressions. As no. of adverisers for various keywords are currently few, you should manage a decent CTR and traffic.

This is what I am currently doing after the last QS update.

Managing some traffic although much more expensive than previously :-(

gnotte




msg:3019454
 8:56 pm on Jul 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks guys.

Regarding:
1-866-2-Google

Is this a US number? How do I call this from Europe?

venrooy




msg:3019832
 6:52 am on Jul 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

A lot of it depends on your "quality score" - However if Google said that you had to raise your bid to $10 because of your quality score, then that's exactly what you'll pay per click.

I tried it thinking that I'd only be paying slightly higher than the next highest bid - boy was I surprised.

wired in asia




msg:3019980
 12:08 pm on Jul 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

sorry inasisi

not sure where u see Min CPC? As far as I understand the average CPC is based on the quality/performance of your ad. And expenses are based on the average, not min., not max.

Pls. do correct me here if I am wrong.

eWhisper




msg:3019984
 12:19 pm on Jul 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

This is a good thread for understanding what you pay per click with AdWords:
[webmasterworld.com...]

It should be noted that since that thread was written, Google introduced a more complex min CPC system. Basically, when the formula in the thread above is run, the second part will be 'you'll pay either $0.01 above your competitor or the min CPC for your keyword, whichever is higher'.

The Min CPC number can be found in two different ways:
1. Run a keyword level report for your account and include 'min cpc' as a column.
2. Change the CPC for your AdGroup to $0.01 and you'll see messages like 'raise your cpc to $x.xx to activate this keyword'. The $x.xx is your min CPC.

Green_Grass




msg:3020059
 1:59 pm on Jul 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

"As far as I understand the average CPC is based on the quality/performance of your ad. And expenses are based on the average, not min., not max."

Things have changed at Google. Those with a 'low quality score' will pay the min CPC if the bid amt., is raised to that level. Be careful.

wired in asia




msg:3021322
 11:54 am on Jul 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

thanks eWhisper

Understood. Sorry, but actually I was referring to bidding among the top 3 positions. As google use the 'silent' bid option, we simply can't tell how much our competitors are bidding.

Is there any way to learn competitor bids via the google reports (or an approximation)?

chickenpaw




msg:3021647
 5:24 pm on Jul 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

I tried it:) Got 8 clicks at $10 bucks each.

koncept




msg:3021960
 10:32 pm on Jul 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Here's a question regarding these new minimum bids...

I have only a few keywords that have gone up to the $10 mark. The majority of them have gone up to either 50 cents or a buck. All the keywords were functioning before with bids between 4-9 cents or so.

If my keywords are only being incresed to 50 cents (ie. 6x, rather than 100x +) does this perhaps mean that my quality is too low, but not as low as it could be?

Do different quality score ratings cause a varying degree of minimum bid requirements? Does the lower increase I've experienced mean I am closer to acheiving a passing grade with some work on my site?

Just throwing some thoughts, questions, out there.

eWhisper




msg:3022473
 12:14 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

There isn't a way to see a competitors bid.

Some look to the Overture tool to determine a competitor's bid range. Other's try to reverse engineer position and bids (however, with QS being so much of the formula - this has become increasingly difficult as opposed to a couple years ago).

AdWords is designed for you to set your Max CPC to what is profitable for you and ignore the bidding considerations of others. Of course, this doesn't really happen - but that's part of the system ideology.

Green_Grass




msg:3022484
 12:24 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

"AdWords is designed for you to set your Max CPC to what is profitable for you and ignore the bidding considerations of others. Of course, this doesn't really happen - but that's part of the system ideology"

This may no longer be true. Currently bid prices are determined by QUALITY OF LANDING PAGE. That is all. Competitors bidding is no longer a factor or a factor only if the LANDING PAGE QUALITY IS HIGH.

Google no longer is bothered about other factors except to meet its 'Vague unknown ' standards and then bid prices are being determined. The game has changed.

Green_Grass




msg:3022498
 12:35 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Do different quality score ratings cause a varying degree of minimum bid requirements? Does the lower increase I've experienced mean I am closer to acheiving a passing grade with some work on my site? "

Interersting point ..Maybe.

I have a few low bid prices for a few keywords which have an very exact match on my landing page. They may be considered very very relevant for my site and maybe my low quality score allows these keywords to stay active ( albeit at a slightly higher price) because the low QS puts more upward price pressure on less relevant keywords and less for more relevant KW?

There may be some logic....

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