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Does anyone run Adsense and Media.net on the same site?
londrum

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 10:53 pm on Feb 5, 2014 (gmt 0)

I've recently got it into my head that it would be good to diversify, and get some more advertisers on my site.
I've already got 5 or 6 different ones, but adsense is by far the biggest earner. I know that isnt very healthy, so im thinking about swapping out half of their placements for media.net
The ads wont appear on the same page - i know you cant do that - they will have the whole page to themselves

Hopefully i'll get a bigger variety of ads on my site, instead of the same old ones popping up every time.

Im just wondering if anyone has done something similar, and had them both running on the same site. Is it even possible? Im assuming there is no rule against it, as long as they dont appear on the same page

 

ember

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 11:07 pm on Feb 5, 2014 (gmt 0)

The ads wont appear on the same page - i know you cant do that - they will have the whole page to themselves


Actually, you can do that if you run them through dfp. I have both on my sites, although adsense takes up the most real estate. Some days media's rpm can match that of adsense. Other days, it is about 20% of adsense. The plus with media.net is the excellent customer support. The negatives are no real time reporting, no ctr stats and little control over ad colors (the powers that be at media.net decide what is best and automatically implement those colors).

netmeg

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 11:22 pm on Feb 5, 2014 (gmt 0)

I don't know why you can't have media.net and AdSense on the same page as long as they're styled differently; I have. I just haven't been able to get much out of media.net.

londrum

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 12:00 am on Feb 6, 2014 (gmt 0)

I was just having a nose around the DFP site and saw they've still got askthebuilder as a case study. Didn't he have a big barney with google a couple of years ago after panda give him a kicking? I guess they must be best buddies again

ember

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 12:13 am on Feb 6, 2014 (gmt 0)

Didn't he have a big barney with google a couple of years ago after panda give him a kicking?


Yes. I'd be surprised if he is back.

denisl

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 7:49 pm on Feb 6, 2014 (gmt 0)

I've started split testing between Adsense and Media.net. I was invited by media.net and like you would like to diversify away from Adsense although i don't expect to better them. I am a week into this test now and using a php script to randomise which ads to show on a page, am giving them 33% of the best parts of one site and 25% of another site(I started with 50/50 but cut it down). At the moment media.net is giving me less than half of adsense but will give them more time for the test.
I am not expecting them to be as good as Adsense but may end up giving media.net a smaller percentage to keep my account live in-case it improves.

londrum

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 8:31 pm on Feb 6, 2014 (gmt 0)

i'd be interested to hear how that test goes.
like you, i don't mind taking a little bit of a hit in money, if it means getting more big advertising programs on my site.

GoNC



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 9:31 pm on Feb 6, 2014 (gmt 0)

I replaced one Adsense banner with Media.net for 10 days. It made $8.

The same banner from Adsense usually made around $50 /day.

Like you guys, I didn't mind taking a LITTLE bit of a hit for diversity, but that was a lot more than a little!

IanCP

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 10:01 pm on Feb 6, 2014 (gmt 0)

@netmeg
I just haven't been able to get much out of media.net

@denisl
I was invited by media.net and like you would like to diversify away from Adsense

Lately I've been receiving invitations from media.net - as well as others. So far I've ignored all.

My reasoning mainly being I'm not confident anyone will beat AdSense in the big overall picture. I have minimalist AdSense on my pages - predominantly 728 X 90 and to run anything else means I have to exchange AdSense for any newcomer.

To put this into perspective for you all, my sites happily existed in the days long before AdSense was invented, even before Google came along. They are educational sites wholly intended for the visitor. They were only monetised initially to cover my ever escalating bandwidth costs [circa 1998-2001].

No, I won't annoy my visitors with a plethora of ads.

Therefore the question for me is, do I give up AdSense real estate for a competitor, in the hope there will be a stunning and very significant improvement in revenue?

Almost every contributor to this thread have confirmed my previous instinctive answer of NO!.

denisl

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 10:23 pm on Feb 6, 2014 (gmt 0)

My situation is that although Adsense is not doing quite as well as last year, my best affiliates (on pages where they are relavant) have halved their commission. Not wishing to rely too heavily on Adsense, I am willing to do some testing.

avalon37

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 10:35 pm on Feb 6, 2014 (gmt 0)

Testing is good, but there is statistical significance that for the majority of advertiser AdSense (to date) cannot be beat.

netmeg

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 10:53 pm on Feb 6, 2014 (gmt 0)

My audience is pretty well targeted to regions (states) and the ads that I seem to be getting from media.net are much more generic in nature; my users seem to respond pretty well to local goods and services, plus *specific* travel and vacation type ads (I mean specific to the areas I cover). Nobody I've seen seems to be able to match AdSense for that kind of inventory.

guggi2000



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 7:44 am on Jun 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

@denisl

3 months into this thread, can you give some feedback on how it went with media.net.

Did you see an improvement?

denisl

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 12:37 pm on Jun 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

@guggi2000 Have kept my experiment going as Media.net was looking a little better and wasnt sure Adsense was going.
Looking at the figures now on the site that showed most promise (a slightly technical info site with world wide appeal but most visitors from UK)
Adsense showed virtually identical RPM for April and May.
Media.net RPM was 73% of Adsense in April, and 87% in May. Like Adsense, there is considerable variation from day to day.

netmeg

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 12:37 pm on Jun 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

Yea, but mostly only because my traffic is way up. You really need a bunch of traffic to succeed with media.net, I believe.

By default they have some mobile ads that anchor themselves to the bottom of the viewport - if you don't like that kind of thing, you'll want to turn it off.

birchy



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 11:40 pm on Sep 9, 2014 (gmt 0)

I have the rare situation where I have a lot of content on each page, so the three ads allowed by Adsense don't dilute the content very much. I've used Media.net for over a year now and their revenue has increased over the months to where it is about 30-40% of Adsense. But most pages have 6 to 10 Media.net ads.

I would say that Media.net makes sense to supplement (add to) AS, but not to replace.



The MN ads that I see looking at my pages are pretty bland, compared to AS, but I think they occasionally place better looking ads for some users.

I've tried SwithAds as well, and they have better looking ads, but they only pay for impressions and it would have probably taken a year from me to get to the minimum $100 payout.

I've also used Amazon ads, but am getting much better income from AS and Media.net, so I've dropped them from the slots that I can put AS and MN in. I still have a product associated slot that gives me about $10/mo.

Side question. There is no "Bing Ads" anymore, right, it just diverts to Media.net, right?

[edited by: martinibuster at 3:45 pm (utc) on Sep 11, 2014]
[edit reason] Removed commercial solicitation. [/edit]

ember

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 11:56 pm on Sep 9, 2014 (gmt 0)

But most pages have 6 to 10 Media.net ads


I didn't know you could put that many ads on a page. It thought the maximum was 2 ads per page.

breeks



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 3:22 am on Sep 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Very happy with media so far. RPM almost the same as Adsense.

Ad style seems to bounce around but they look nothing like Adsense.

birchy



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 3:26 am on Sep 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Not as far as I know (if you are referring to Media.net. AdSense is three, as I'm sure you know). I should clarify, that I use leaderboard size banner ads to break up the long columns of copy, a situation that few others would have. On a normal PC screen, one only sees 1-3 ads at a time. "Above the fold", there are no ads and a lot dense content.

eek2121



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 6:36 pm on Sep 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

I run media.net ads on my site with AdSense. I have 1 AdSense ad above the fold and 1 media.net ad above the fold. I then have 1 AdSense ad midway down the page in the content, 1 AdSense ad at the bottom of the content, and 1 more media.net ad at the bottom. Of the sidebar.

londrum

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 7:50 pm on Sep 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

has anyone had media.net ads mimic the style of the adsense ones?

i tried media.net and had the usual contact guy, talking about placements and stuff, and he said the styles would bounce around for a while whilst they tried different things. but after just a week they started mimicking the google ads exactly, apart from the colours. they even had the little circle arrows the same.

i still had adsense in another slot on a page, so i took them off. they were only earning peanuts after a week, so i wasnt bothered with it.

now i'm thinking of giving them another go... but am wary that they might try and mimic the styles again. you cant keep checking all the ad styles yourself,

anefarious1



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 8:59 pm on Sep 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Hello londrum. I know what you mean. I believe Media.net uses actual Adsense ads in some cases, not mimicking. Maybe they are able do that as some sort of inventory reserve. I don't completely understand it myself but I'm pretty sure it's Adsense!

denisl

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 9:32 pm on Sep 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

I randomly give media.net a % of impressions on some pages but I have the page showing all Media.net of all Adsense aas I felt this was safer.

birchy



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 6:10 am on Sep 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

I've been running them together for over a year and the Media.net ads are usually ugly green button ads grouped together in one slot and all MN slots have the same ad. (At least they are when I view them, haven't tried viewing from other people's puters. And I only use the 728x90 format.)

netmeg

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 12:24 pm on Sep 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

(You know you can style them, right?)

birchy



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 12:31 pm on Sep 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

There's no styling on these banner ads.

adamxcl

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 5:08 pm on Sep 14, 2014 (gmt 0)

I use both and media.net does about 35% of Adsense, better than anything else I have tried so far. It has been jumping up lately for some reason while Adsense has been going downward again.

birchy



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 3:08 am on Sep 15, 2014 (gmt 0)

Sounds like your experience is the same as mine. I received a email saying I'd been bumped up to better ads a few months ago and the revenue *did* increase a little since then.

breeks



 
Msg#: 4642837 posted 5:00 pm on Sep 16, 2014 (gmt 0)

Only have media on some hand picked test pages. RPM is better than Adsense ads. With more impressions no doubt RPM will drop.

Ads very low end stuff: wrinkle cream, is he cheating on you, unrelated ads mixed in with ads that match content.

Media not suited for prime ad positions but OK for fill in.

So far this month made several hundred dollars with then.

Not sure what min payment is.

netmeg

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Msg#: 4642837 posted 9:20 pm on Sep 16, 2014 (gmt 0)

Minimum payment for media.net is $100 like AdSense.

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