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October 2013 AdSense Earnings and Observations
Haunting Tales of AdSense That Would Spook Any Webmaster!
JCKline




msg:4614051
 6:08 pm on Oct 1, 2013 (gmt 0)

Good bye September! What will October bring? Ups, downs, and everything in-between...

 

ember




msg:4617897
 11:02 pm on Oct 19, 2013 (gmt 0)

adsense look at my sites and learn from me


because I contribute the largest mathematical contribution to the plex


Ego much?

Lame_Wolf




msg:4617899
 11:17 pm on Oct 19, 2013 (gmt 0)

Ego much?
And delusional. Not to mention that nothing he has said so far is based on any facts... just opinions.
SevenCubed




msg:4617907
 1:47 am on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

I have an RPM of over $100 dollars

I have you beat.

I think we all have a bit of ego in us (including me). Let's give the new member the benefit of the doubt because a dozen posts cannot provide a full personality profile.

When someone is passionate or convinced about something they can be more bold and outspoken without necessarily being egotistical. An absence of tone of expression makes it more difficult to figure out.

We never know what a new member may or may not struggle with either. As an example if you ever listen to an autistic person talking about there experiences they often elevate themselves yet they are among the most humble individuals among us. That misconception is due to their thought patterns taking complex filtering routes to verbally express themselves. Some can manage it better than others.

By no means am I implying that the new member has something wrong! We just need to realize that collectively, forum wide, we think and express ourselves differently.

I know I made a mistake here at some point by assuming netmeg was extroverted based on her "matter of fact" presentations of which she corrected me. Then I was able to mentally add a tone of expression to her writings and thereafter was more inclined to allow myself to try to learn something from what she was saying. (Sorry to put you on the spot, luv ya nutmeg :p)

Anyway this is all way off topic but I just felt it was important to inject. Patience is the key, peace.

SevenCubed




msg:4617912
 2:37 am on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

And delusional.

Somebody looking for me?

Turvey




msg:4617945
 2:03 pm on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

When I get paid next Friday I would like to pay subs and subscribe to this forum. Would that be possible? I feel I have alot work on my hands with you lot to get you all in the real world of adsense and how it really operates. I am however prepared to help members with my delusional mind.

Alexander Graham Bell quoted: "“Leave the beaten track behind occasionally and dive into the woods. Every time you do, you will be certain to find something you have never seen before.”

Play_Bach




msg:4617966
 5:59 pm on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Mr. T - Remember what Willy Wonka said, "It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You stole fizzy lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and sterilized, so you get nothing! You lose! Good day, sir! "

nomis5




msg:4617971
 7:40 pm on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

The general population of adsense publishers are basically numpties with a pathetic blog


I take great exception to that, not only because you have no statistical evidence for it but also because you obviously put yourself on a higher pedestal compared to the general population of adsense publishers.

I don't care how short or long you have been on this forum, that remark is just insulting.

Play_Bach




msg:4617989
 8:40 pm on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

> that remark is just insulting.

Agreed. Unfortunately, Paul doesn't seem to care whom he insults. Problem with that approach is eventually you step on the wrong toes. So Mr. T, here's another quote for you.

"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

Even though ASA hasn't been around for ages doesn't mean somebody from Google isn't still watching this board and taking notes.

Turvey




msg:4617990
 8:50 pm on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Play Bach what is wrong? I have only had my opinion and i'm entitled to an opinion, after watching this thread for a couple of years I do actually feel the forum is anti-google. I joined to tell people that google are not that bad. Also Play Bach you have breached the data protection act 1998 in the UK. I have not revealed my first name in this forum but you keep revealing it to everyone.

Lame_Wolf




msg:4617996
 9:18 pm on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Also Play Bach you have breached the data protection act 1998 in the UK. I have not revealed my first name in this forum but you keep revealing it to everyone.


No he hasn't. For one, to breach it, he has to sign the DPA. Secondly, you are not identifiable by first name alone. You are not the only person in here with that name.

Turvey




msg:4617999
 9:32 pm on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

My forum name is Turvey and thats how I want to be addressed, looking into my personal data upon my application and using it in public without my permission is wrong and I ask the moderators to delete any posts with my first name in.

Lame_Wolf




msg:4618001
 9:59 pm on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

My forum name is Turvey and thats how I want to be addressed, looking into my personal data upon my application and using it in public without my permission is wrong and I ask the moderators to delete any posts with my first name in.

Play_Bach is not employed or works for WebmasterWorld, and is not privy to your personal info.

I agree it was wrong for Play_Bach to mention your first name without permission, but a breach of the DPA, it isn't.

Best way to contact a mod, is to report it via "report msg" and hopefully they will clear up this thread and get it back on-topic.

ember




msg:4618003
 10:24 pm on Oct 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

they will clear up this thread


Hear, hear. I, for one, regret taking the bait and squabbling with Turvey. He is certainly entitled to his opinion, as are we all, but I think what he really wants may just be attention.

webcentric




msg:4618026
 3:01 am on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

There are some in here that would settle for a civil, open and productive conversation. Demonizing is bad enough. Throwing people's names around is a profound breach of etiquette at the very least. And from people who call themselves "professional." WTF! Ember is right, "they" will clean up this mess and if it doesn't get cleaned up, it'll sink into obscurity at the end of the month. But there's no forgetting the a load of c**p I just read. Oh, ad elitist, self-centered, self-aggrandizing and hogwash to the list of descriptors for this thread.

Actually, I think it should all stay so that people can consider the source when evaluating other people's comments.

Play_Bach




msg:4618028
 3:43 am on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

Sorry webcentric. I guess I didn't think I was "breaching" anything or "throwing people's names around" seeing as Turvey was already voluntarily using his name as his handle, right? But if that's the case, then by all means mods, please redact. My apologies to the board for any misunderstanding.

SteveKuato




msg:4618046
 5:56 am on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

Can the people having the off-topic conversation please start a new thread?

This topic is for October 2013 AdSense Earnings discussion.

Lame_Wolf




msg:4618063
 7:09 am on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

Ember is right, "they" will clean up this mess
It was I that said it, not Ember.
Frost_Angel




msg:4618141
 4:05 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

Yikes.... this conversation has gotten so weird -- I hope I'm still on the right forum. LOL

Anyhooooo

I did a little experiment... I shut off internet based ads, no third party ads and then required ad moderation. I only run text based ads BTW.

Wow -- it hurt.

I allowed it to run like this for a month, as painful as it was.

Recently, I took the ad moderation off, opened up the internet based ads again, I am accepting all third party ads and switch all units to text and images. My earnings doubled - but it's only been two weeks.

The only one I have messed with is this one: "Social ads - show +1 related features and social annotations in ads"

Anyone played around with that?

BTW -- I have used adsense since it's inception. I'm not a newb -- but I'm also not hardcore. Just trying to share my experience.

Frost_Angel




msg:4618145
 4:05 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

Yikes.... this conversation has gotten so weird -- I hope I'm still on the right forum. LOL

Anyhooooo

I did a little experiment... I shut off internet based ads, no third party ads and then required ad moderation. I only run text based ads BTW.

Wow -- it hurt.

I allowed it to run like this for a month, as painful as it was.

Recently, I took the ad moderation off, opened up the internet based ads again, I am accepting all third party ads and switch all units to text and images. My earnings doubled - but it's only been two weeks.

The only one I have messed with is this one: "Social ads - show +1 related features and social annotations in ads"

Anyone played around with that?

BTW -- I have used adsense since it's inception. I'm not a newb -- but I'm also not hardcore. Just trying to share my experience.

ember




msg:4618147
 4:23 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

I've found that generally Google knows what it is doing (not always but most of the time). They have way more experience and data than I ever will. They say to let everything run because it will increase competition among advertisers and increase bids and my revenue. That concept works for me. When I've tried to be clever by turning off image ads or enhanced ads or whatever, my earnings suffer.

Lame_Wolf




msg:4618152
 4:31 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

IIRC, we do not get paid for Social ads.
I have had them turned off since they started, so I can't help you there.

Frost_Angel




msg:4618158
 4:40 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

OH gosh - we don't get paid for the social ads? I will for sure not bother with it then. Thank you.

Lame_Wolf




msg:4618163
 4:49 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

No. However, the +1 button may increase the overall CTR of ads, since +1 annotations will show users which of their friends recommend that URL. This helps to fight banner blindness. +1 interactions also help AdSense to display more relevant ads to a user’s friends, causing CPMs to rise over time.

Frost_Angel




msg:4618164
 4:52 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

Hmmmmmm - that's definitely something to think about then. Thank you Lame_Wolf. I might just try it for the month of November and see what happens. I guess the only real way to know for sure :-)

Lame_Wolf




msg:4618165
 4:59 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

I couldn't give a URL, but if you click on the ? next to where it says "Social ads – show +1 related features and social annotations in ads" a pop-up will appear. In that pop-up is a link which gives a lot more info than what I gave.

explorador




msg:4618170
 5:35 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

The posts on this thread are so out of context they seem Google Adsense Ads.

Back on topic with the title: today is slow, perhaps stuck because only 4 clicks have been repoted and it's noon.

RedBar




msg:4618173
 6:03 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

today is slow


My PVs are fine however so far I have had an extremely low click volume therefore my CTR looks way out of whack, my EPC average is also on the very low side but that could easily be that I have only registered very few clicks from the US so far.

JCKline




msg:4618236
 11:30 pm on Oct 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

This month has been so bad, it's looking like the my first month with AdSense 10 years ago! If not YouTube earnings, I wouldn't make the monthly payout threshold. PERPLEXED

webcentric




msg:4618268
 2:54 am on Oct 22, 2013 (gmt 0)

It was I that said it, not Ember.


My bad! Ember was the quoter, you're right. Not light reading through that section.

explorador




msg:4618285
 5:07 am on Oct 22, 2013 (gmt 0)

JCKline sorry to hear that, it sucks. This month has been weird, not looking so good here, whole 2013 has been weird but there are worst stories.

I've been thinking on adding Adsense to websites that have been there waiting for it, I'm curious about the impact nowadays.

MHes




msg:4618324
 9:41 am on Oct 22, 2013 (gmt 0)

As reported earlier in this thread, I was getting around $20 per day with 1500 visits per day using Bing.

Putting Adsense on seems to be a complete waste of time....$0.70 from only 1 click in 24hrs. Targeting is off theme and I suspect Google shows ads based on the Users history rather than the page content in order to improve the advertisers experience rather than the publisher. This will always result in a very poor CTR. I have always found that if your site is about widgets and even if you advertise "free money", getting people to move off theme is very difficult. The few that do will be very high quality leads..... Great for the advertiser. With Bing you can control the theme of the ads and thus the far higher CTR..... Great for the Publisher.

The next experiment I have done is to simply put up a Custom Search Box. Out of around 1500 visits, despite putting the Box in their faces with the query pre installed, only 120 people used it, this produced 44 clicks and $2.
The CTR is good but few people are interested in using another search box, they would rather return to their original Google search. The ads return was only about 5 cents per click.

I accept these are brief and crude experiments, but initial findings make me wonder if continuing with adsense is worth it? From our experience, a busy site of around 20,000 uniques per day can easily make $300 with Bing, along with other revenue streams topping that total up.

Unless, by showing Bing ads, Google reduces your organic rankings, then there seems little incentive to use Adsense. The main reasons seem to be:
1) Google, understandably, puts the advertiser first and thus CTR is poor.
2) I still think Adsense presentation is so familiar that people automatically ignore it. I seem to remember from many years ago that only 10% of users click a sponsored ad on the google search pages. Most people don't trust the ads to be high quality as they are 'bought'. Users seem to have always preferred the organic results, as those sites are perceived to have 'earn't their ranking'.

Am I missing something?

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