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Msg#: 4637497 posted 11:27 pm on Jan 14, 2014 (gmt 0)

I have a website where I list movies by common themes and calculate wich movies are similiar to eachother. My comparisation algorithm is something I worked on for more than 2 years, it is pretty unique and gives good results. There is a market for people who are looking for movies that are similar to one they know, and I'm certain my information is usefull to them.

I use covers-images and short movie-descriptions on my site that come from the api of themoviedb.org. Obviously, some of that content is not going to be very original. If I google search some of the sentences that come from the api then I can sometimes find them on dozens of sites, including the likes of imdb and other major movie sites. I was never bothered by that because there are not a hundred ways to describe a movie in 50-75 words and often the lines comes straight from the movie studios. But after 2 years of using their service, Adsense now suddenly thinks it is a problem. My account is still active, but my ads for this site have been disabled. I tried to explain them I'm not just scraping data from other sites, that I'm really doing something unique and usefull with it. So far I had no respons from adsense yet, but I don't think there will be much room for discussion.

So I would like to have your advice in reducing the damage. Some questions that I have:

1) if I remove the api-text-content and only show images, names of movies, years of release, names of actors and directors, and a list of relevant keywords associated with those movies, would Adsense still think this is a usefull (and now original) website ? I'm afraid they would complain of 'no content' in that case.

2) If I start a new website with the same content, but I manually rewrite the text lines I recieve from the api to something original, would I stand a chance to maintain my adsense account and show ads on my new site ? I was never totally satisfied with my domain name choice, so this is the moment to switch, as hard as that may be.

3) If I rewrite some pages to make them truly original and show adsense ads there, and keep other pages like they were but without putting any adsense code on them ... would that be a problem for google ? I guess that 90% of my adsense income is from 10% of my pages, so it's doable to rewrite that content myself and save a lot of the income without rewriting everything. Will google complain if non-adsense pages are not totally unique according to them ?








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graeme_p

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Msg#: 4637497 posted 5:41 am on Jan 15, 2014 (gmt 0)

Your site is a web app, Google are applying rules that make sense for a content site.

I am pretty sure 1) will not work.

What about the other options:

4) Use another ad network
5) Affiliate sales - it seems well suited to it as after finding something they want to watch visitors need to get it.
6) Direct ad sales. You have a nice niche audience.

ember

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Msg#: 4637497 posted 6:43 am on Jan 15, 2014 (gmt 0)

I think if your ads have been disabled on a site, then that site is toast as far as Adsense is concerned. Pushing the envelope by just showing images could get your account banned. I don't know what they think of non-original content pages without adsense on them, but I wouldn't test it. Your best bet is get a new domain and write orignal content. If you are copying content from other sites such as themoviedb.org without permission, then you are violating copyright law, and losing your adsense account could be the least of your problems.

jpch



 
Msg#: 4637497 posted 2:31 pm on Jan 15, 2014 (gmt 0)

I think if your ads have been disabled on a site, then that site is toast as far as Adsense is concerned.


It will depend on the human review. Many times ads are disabled because the Google Robot detected something it didn't like. They may or may not be restored upon review by a human. Speaking from personal experience here.

Option 2 would be safest way forward IMO followed by Option 3. If you're banned then Options 4-6 that graeme_p outlined are all viable...some might even be good to implement now to diversify your AdSense income assuming ads are restored.

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4637497 posted 7:36 am on Jan 17, 2014 (gmt 0)

@ember, if you looked at themoviedb.org you can see that they provide an API for reusing their content and have a procedure for providing permission for re-use.

swa66

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Msg#: 4637497 posted 3:34 pm on Jan 17, 2014 (gmt 0)

Affiliate sales sounds like the smart way to go: even a plain amazon text link to the DVD will get you more than adsense I think.

IT all depends a bit on your visitors: how do you get them ? by accident from search engines - or are they really using the "application" that is your website to find other movies than those they started with. If it's indeed the latter: sell them the DVD of the new movie they found, point them to a (legal) download of the movie (e.g. iTunes), ...

To add unique content: get your users to review movies, review the reviews and publish them too if they are indeed unique and not cut&pasted. More work, but you add "meat" for the search engines.

swa66

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Msg#: 4637497 posted 3:34 pm on Jan 17, 2014 (gmt 0)

dupe - sorry

ember

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Msg#: 4637497 posted 4:43 pm on Jan 17, 2014 (gmt 0)

if you looked at themoviedb.org you can see that they provide an API for reusing their content and have a procedure for providing permission for re-use.


Then that is a different story.

bwnbwn

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Msg#: 4637497 posted 6:40 pm on Jan 17, 2014 (gmt 0)

if you change domains this isn't going to change a thing unless you become a new person, business, IP address and so forth.
I would look really hard at your statement.
I guess that 90% of my adsense income is from 10% of my pages
and follow through with it. Take adsense out of the other 90% and work the 10% you make the money from, then send it your explanation what you did and let this be reviewed.
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