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Performing sites versus non performing sites
tonyolm




msg:4448605
 6:48 pm on May 2, 2012 (gmt 0)

If you have lets say 10 sites.

3 sites make 75% of the revenue and the 7 others are hit or miss but are already constructed with some traffic but very very low CTR.

Can those 7 sites negatively effect the 3 other sites that perform well in some way? not SEO wise but what google would pay you per click?

All the sites are on the same adsense ID but completely unrelated domains/topics.

One domain might be based on belly button lint while another domain might be on various road kill.

 

netmeg




msg:4448618
 7:30 pm on May 2, 2012 (gmt 0)

I actually have sites like this, and from my own experience, I don't think it makes a difference. My top paying sites pay really well; the CTR is down but I get higher and higher EPCs every year, even though I have a bunch of "just sit there and percolate till I get around to fixing them up" sites that earn little to nothing unless some external anomaly sends them a blip of heavy traffic for a day or two.

AdSenseGuru4711




msg:4448758
 2:38 am on May 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

Hey Guys,

year there is an impact. NEVER (!) ever put classifieds sites or topic sites with relevant ads together in one AdSense account with community based sites etc... for legal reasons I cannot discuss this issue further here, but google: "smart pricing" and read on it.

@netmeg, if some sites hardly generate any traffic, you are right , if the sites have lets say equal traffic you really wanna be sure one is not dragging the other one down.

netmeg




msg:4448759
 2:52 am on May 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

That is counter to my experience, and I have a lot of sites, of varied traffic and niches since 2005.

koan




msg:4448761
 3:55 am on May 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

for legal reasons I cannot discuss this issue further here


Well, that's strange.

There was never an official answer on this, and I personally never thought it would make any sense at all that sites should influence each other, but Google isn't always completely logical either, especially if they somehow convince themselves that advertisers (the people who finance the whole thing) are at risk in a given situation.

netmeg




msg:4448920
 2:49 pm on May 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

Google is about patterns, and obviously they're going to look for patterns when applying smart pricing.

tonyolm




msg:4448921
 2:54 pm on May 3, 2012 (gmt 0)


Hey Guys,

year there is an impact. NEVER (!) ever put classifieds sites or topic sites with relevant ads together in one AdSense account with community based sites etc... for legal reasons I cannot discuss this issue further here, but google: "smart pricing" and read on it.

@netmeg, if some sites hardly generate any traffic, you are right , if the sites have lets say equal traffic you really wanna be sure one is not dragging the other one down.


A classified ad type site? versus a topic site?

So if you have a site with 50,000 uniques based on toe fungus generating 50 $1 dollar clicks daily and another site with 30,000 uniques basic on circus flea training generating no clicks in the first place that effects the better site if on the same adsense ID? Even though each is under their own domain?

tonyolm




msg:4448931
 3:02 pm on May 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

And right now there are 20 people who just read my post searching... "How to make adsense money with toe fungus" :) 2 people looking up "do circus fleas get toe fungus"..

Sgt_Kickaxe




msg:4449114
 10:31 pm on May 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

but google: "smart pricing" and read on it.

The current #1 Google.com result for 'smart pricing' is [support.google.com...] which, ironically, is returning a 404 page not available error. #2 is a book on Amazon, #3 a blogspot MFA entry, #4 is a utility company in Illinois talking about energy consumption and it goes downhill from there. You have bigger things to worry about with Google right now.

No, those were not personally targeted results, I used google.com/webhp?complete=0&hl=en&pws=0 to search with and I am not logged into Google.

Bing it instead and you're golden with result #3 onwards. #1 and #2 are identical to Google's results. Here is the best result on Google.com, found via Bing.com - [support.google.com...]

What is smart pricing and why does Google use it?

Google’s smart pricing feature is designed to raise advertiser confidence in the AdSense network, which in turn can lead to higher bids on ads that appear on publisher sites. This then benefits the entire advertising ecosystem of publishers, advertisers, and users in the long run.

How does smart pricing tie in to the revenue share I’m paid? Smart pricing doesn't impact the revenue share you’re paid; it affects the amount that advertisers bid to enter each ad auction.

Google is playing on words. The revenue you make is obviously explicitly tied to the amount of advertising dollars being spent on ads that appear on your site. The share, e.g. the split between Google and you, might not change but the earnings sure do and the article is misleading because the answers don't cover the questions.

Apparently someone needs to write a better smart pricing article, or figure out how to get one of the already amazing articles ranked, because those results don't cut the mustard, imo. It would be a start but still not much help in figuring out adsense.

[edited by: Sgt_Kickaxe at 10:51 pm (utc) on May 3, 2012]

Leosghost




msg:4449117
 10:50 pm on May 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

And right now there are 20 people who just read my post searching... "How to make adsense money with toe fungus" :) 2 people looking up "do circus fleas get toe fungus"..

Not forgetting the one writing the downloadable ebook,about "How to make adsense money with toe fungus" and the micro-site with the reeeeeeaaaaallllly long home page, to sell it..for a one time price "with resale rights" for a price of $xx.99 ;-)

Or the other one checking the availability of the domain names "Howtomakeadsensemoneywithtoefungus.com" and "How-to-make-adsense-money-with-toe-fungus.com" ..

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