| 9:21 pm on Dec 19, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|Micro management isn't a bad thing. Having been making my money on the web since 1999, I can't tell you how many times micro-manasgement caught problems in the making. If you wait a week or two or more to see a problem and begin working on a solution you have lost a lot of money before you even realize it. Since huge problems don't resolve overnight, the sooner you get to working on the issue(s) the sooner you resolve them. |
It's not the micro management that is the problem. I think some of us are getting fed up of every fart and burp being reported. I know I am.
I micro manage, but keep the farts and burps to myself. They sort themselves out in time.
| 9:32 pm on Dec 19, 2010 (gmt 0)|
the days are now closer to christmas, but stats is up for 5-6 hours.
terrible week so far but now it seems good now.
I am totally confused.
| 3:28 am on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
If people don't report the farts and bumps, how are trends determined in the early phase of severe changes? Those posts help answer the question "Is it just me, or is this something many others are feeling?".
Things do not always "sort themselves out", unless you take an active role in sorting them out.
Reporting bumps farts and bumps are a very necessary part of the discovery phase in problem solving. When you seek to stifle that, you instigate participation in a negative flow of ideas, blocking knowledge which is counter productive to the concept of this board.
There are plenty of lurkers who come to this board with the fears in their hand, hoping to find answers to their problems. If people don't post their situations, as insignifant as they may turn out to be in the end, who is to know if their problem is an isolated incident or part of an easily explained trend, as in this case?
If you're fed up, why participate in the thread? Let those who are interested in discovering if there is a trend at play bounce their ideas and concerns without ridicule.
| 4:25 am on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Yesterday wound up 50% above average. Today is looking like it will close 20% down - the AdSense roller coaster continues.
| 6:17 am on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Sunday was a pretty bad day. Earnings 60% below average. I've lost close to 65K pages from Google's index in the last 9 days (site:mysite.com). I know when pages start to disappear from site:mysite.com, everything goes to hell after that. I don't pay attention to indexed amount of pages reported under WMT as that's useless in my opinion. The amount reported hasn't changed a bit for close to 8 months and the whole WMT is just a bad joke.
I'm losing a lot of traffic due to this. Earlier I predicted this would happen right about now. The holidays are over in Google's eyes and it is time for Google to shed some weight again from that index in prep. for the new year. Reading other threads here, I see that I'm not alone! Mayday here we come again! :-) Thank God I've prepared for this. I knew all along she was a gold digga after a place to stay in for the holidays! But who knows, maybe things start to get better on the new year.
Get ready to read a lot of whine and dine threads here soon! The end of the world is coming! :-) Keep an eye on the "Google Seo News & Discussion" forum.
| 8:41 am on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|If people don't report the farts and bumps, how are trends determined in the early phase of severe changes? Those posts help answer the question "Is it just me, or is this something many others are feeling?". |
What was it the other day ? someone stating that the stats were stuck and demanded that Google fixed it. I didn't see a flood of other people seeing the stats completely stuck, did you ?
Stats stuck, stats moving i'm up, i'm dowm, sheesh. Lets report something important. Of course someone will be up, and someone will be down. That's adsense.
| 8:48 am on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|If you're fed up, why participate in the thread? |
There are lots of things we do in life that we do not like.
|Let those who are interested in discovering if there is a trend at play bounce their ideas and concerns without ridicule. |
I wasn't ridiculing anyone. I am English and don't beat around the bush. If you have a problem with that, then ignore my messages.
This is a forum, yes ?
a. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.
b. A public meeting place for open discussion.
c. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
2. A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation.
3. A court of law; a tribunal.
I do not see where it says a fourum is a place where everyone has to agree.
You have your view, I have mine.
| 10:39 am on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
During the w/end my CTR increased with 50% ( from 1 digit no to 2 digits no ) but earnings decreased with ~25%-30%
Anyone else experienced this ?
| 11:03 am on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
same her very bad, stuck
| 3:21 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Yes, I did see stats stuck as a matter of fact. I sat at a bit over $17 for hours. The number was so low at first early morning look, it drew my attention enough I was keeping an eye on it. That doesn't happen with my account. The bottom line generally moves so fast I can blink and it has leaped. It was the reason I came to WW to see if there was a trend.
I don't come here to chat people up and argue. I've got better things to do. I come because something is terribly a miss and I want to see if anyone is seeing the same issue. It is the quickest way to determine if I need to do more research, or can just relax. I've seen it go both ways, numerous times.
Otherwise, I'm hard at work doing research and development, charting the stats, looking at positive trends . . . I call it a good business practice and am personally thankful so many come to share their concerns. It certainly has cut down my research time when things become atypical.
| 3:24 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|Anyone else experienced this ? |
Oh yeah, unfortunately it goes with the territory right now, my average EPC for Saturday, Sunday and today so far compared to my December stavafluc is -35.74%.
My guess is that in some industries that have already closed down for Xmas and New Year is that they've lowered bids to a level whereby if there is the possibility of some cheaper advertising, not that many in my industry could do anything about delivering over this period but I do know some sales offices are still open, therefore if cheaper clicks come along they're taking them.
If previous years are any guideline then this week Monday to Thursday will be mediocre, Tuesday to Friday next week should see a reasonable bounce and then nothing until Monday 3rd or Tuesday 4th January with a full recovery from Monday 10th January.
That's from historical data and we just know how wrong history can be...sometimes.
And I'll bet you this, there will be one day where you say W.T.F.? It'll be either way outta sync, either up or down, with the remainder of the holiday period.
| 3:42 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|Yes, I did see stats stuck as a matter of fact. |
Were these actually stuck, or were parts of it not updating ?
Many of these "stats stuck" posts are not "stuck" in the true meaning of the word.
Much of the time, it is the "estimated earnings" that either do not move, or in dribs and drabs. I look at how many people have been to the site, and I know that I should have earn't more than it says.
Rarely are the stats truely stuck - ie. NO stat is moving. (Page Impressions, Clicks, Page CTR, Page eCPM, Estimated earnings).
May be Google has another algo in place to sort out bad clicks. It has become the norm for the stats (earnings) to be slow during parts of the day. Other times I have seen it update the earnings every 15 minutes or so.
May be it would be more beneficial if people gave their location. THEN these "stats stuck" threads may hold more importance and give a clearer picture.
May be it is the niche too, but not a good idea for everyone to mention what niche they are in.
I look after more than one account, and although I see "sticky stats" it is nearly always in the estimate earnings. The other day I earnt just 4 pence in as many hours. It sorted itself out by the time the day had finished.
If you are pissed off with the way Google does things, you should see the competition.
| 4:15 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Reminiscent of Churchill's quotation about democracy. :) The stats do freeze at certain times of the day and they are often out of synch with local analytics. I think that some of the posters would be in GMT and CET zones and our business days are effectively seven or eight hours ahead of Google HQ which is on Pacific Time (GMT-8), I think.
|If you are pissed off with the way Google does things, you should see the competition. |
| 4:43 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|The stats do freeze at certain times of the day and they are often out of synch with local analytics. |
I see certain part of the stats (earnings) that "freeze" for a while. Normally in the first part of the day, then later on in the evening [GMT]
|I think that some of the posters would be in GMT and CET zones and our business days are effectively seven or eight hours ahead of Google HQ which is on Pacific Time (GMT-8), I think. |
You are correct. In the UK, the "Adsense day" starts at 08.00 GMT
My site is based in the USA although the account is in the UK. 60% of visitors are from the USA.
| 5:29 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|Micro management isn't a bad thing |
Of course not, as long as at least some semblance of the overall picture is maintained. Day to day freaking out, or even worse this hour to hour thing that some people have going, that's not micro-management. Not in this program it's not. That's witch hunting.
I had one of my best days of the year in November. Traffic and CTR was consistent but eCPM went through the friggin' roof. Once upon a time I would have tried to make something out of that, tried to figure it out, tried to understand why 1 day out of 30 can post triple earnings and the other 29 stay in the basement. The sad fact of the matter is that I simply don't have enough information to even guess, much less make an informed decision.
If a bad Tuesday ruins your adsense experience, or record breaking Friday makes you think you're really in the money now.... well, best of luck.
| 5:30 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I think we should re-name these threads:
AdSense Reporting Delay And General Chit Chat About Ups And Downs
AdSense Reporting Delay Plus Current Roller Coaster Antics
A Day In The Life Of AdSense Reporting
| 5:40 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Stats will be delayed sometimes. I have no proof of that, no documentation, no real information as to whether this is true or not. I'd bet a dollar it is though.
This is a global program which, thanks to the gorgs open door policy, has upteen ga-zillion publishers signed up, enrolled, and working feverishly to squeeze dollars out of those clicks.
The bandwidth requirements alone have to be staggering. A couple hours delay every now and then really isn't that hard to believe is it?
| 5:47 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Or the Adsense Hamster Report. Except we're the ones on the wheel.
| 5:51 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
AdSense Updation Confabulation
I bet that gets a few running to their version of a dictionary:-)
| 6:09 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Or call it ARSE : Adsense Related Stat Earnings.
| 6:28 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I'd vote for ARSE.
I like Adsense Hamster Report too.
It's only money people. Presumably you were surviving in some fashion before adsense came along. If you put everything you had into adsense alone to the exception of all else you will definitely make the Hamster Report.
| 6:40 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I'd like to officially volunteer to serve on the Hamster Report editorial committee...
er... wait a minute. No, I wouldn't.
This eggnog's stronger than I thought...
| 6:41 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Very Father Ted. I like it. :)
|Or call it ARSE : Adsense Related Stat Earnings. |
| 6:53 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|Or call it ARSE : Adsense Related Stat Earnings |
Hehehe...or ARSES : Adsense Related Stat Earnings Stuck
| 7:26 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Just had a clicks dump. They'd been fairly frozen for me all day today (from at least 11am onwards), and it seems to have sorted itself out now.
| 7:32 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Hands up for ARSE. <snigger>
Anything more than a 60% drop in earnings will be a large ARSE.
| 7:36 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|They'd been fairly frozen for me all day today (from at least 11am onwards), and it seems to have sorted itself out now. |
And this tells you...
It tells you they can't give you real time numbers and that's all it tells you.
Armed with this information you can conquer the world.
| 7:45 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Woot! My ARSE isn't stuck today! Guys, keep a track of your ARSE, I say, keep experimenting with your ARSE. The more you look into your ARSE, the better are the results.
| 7:56 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
@wyweb: Hmm, seems I've stumbled onto a battlefield.
I was just musing out loud really, didn't realize it was adding fuel to the flames ^^
(Using these metaphors since I've just purchased Bad Company 2: Vietnam, by the way!)
| 8:58 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Well, in my account, my nitch, my country (usa), it's official. Just got a massive click dump, beyond anything I've seen in the past six years. HUGE!
| 9:24 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Ouch, ouch, ouch...I'd be having my best day in ages if it were not for the 50% cut in EPC...argh!