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New Site - Clicks but No Income
sutips




msg:4204578
 3:14 am on Sep 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

I have been with Adsense since 2003 when it started. I have 3 websites, all more or less in the same topic.

I launched a new website last week. I'm happy with the CTR (about 3.5-4%), but despite having clicks, I have zero income. Clicks are less than 100, but enough to make me wonder why I am seeing zero income.

I set this up as a URL channel as well as different channels for each ad format, and all show 0 earnings.

I've been with Adsense long enough to know the rules. Never had any problem with the other sites I have. Never click on my ads, and never tell others about my sites

Since all my sites are on the same topic, I more or less know what to expect in terms of earnings for the ads appearing. The ads on this new site are almost the same as the ads in my other sites

My questions are:

- Is it normal to have a new site and generate clicks but no income?
- Does Google hold off income from a new site until it verifies that the site conforms with their rules?

Anyone see this on their sites? This is my first time to launch a new site in years and I was excited to see its income potential.

 

ken_b




msg:4204580
 3:19 am on Sep 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

Do you use the "Approved Sites" feature in AdSense? If so, and if you have not added this new site to your list that could be the answer.

sutips




msg:4204585
 3:26 am on Sep 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

Geez ... I can't believe my stupidity LOL

Yes, I do have the Allowed Sites feature enabled after several instances of others stealing my content. And yes, I never even thought of adding that site in the Allowed Sites. I completely forgot about that!

Oh well ... two weeks of income down the drain. Not a big loss, but still. Lesson learned

Thanks so much!

Lame_Wolf




msg:4204623
 6:12 am on Sep 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

Don't forget to add the www and non-www URLs. Just to make sure.

Elsmarc




msg:4213559
 2:26 am on Oct 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

If, as you say, you have been using AdSense since 2003 you have had web sites up long enough, and have used AdSense long enough, to know the answer to your own question. Since you have "bought a house, bought luxury cars fully paid, and all my kids go to private schools. I live in DC, which is expensive. And if Google goes down the drain today, I've saved up enough to keep our lifestyles for at least a couple of years, enough to give me time to think of the next steps." you should know the business, including AdSense, pretty well.

sutips




msg:4213563
 2:39 am on Oct 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

Yes I do.

But I only have 2 sites (and 1 dormant that I have to resurrect). One was made in 1998, been with Adsense in 2003. The other in 2005.

I am not in the business of crunching out 1000s of websites. I only have very few -- but I make it the best that I can make it to be. And they're paying off.

So I am out of practice with regards to setting up a new site with Adsense. When I joined Adsense, there was no "Allowed Sites" feature as yet

Any problem with that? You really did not contribute anything new to this discussion, but just want to hunt my posts down. Nothing to keep you busy, eh?

epmaniac




msg:4214212
 8:34 am on Oct 9, 2010 (gmt 0)

i have non www pages all redirected to www

furthermore, i also have 3-4 subdomains and subdomains for multiple language, should i add these to approved sites list too?

Elsmarc




msg:4214216
 8:56 am on Oct 9, 2010 (gmt 0)

So I am out of practice with regards to setting up a new site with Adsense. When I joined Adsense, there was no "Allowed Sites" feature as yet
It's a matter of keeping up with things. I applaud you that you have not had to keep up with AdSense while at the same time having made as much money as you do from AdSense.

Any problem with that?
Nope.
You really did not contribute anything new to this discussion, but just want to hunt my posts down. Nothing to keep you busy, eh?
Nope - just looking through the posts of a very new member here. You make so much money that I'm curious how you do it when you don't keep abreast of such basic stuff.
sutips




msg:4214269
 12:35 pm on Oct 9, 2010 (gmt 0)

I do use the Allowed Sites feature as my main site has been copied several times. And it's a feature that has come in handy to me.

I just never thought that I have to put a new site that I have in it. I thought creating channels for that site will automatically tell Google that the site is mine. Apparently not. I am not a programmer so I never thought of connecting A and B.

Nope - just looking through the posts of a very new member here.


So I have to prove myself first, eh? I have been visiting here since 2002 but I'm not one to really post. I just visit and read occasionally. I just posted when I have this problem two weeks ago when I launched the new site. It was here I learned first that Adsense was launched. I was here when jensense became the first moderator of this adsense forum bec she made the most incredible summaries of Adsense announcements. In fact i was impressed with one user here europeforvisitors that I interviewed him for my main site

And I have to say the welcome I got here was less than pleasant

explorador




msg:4214328
 3:21 pm on Oct 9, 2010 (gmt 0)

I just visit and read occasionally. I just posted when I have this problem two weeks ago when I launched the new site.
...
And I have to say the welcome I got here was less than pleasant

You should hang out more around here, really. People are nice here and usually every new member gets a "welcome to WebmasterWorld... [member name]". But if you read carefully you will notice how depending on the POST itself, a lot of new posters get ignored, I guess it's a two way thing. A lot of them receive a nice "correction" by older members. It's up to us to respect certain etiquette.

Nobody has the obligation to post and contribute content, that includes us too, but I learned so much here that every time I feel I can contribute with something no matter how little, I do it.

Relax.

As for the mistake of not including your site, make sure you read more. You said you read, read more!. I know this guy who was more interested on making money (great potential) and only got his account banned for not reading enough. Is not a fight, read the general advice on how to get better websites and it repeats "post more original content" again and again, so telling you to read more is not a rude thing.

sutips




msg:4214346
 3:59 pm on Oct 9, 2010 (gmt 0)

I know about etiquette and have seen through the years how best to post or not. And even with my very first post above, I think I followed etiquette very clearly

it's just after I posted in response to whether you can earn salary fro
Adsense. -- and I said I am earning very well -- that some took me to task.

I then posted a question about how to raise Ecpm and some seemed offended o angered by the question. They think that I know everything and that the nerve of me to ask such a question. The user above even resurrected this since resolved post from two weeks ago just to taunt me

I was here when Webmasterworld decided to spin off the adsense threads to create it's separate forum. In feb 2003 some members who were in the adsense beta were already taking about it. I was here when folks were all excited that adsense is now out of beta and accepting publishers

I may be new to posting but I am not new to webmasterworld. More importantly I am not new to Adsense. So I may do well with Adsense but I never said that I know everything about it. But apparently some users here think I should

dataguy




msg:4214839
 7:53 pm on Oct 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

Well, welcome to posting on WW, sutips.

I think I keep up with things pretty well. I've been to 5 Google Dances, been to the Googleplex 4 times, I even went on a 'media tour' with Google earlier this year, representing what success with AdSense looks like. I'm also a premium publisher.

Even still, a few months ago I was a few weeks into a new site launch and I was puzzled as to why I was getting clicks and no revenue. I had the same problem as you. It's an easy mistake, even for those of us who rely on AdSense for our primary source of income. I've had people (even one who participated in this thread) say I was the dumbest, most unintelligent person he ever met.

You'll find on WW there are several classes of webmasters which aren't so easy to determine by just reading their posts. What gets me most often is the difference between a webmaster who runs a bunch of little sites and a webmaster who runs one or two large, highly-profitable sites. The "stats stuck" or "CPM crashed today" posts often apply to one group and not the other, and when you report on patterns you see on your site, you will often have your sanity questioned by people who see the opposite and likely have a completely different type of website as you. I think it's human nature: we each look at our own sites day after day and then believe that everyone must have a website exactly like ours.

Sounds like you've been successful with AdSense. You could be a valuable asset in these forums. Hope you stick around.

Lapizuli




msg:4214860
 8:48 pm on Oct 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

@sutips,

Glad your problem is solved; no advice for you about the eCPM thing, as mine isn't in that range, but - hello!

@dataguy,
What gets me most often is the difference between a webmaster who runs a bunch of little sites and a webmaster who runs one or two large, highly-profitable sites.


Yes, the scale of the websites being discussed is always a piece of information I wish we had. I'm a little publisher - I have a few tiny sites - but most of my content is posted on article sites like the one you run! What I say about my AdSense performance means something wildly different from what others say about theirs.

And I don't think it's only broken into two levels - a website with 100 views a day is different from one with 1000 views a day, and that's different from one with 20,000, and that's different from one with 100,000 - at least insofar as the forces that act on it in a statistically significant way (rather long-windedly, I wrote two posts about statistical significance here: [webmasterworld.com...] )

And not just views, either - number of pages, longevity of website, etc.

It'd be nifty to be able to identify in our profiles stuff about our websites that gives people a framework for figuring out the scale and type of website involved to help us better understand trends.

dataguy




msg:4214869
 9:23 pm on Oct 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

Agree completely, Lapizuli. I've been known to drive over 500 miles in one day just to have lunch with someone who runs a site which is similar to mine. It would be great we could more easily match up here on WW. It would really aid in the discussion.

I've even started threads on WW with something like 'This won't apply to you unless your site is like X, Y and Z.' Invariably just a few posts in, I'll get a comment from someone who obviously doesn't have a site like mine and can't understand why that would make a difference.

super70s




msg:4214951
 2:44 am on Oct 11, 2010 (gmt 0)

I have been visiting here since 2002 but I'm not one to really post. I just visit and read occasionally.


It's just the awkward way member classification on this board works. You could be called a "New User" if you'd been around from the very beginning but haven't posted 40 times yet. They should go by the length of your membership instead of the number of posts you make as far as I'm concerned.

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