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New favicon images next to text ads
avalon37

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 5:30 pm on Jul 3, 2013 (gmt 0)

Everyone else seeing favicons next to text ads now? Trying to determine if they have anything to do with lower CTR the past few days.

 

netmeg

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 5:37 pm on Jul 3, 2013 (gmt 0)

Nope, not here, and this is my busy period.

rustybrick

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 9:34 pm on Jul 3, 2013 (gmt 0)

pic?

ken_b

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 9:39 pm on Jul 3, 2013 (gmt 0)

Maybe related to this?

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levo

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 1:08 am on Jul 4, 2013 (gmt 0)

They have been testing it for a while now.

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icedowl

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 1:18 am on Jul 4, 2013 (gmt 0)

Just saw them today. Nicely done, small & unobtrusive.

netmeg

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 12:39 pm on Jul 4, 2013 (gmt 0)

So are these a form of Enhanced Text Ads?

levo

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 5:53 pm on Jul 4, 2013 (gmt 0)

So are these a form of Enhanced Text Ads?


No, at least not for now. I've disabled enhanced text ads, but still get them.

netmeg

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 12:33 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

They've made the official announcement, and I'm seeing them on text ads on my sites. Looks like Google is deciding what favicon to use, not the advertisers (which is probably all to the good)

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 2:34 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

I believe these icons were triggering cross scripting warnings in IE 8 browsers. The events started simultaneous to the icon display.

netmeg

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 4:57 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

And here's me without an IE8 browser with which to test it on. Oh well. Someone maybe should alert support.

lexipixel

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 6:33 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

Complete arrogance on Google's part to include these with no opt-out / or opt-in choices. I do not want a bunch of little different colored icons sprinkled all over my pages.

netmeg

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 7:59 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

Add these plus the arrows, and it looks a little desperate.

breeks



 
Msg#: 4589959 posted 8:19 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

Not seeing them with Enhanced text ads off, and hope it stays that way.

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 9:03 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing a slight spike in earnings since the beginning of the week, July 21st. The cross scripting events were reported to me on the 22nd. I added something to my htaccess and couldn't reproduce the event again, so hopefully that's all worked out.

jbayabas

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 9:22 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing it. Good improvement.

MikeNoLastName

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 9:45 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

Interestingly it looks like the spammers have already caught on. I'm seeing some extremely well recognized logos next to totally unheard of domains.

moTi

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 11:18 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

hmm.. i have an ambivalent opinion.

on the one hand, even small changes like that create attention and are indeed capable of increasing ctr, although slightly.

on the other hand, i'm already noticing amateurish designed favicons that leave a bad esthetical impression of the advertiser, but also of my website.

it's like image ads (which i have turned off for this reason among others) on a small scale. that's the drawback of permitting everyone and his dog to advertise directly on their own through google. it means also that mom and pop feel called to do it cheap and take over the creative work on their own - even if they really shouldn't. the result in this case is an overall unprofessional look.

but still i find the idea quite tolerable - relatively decent and won't do that much harm.

JS_Harris

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 11:29 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)

If you see an increase in CTR: Lets hope that if you see an increase in CTR it doesn't lead to lost rankings in Google. It's possible that if this adsense change significantly improves your ad CTR then your visitor metrics will suffer and bounce rate will increase. When that happens it's possible that Google, in turn, lowers the perceived value of your site. For that reason I am extremely unhappy with the less than 24 hour official notice before this was activated, it's just been bumped to the top of the list of things to monitor. Rankings are a fickle thing.

I'm somewhat worried about colorful favicons on dark unit backgrounds since these jump out at you significantly. That and we all know that the adsense team and search team do not work closely together(emails saying add more units leading to lost rankings etc).

Interestingly it looks like the spammers have already caught on. I'm seeing some extremely well recognized logos next to totally unheard of domains.

Actually Google is using the favicon it has associated with the site so if the spam site was using another companies favicon it will display it in advertising. I have a feeling that favicons beside ads will suddenly become a hot topic on a legal front, companies like Amazon, eBay and Microsoft do not appreciate anyone confusing possible customers using their highly copyright logos.

Expect the lawsuits to begin soon enough because of this seemingly minor Google change. Companies take their ad spend and copyrights extremely seriously. I'd expect Google to be inundated with a rash of takedown requests before it escalates. Did they prepare for it?

HowYesNo

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 6:47 pm on Jul 25, 2013 (gmt 0)

it IS possible to turn them off with Enhanced Text Ads

i did that just half an hour ago and they are gone from all of my sites, i'll show you screenshots if you want

try and see

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 11:31 pm on Jul 25, 2013 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing all kinds of favicons, but some are same (identical) in ads from unrelated companies from widely separated geographical areas.

They almost look like the advertisers were shown a set to choose from, "oh look, the widget is nice, let's use that, click, there, that was easy!".
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netmeg

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 12:45 am on Jul 26, 2013 (gmt 0)

They're probably throwing everything in there and testing to see what works.

littlecubpanda



 
Msg#: 4589959 posted 1:33 am on Jul 27, 2013 (gmt 0)

I think they're fantastic and make the TEXT ads looks so much more appealing and professional.

Does that mean this will increase CTR? Who knows.

@ JS Harris My bounce rate is already 90%, so I can't go much higher! I only have a few pages, that's why, but my site remains highly ranked in the SEs. I'm worried I might get "reviewed" at some point and knocked down. But how can they knock someone down if they only have a few pages on their site for visitors to go?

netmeg

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 1:37 am on Jul 27, 2013 (gmt 0)

I am not crazy about them, but CTR is up a bit, and it might be due to that, but hard to say. Wish I could split test em, but I can't work out a way to do that with what they give us.

EditorialGuy

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 6:27 pm on Jul 27, 2013 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing the favicons now. They aren't very pretty: They're squeezed in on the left side of the URL, between the headline and the body text.

The icons are much less noticeable than the arrows in the ads. I can't imagine that they'd have much impact without some white space to make them more visible.

ember

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 7:06 pm on Jul 27, 2013 (gmt 0)

Nice improvement.

JCKline

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 1:43 pm on Jul 28, 2013 (gmt 0)

I find them distracting (not in a good way) and my CTR and eCPM has dropped since they appeared. Coincidence? Probably, but I'm turning inhanced text ads off for a week or so to see.

netmeg

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 4:40 pm on Jul 28, 2013 (gmt 0)

Today I'm seeing two kinds of favicons - some are generic - probly what Google fills in if the company doesn't use a real favicon, and some are the actual favicons from the advertiser's site - for example there's a Chevrolet logo in a Chevy ad, and an official state travel bureau is showing the favicon off their site.

So... if they are grabbing the favicons off sites, I wonder if they are spot checking them for accuracy? What if I used a Chevy logo as the favicon on one of my sites (that has nothing to do with cars, and it would ONLY appear as the favicon) and ran some ads, would it show up next to my ad? If I had time for it, I'd test it. Cause that'd be a hole.

HowYesNo

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 10:45 pm on Jul 30, 2013 (gmt 0)

easy money for the advertisers

1) pay 1c for the click
2) put animated favicon (click me, arrows, #*$! and that stuff)
3) ?
4) profit

EditorialGuy

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Msg#: 4589959 posted 3:09 pm on Jul 31, 2013 (gmt 0)

If they boost CTR (granted, that's a big "if"), what's not to like?

The favicons may not be pretty, but since when have AdSense text ads been anything but ugly?

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