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Changing URL letter with capital Letter shows adsense
saso



 
Msg#: 4564500 posted 3:06 pm on Apr 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I have website with adsense and ads are showing 5-10 minutes and than disappear. Instead of ads, now there is blank space, or Backup ads that we created to fill the space.

-In Google accounts, there is no Crawl bad report, any issue, any red warning at all, any email warning from google.
-In sandbox we reviewed, google is delivering ads without problem for any space we created on our website.
-robots.txt are by the rules
-there is no more than 2 ads per page
-website is asp.net
-we created 2 Test html pages on same server with adsense code included and ads are showing more than month without any problem.?!
-Code for ads is on right place (we tried to remove in another segments of pages, same happening)

If we change only one letter with same capital letter, ads are showing, again 5-10 minutes.
For example
mywebsite name. com/Default.aspx
in
mywebsite name. com/DEFault.aspx
..ads are visible 5-10 minutes.

We didnt tried to insert code in another asp webiste on another server, because we didnt want to get banned from Google.

We received automated messages so far from google that we should check this and that, but nothing happened. Also we are googling for this issue last few weeks, there are only 1-2 threads and those websites are working now with adsense, but administrators dont answered how they solve the problem.

We dont want to remove adsense, but we are out of solution.

Thanks in advance for any help or similar experiences explanations.

p.s.because Site reviews is not allowed here and someone want to know live examples of the website, pls write me message.. Thanks

 

swa66

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Msg#: 4564500 posted 4:54 pm on Apr 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Smells like you might have a "bad word" in your content.

This is how it goes: unknown page on know website: google delivers ad on first virsit to page and google's adsense is scheduled to retrieve the page to check the content and make targeting etc. better than the general topic of the website.

The adsense bot then decides it doesn't fully like the content.

Ads are turned off on that page.


I'd not mess with trying to get ads by changing the URL: you'll get the entire site banned

saso



 
Msg#: 4564500 posted 6:18 pm on Apr 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Hi, thanks for suggestion.
We considered that, but this website is used vehicle ad portal. We approve via admin panel all new vehicle ads and every edited text and as we know there is no bad word that violate Google ToS.
There is no nudity, or any violating content on our website.

Also, fact that google Sandbox is clearly showing ads for our website is most confusing. Google is delivering ads to us, but they are not visible.
And more confusing is that moment that changing of capital letter and vice-versa in URL of page is showing ads for period od 5-10 minutes...
Why that is OK for Google, and they disappear after some time is really unknown.

We are out of ideas.
Also it is very strange that there is almost no other example online that someone got adsense with changing URL letters.

swa66

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Msg#: 4564500 posted 7:51 pm on Apr 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Technically URLs are case sensite outside of the host part. [the host part is case insensive - DNS is just as well]
So http://www.example.com/index.html and http://www.example.com/iNdex.html are two completely different URLs. As far as the world is concerned: they've got nothing to do with one another unless your system links them together to deliver the same content.

"bad content": does not need to violate any ToS. There are a number of words or sentences that have meaning in other languages, in slang, ... that all result in no ads being shown once Google knows they are on your page. Google will not tell us the entire list for obvious reasons (the scammers would love it way too much, would change every so often, ...)

saso



 
Msg#: 4564500 posted 8:09 pm on Apr 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Thank you for the answer, Well, now I understand issue with changing URL letters..
So, Google recognize it as new URL and deliver adsense for just a 5-10 minutes and it stops with same reason like for previous pages.

Even I am not so technically advanced, it seems logical about bad word, but especially on front page we dont have text content just Mark, Models, years, prices..

Also, do you think that if have created blank html page with adsense code included, and placed on same domain and server and adsense is still visible, do you think than, that maybe there is some asp coding issues...?
Because, if there is some bad word issue with adsense, google should not deliver ads even on those blank html pages that I created for test..?

lucy24

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Msg#: 4564500 posted 12:24 am on Apr 14, 2013 (gmt 0)

I had a look at the site and now I've got a question that I can't answer, but someone else must know.

What role does language play? The site in question isn't in English, and its language is not on the (long) list of accept-languages that my browsers send. There's one ad I can definitely see after, ahem, hunting down and changing various AdBlock settings. It's in the same language as the site. I'm waiting to find out about the other ad, which I can't see.

If I, as a site visitor, don't read Hungarian, then obviously it doesn't matter if the page is loaded with naughty words in Hungarian. (Pictures, being language-independent, are different.) This goes double if the site's actual language uses a different script, as this one does.

jbayabas

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Msg#: 4564500 posted 6:39 pm on Apr 14, 2013 (gmt 0)

Let me guess. Your website is new. If it is not more than 3 months old then it is normal to see this problem. Wait a few more months then it will fix by itself. For some reason, the googlebot takes awhile to index new sites.

saso



 
Msg#: 4564500 posted 2:03 am on Apr 15, 2013 (gmt 0)

@jbayabas

Thanks for answer. Yes, you are right, website is new (3 and half months), but I dont think that is a problem.

As I said, few crucial things are that google sandbox says that Google is delivering ads. Than, this website is asp.net with master page, and if there something in the code that stops google ads, thats why maybe I can not view any adsense no mater where I insert adsense code.
From the other side, one more proof that I dont violate google policy is that I created few Test.html pages on same domain and same server and adsense is working more than 48 hours...
Same domain, same server avoid situation that I have some server or firewall settings issue..

Even policy (I saw somewhere) that you should have more than 200 letters to be eligible for adsense showing, its not a case, because on those Test html pages, I don't have a single letter.

So, only one thing is left. Definitely, there is something in the code of this CMS (I am not a programmer, but my programmers can not declare what it is) that prevent google to show adsense. Maybe Facebook or Twitter scripts that we installed..I don't remember that we installed some additional plugins or scripts...

Really out of ideas. If anyone is advanced with asp.net I can provide him with link in pvt to see is there something that I can point to my programmers.

Thank you all.

saso



 
Msg#: 4564500 posted 2:10 am on Apr 15, 2013 (gmt 0)

@lucy24

Thanks for answer. Yes, languages plays very big roles to google adsense, even I am seeing zillions of websites full of google adsense and with languages not approved by adsense. Websites without Privacy terms, money refund policies, Therms of Service etc.
Of course, Google can not check everything with human evaluation, but in general sometimes there are different approaches for some websites that I don't believe that anyone can explain.

Unfortunately, all those websites are very often example to us, when we want to solve something that we think we can, and someone does. And here confusion occurs:)

jbayabas

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Msg#: 4564500 posted 2:05 pm on Apr 15, 2013 (gmt 0)

Believe me Saso. Your site is new which I guessed correctly. This is normal problem. Wait at least 6 months and you won't see this problem.

jbayabas

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Msg#: 4564500 posted 3:17 pm on Apr 15, 2013 (gmt 0)

one other thing Saso. There may be stop words in your header or footer or widgets (comments, links, etc). One way to test IF that is the case, is to create a simple page without a footer, header, and widgets. If the adsense appear for more then 48 hours, then the problem is the stop words.

jpch



 
Msg#: 4564500 posted 4:07 pm on Apr 15, 2013 (gmt 0)

This is normal problem. Wait at least 6 months and you won't see this problem.


This is really bad advice. Don't wait 6 months hoping the issue resolves itself. Continue the work you've begun to find and solve the problem while at the same time adding and maintain content.

I've added new sites over the years and had AdSense ads displaying with 24 hours...never had to wait 6 months for ads to display because it takes awhile for Googlebot to index site.

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Msg#: 4564500 posted 4:26 pm on Apr 15, 2013 (gmt 0)

Right, me too. Over LOTS of sites (and for friends too - wasn't just my account) I suspect a stop word or a technical problem.

jbayabas

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Msg#: 4564500 posted 4:38 pm on Apr 15, 2013 (gmt 0)

@jpch I've added new sites last year and I had the exact same problem as Sosa. I waited 4 months for everything to normalize. Perhaps you're in the US. I'm in Canada. However, the problem could also be stop words in his header, footer or widgets.

swa66

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Msg#: 4564500 posted 7:38 pm on Apr 15, 2013 (gmt 0)

If there really are no "stop"/"bad"/... words in there - which is not easy to determine, there are a few other things that can block ads:

- robots.txt blocking google's adsense mediabot, or other thing that disallows google to get the content on the page

If it were just one URL that had the problem (so kind of the reverse of what you have), I've dealt with that in the past with a domain that had been parked before I got hold of it. It refused to show ads on some URLs, and copying the page to any other URL would show the ads (permanently), just not the one logical name. After contacting Google support they told me they had removed the domain's prior blocking it had from when it was of one the previous owners.

Google has an online troubleshooter for those of us that have trouble with ads not displaying.
https://support.google.com/adsense/bin/static.py?hl=en&ts=2473099&page=ts.cs
Suggest you give it a spin.

saso



 
Msg#: 4564500 posted 10:19 pm on Apr 15, 2013 (gmt 0)

Thank you all for suggestions and link for troubleshooter, it is very helpfull.

Because I am not programmer, I understand html, but not asp, i take very seriously "bad word" issue and I was experimenting today a lot and I think after all that would be the solution. What I have done?

My programmers made one aspx page with master and one without. Because I dont understand how I should delete line by line or changing keyword, than update base and asp, I saved asp page "with master" as html locally, uploaded on server and ads disappear again....
If I delete same page code with Ctrl+A, Delete, and insert just ads, and upload, they remain.

So, yes, there is a Bad word issue, I just should find him.

I started changing part by part, keywords, deleting some lines, and I thing I am very close to find where is the problem.

It is my very big luck that I can make changes very fast and wait 10 minutes for results. I dont think that I should wait long to solve the problem.
It is for sure that something in page code is bothering Google.
My luck is also that Google didnt dump me yet.

But now, I have html page, that I can edit in dream viewer line by line, till I dont get page that will not loose ads after 10 minutes.
I must underline if anyone has similar problem in the future:
-When I change line, keyword etc, I must change name of the every new page, save it, upload and wait 10 minutes.
-Every new uploaded page has ads at the begging, but after short time they disappear.
-I am writing by side every change that I am making, even single letter, and when I get page that will not loose ads, than problem solved and I believe I shougd inform programmers to make that change in Master page, and I will get ads on every page.

I will inform you here what I got and what word was a problem:) I hope very soon.

Thank you

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