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February 2014 AdSense Earnings and Observations
RedBar




msg:4642050
 10:48 am on Feb 3, 2014 (gmt 0)

I'll kick it off then!

 

Lame_Wolf




msg:4643352
 5:55 pm on Feb 7, 2014 (gmt 0)

@chokko, whyohwhy, scottb. You are not alone.

netmeg




msg:4643368
 7:59 pm on Feb 7, 2014 (gmt 0)

Actually picked up a bit for me. Traffic is great, even CTR isn't too bad, but the EPC is really down.

Frost_Angel




msg:4643412
 1:20 am on Feb 8, 2014 (gmt 0)

I'm getting more traffic than I have in a while - and usually -- at least ever since I started with adsense (2003), an increase in traffic meant more clicks, more earnings.

NOT the case right now....seems like everything is down EXCEPT CPC. Which is awesome.... IF I were getting clicks. LOL

glitterball




msg:4643421
 2:39 am on Feb 8, 2014 (gmt 0)

Seeing a drop off after a good January (this seasonality is normal for me). CPC dropping quite a bit suggesting that there are less advertisers bidding.

RedBar




msg:4643500
 2:49 pm on Feb 8, 2014 (gmt 0)

An average 2014 day on Friday apart from EPC which was well down at 70%.

I have no idea from where to get more traffic, Google's destroyed mine with their image grab of 12 months ago. My 403s Forbidden were into the hundreds of thousands per month therefore I've removed a couple of galleries.

Mentat




msg:4643683
 10:08 am on Feb 9, 2014 (gmt 0)

I just got this, ad an ADX publisher


Dear Valued Client,

DoubleClick Ad Exchange experienced an outage resulting in a drop in bid requests to some RTB buyers. The issue is now resolved.


During the outage, publishers experienced a drop in auction pressure which may result in lower eCPMs. For publishers using DFP and dynamic allocation, ad serving was not affected. DFP continued to serve ads when AdX did not have an ad to return.


This issue began around 10:40am and was resolved by approximately 2:10pm PST today (Wednesday, February 5, 2014).

Regards,

DoubleClick Ad Exchange Team

primoto




msg:4643833
 7:49 am on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

this weekend was a disaster... 0 clicks for both days
weekend are usually lower, but it was never like that

netmeg




msg:4643862
 12:20 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

The bots must have really been out of control yesterday. One site got a hundred times the clicks/earnings that it normally should (and no traffic to support it)and Google didn't take it out automatically. So now my own accounting is going to be messed up until they do. Thanks, Google.

Frost_Angel




msg:4643915
 3:43 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

I love it when I see this big note in my adsense account:

"Your earnings on XXXX were 75% below our forecast"

Ummmm... yeah... I know!

EditorialGuy




msg:4643919
 4:21 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

More of the same here. Okay by recent standards, but no more than okay. (2003 it ain't.)

MrDC




msg:4643924
 5:15 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Same, things have been pretty weak in general.

There was a strong push yesterday to go past that magic average number I seem to land around every day but clicks disappeared as fast as they came.

I think I also got hit by a bot again. Around midnight I happened to noticed a low performing ad had spiked. I immediately removed the ad and it stopped this time. The clicks were removed quickly this time. Between this forum and the support forum, seems this is still happening to others as well.

Lame_Wolf




msg:4643932
 6:18 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Samr here.
On Sunday, I had over 10% CTR. It didn't stay for long as they were removed by G within 2 hours.
Today, I have had more money removed, than I have earnt.

netmeg




msg:4643939
 6:50 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Yea the invalid clicks were flying back and forth all day yesterday, and most of them were taken out but at some point they stopped taking them back, and the invalid ones are still there for yesterday. And no way that site did four figures in February.

chokko




msg:4644011
 10:43 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Ya i usually get half my day chopped in half at some point, just had over 60 invalid clicks apparently... like 60 percent of what i earned...

netmeg




msg:4644012
 10:47 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Still getting mad invalid clicks across multiple sites.

paulfitz




msg:4644013
 11:08 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Yep same here. Today I am seeing massive invalid clicks across a number of websites. Last night before I went to bed I had $200 in invalid clicks. Now it's ping ponging all over the shop.

Page views are WAY down according to Adsense, half the normal. It seems that when Adsense removes an invalid click it doesn't just remove the invalid page views but a few hundred either side of it!

So right now running a record high RPM and record low page views.

Normal days I am seeing the same as most people - RPM continuing to slide lower, the Adsense model dying a slow death for some publishers.

Lame_Wolf




msg:4644014
 11:08 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Still getting mad invalid clicks across multiple sites.
Same as. It is getting tiring.
avalon37




msg:4644024
 11:28 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

How is everyone coming with invalid click data? AdSense does not show us this do they?

MrDC




msg:4644028
 11:41 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

Wow, it must be a mess at Google today. I've only been using Adsense for a year so I can't say how common this is but I have not seen it at this level before. Does anyone have any deeper information on what's happening? Is it an attack of sorts that Google has not been able to rein in?

The first time it happened, removing the affected ad unit did not help so I assumed it was internal, but last night when it started, I removed the ad unit after I saw the spike and it immediately stopped.

I assume no one knows anything more, as I have come to learn Google doesn't volunteer any information, but I guess this is only going to mean even more aggressive click removal for all of us this year.

MrDC




msg:4644030
 11:59 pm on Feb 10, 2014 (gmt 0)

@avalon37

These are different than the regular invalid clicks. This is a constant stream of clicks coming in all day long adding hundreds of dollars to the earnings reports. In some cases they are being removed and in some not. I imagine there are thousands of publishers with their earnings reports all screwed up now.

netmeg




msg:4644044
 12:46 am on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

How is everyone coming with invalid click data? AdSense does not show us this do they?


Clicks and earnings on the order of 100 times what is normal for the (seasonal) site this time of year. 49% CTR. You know, the little things.

avalon37




msg:4644054
 1:31 am on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the clarification regarding invalid clicks. Often times I see specific numbers mentioned here, but really it's just people estimating it appears. Helps as I was, and I'm sure others were, confused.

webcentric




msg:4644059
 1:47 am on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

Wow, it must be a mess at Google today. I've only been using Adsense for a year so I can't say how common this is but I have not seen it at this level before. Does anyone have any deeper information on what's happening? Is it an attack of sorts that Google has not been able to rein in?


You'll get a lot of conspiracy theories with a question like this but my observations almost always indicate that Google is rolling out new features when this happens. When rolling out new reporting systems, it is common to disconnect live data sources while the upgrade is in progress. What normally follows, is batch processing (often generalized here as a click dump) that seems to take place any time from a few hours to a few days or more later. When a system normally processes massive amounts of data on a schedule and that schedule is disrupted, it can take awhile for the batch process to be run on the now larger than normal data stores. Yes, this is still a guess but it's a guess made by someone who has worked with databases for years and who has also observed that these major delays almost always preclude the roll-out of some new set of features. It should also be noted that Adsense is not a closed system. It is tied to Google Analytics (for one) so just because you don't see a new feature in Adsense doesn't mean that Adsense reporting wasn't effected by a roll-out in another system.

webcentric




msg:4644071
 2:27 am on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

And since I've been writing Stored Procedures all day and am in a sort of zone, here's some more on the subject.

Data collection and data reporting are different processes. When some see a breakdown in reporting, then the natural inclination is to believe that data collection has stopped too. Given that we can only see the reporting side, and batch processing could take days to catch up. It's very difficult to draw a conclusion that there has been a disruption in the collection process at Google. I often see people here complaining that their daily stats never recovered only to see them report an unusually high day within a day or two. I will add that lack of transparency on the data collection side provides webmaster's with plenty of ammunition where conspiracy theories are concerned.

It's fairly easy to add new data items to an existing system without disrupting established data collection process. When integrating that new data into an existing reporting interface though, you have to take the old interface down (or shut it off temporarily in many cases). This is what I think causes the Red Bar in many cases. Reporting may also involve new algorithms which may have to crunch historical data before getting to today's data.

These processes and many other possibilities can easily explain delays in reporting without leading to the conclusion that the whole system has stopped working. When ads stop showing up on your site, then there's a definite problem with ad serving but the data collection may still be working perfectly (there's just nothing to collect).

It's easy to think about all the ways you might be getting shafted when the systems stops reporting temporarily but a lot of what is published in this thread is circumstantial at best and presented with little regard for a great many fundamental factors or surrounding circumstances. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong in their observations but statements like "I never recovered" or "I had x number of invalid clicks" (absent any solid evidence) are not proof of anything except maybe to the person who said it. There are just too many variables is this game to be drawing conclusions from statements that lack little or no contextual detail or even a decent explanation of how the conclusion was arrived at.

webcentric




msg:4644090
 4:07 am on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

Hard to keep track of all the changes in the Adsense interface these days but it does look like some new reporting features rolled out. I could just be noticing them for the first time but things look different at first blush.

SnowLeppard




msg:4644138
 8:54 am on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

Thank God(ggle) I am up 65% vs same day last week! Was more until $3 disappeared after the closing bell. Here's hoping it will be a trend!

spreporter




msg:4644139
 9:12 am on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

whats going on: 1 page view 3 dozen clicks! early this morning, or someone is clicking like mad my adds or is a matter of the recent problem with adsense ?
Any ideas?

avalon37




msg:4644182
 12:43 pm on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

Yesterday was a disaster. Low clicks, low cpc's.

netmeg




msg:4644215
 1:39 pm on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

Ok this is bizarre. My AdSense sites have no Analytics data for yesterday. They have data for *today* but not yesterday. And my non-AdSense sites have all their Analytics data. Something very weird is going on.

webcentric




msg:4644226
 2:13 pm on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

My AdSense sites have no Analytics data for yesterday.


Did someone mention that the two are connected? And can you not see that something rolled out yesterday?

Something very weird is going on.


What you call weird, I call normal. I don't use GA so gladly don't have your problem.

MrDC




msg:4644227
 2:15 pm on Feb 11, 2014 (gmt 0)

You'll get a lot of conspiracy theories with a question like this but my observations almost always indicate that Google is rolling out new features when this happens.


Thanks, I'm hoping that's the case. It's much more optimistic than what I was thinking. As I mentioned in another thread, in half a day, I received a thousand clicks to an ad unit that was completely removed from the page. Probably not delayed reporting but certainly could of been a result of some disruption from updating the system. I'd prefer to think that over some massive bot attack. I don't think any of us that contacted Google have heard anything back, so I guess we'll just continue to speculate.

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