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When Adsense is used on pirate content.
Sites full of piracy outranking me for my own content
raseone




msg:4599000
 5:11 am on Aug 3, 2013 (gmt 0)

I have a recurring issue with Google and Adsense regarding the response to my DMCA orders & reports to the Adsense team.

My site has never recovered from the 2011 hit. Since then I am ranked around 9 or 10 for my critical keywords & most of the top slots are filled by sites that are stealing the content from my website & pirating my original fonts & artwork.

These pirates and Google have been drinking my milkshake for over 2 years now, making steady money from my material & hanging me out to dry. When thousands of sites pirate your material it is very difficult to police the entire internet to try to keep the piracy at bay & maintain the value of your hard work. I do what I can in this regard however it's an impossible battle when combined with the fact the Google organic search gives the pirate sites the whole first page. Piracy of my material is also wide spread on youtube generating even more money for Google & cutting even further into the value of my life's work.

Both Google search & Adsense teams tend to reject or ignore about half of my requests to take action. A number of pages previously de-indexed return to life later, still funded by Adsense, still ranking. A number of sites I've reported in the past are most definitely serial abusers & yet they're still able to maintain Adsense sponsorship & ranking.

Doe's anyone have any experience in actually dealing with the Adsense team regarding piracy? At what point does Google's funding & enabling of Piracy like this become willful or actionable? Has anyone even tried? I'm not Viacom or Warner but suddenly I can understand their position.

 

artefaqs




msg:4600409
 9:38 pm on Aug 8, 2013 (gmt 0)

If Google was serious about infringement it could do one very simple thing:

Make it much harder for fly-by-night companies in third world nations to sign up for AdSense.

It's evident that Google's current vetting process isn't working. Google is only encouraging scammers to keep on scamming.

Or it could just go thermonuclear and cancel every AdSense account in Africa, India, Russia, and China. That would wipe out 95% of the problem overnight.

netmeg




msg:4600417
 10:00 pm on Aug 8, 2013 (gmt 0)

Oh yea, that's gonna happen. Not.

FWIW the worst content thieves I deal with are major newspaper and television news websites in the US.

graeme_p




msg:4600475
 4:54 am on Aug 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

@artefaqs, boycotting the entire third world is hardly fair or proportionate.

Of course there are no scrapers in the US, and a scraper would never use a false address!

@netmeg, not just in the US.

incrediBILL




msg:4600476
 4:58 am on Aug 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

If Google was serious about infringement it could do one very simple thing:

Make it much harder for fly-by-night companies in third world nations to sign up for AdSense.


That's not exactly a fair statement as not all scrapers use AdSense nor are all 3rd world webmasters scrapers. There is an intersection of the two groups, but they aren't one in the same in all cases.

Lot's of scrapers just use content to cloak to search engines in order to bring traffic to their sites for any and all keywords, yet the content doesn't show on their pages to you and me which makes it really hard to get rid of them for the novice.

artefaqs




msg:4600621
 1:14 pm on Aug 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

boycotting the entire third world is hardly fair or proportionate


Funny how "Stop scrapers by blocking certain countries" is considered sound advice, but stopping the flow of money to scrapers in those countries isn't. I'm not interested in being "fair" to someone 15,000 miles away when my livelihood is at stake. I'm sorry your neighbor is a scumbag. But life isn't fair.

That's not exactly a fair statement as not all scrapers use AdSense nor are all 3rd world webmasters scrapers. There is an intersection of the two groups, but they aren't one in the same in all cases.


I never stated that there aren't scrapers operating in the United States. But pretending that the majority of them aren't in the third world is silly.

I don't have to kill 100% of the weeds in my lawn to keep it healthy. I just have to get most of them.

netmeg




msg:4600624
 1:45 pm on Aug 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

Regardless of what YOU think, it's a moot point, because it ain't gonna happen.

MarkOly




msg:4600919
 5:26 pm on Aug 10, 2013 (gmt 0)

#2 - This actually suggests that you can escape a Panda penalty by taking the content and displaying it on a new domain, scraping yourself essentially. I'm not saying transfer the content to a new domain and shut down the old here, I am saying fully duplicate the top pages of your site until a) Panda lets go of your old site or b) the new one stops rankings in which case you can copy it again.

Love that idea.

Threads like this are great for somebody like me who's in the planning stages of content writing. I like the idea of making your content more graphics-centric. Most of my competitors have terrible graphics, if not the stock manufacturer photos. I've been spending years honing my Photoshop and photography skills and not putting it to proper use. I can really make this work to my advantage. Set me apart from the competition - plus make my content less prone to pirating.

Thanks!

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