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jdancing

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 4:46 am on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

I am not big into adsense and kind of stumbled in it when I bought and article site for testing that was making about a dollar a day then out of the blue it started doing quite well with little effort other than trying to make sure only articles submitted are unique content were accepted.

I just happened to log into adsense today and noticed a warning from yesterday about adsense on some adult focused pages.

Google AdSense: You have 3 working days to make changes to your website.
This message was sent from a notification-only email address that does not accept incoming email. Please do not reply to this message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, While reviewing your account, we noticed that you are currently displaying Google ads in a manner that is not compliant with our policies. For instance, we found violations of AdSense policies on pages such as *********Birmingham_Fun:_An evening_with_an_Escort_Girl. Please note that this URL is an example and that the same violations may exist on other pages of your website. As stated in our program policies, AdSense publishers may not display Google ads on pages with adult or mature content. While we understand that it may be challenging to monitor user-generated content, such as comments, on your site, we require publishers to check that the webpages containing their ad code complies with our program policies. Please make any necessary changes to your webpages in the next 72 hours. We also suggest that you take the time to review our program policies (https://www.google.com/adsense/policies) to ensure that all of your other pages are in compliance. Once you update your site, we will automatically detect the changes and ad serving will not be affected. If you choose not to make the changes to your account within the next three days, your account will remain active but you will no longer be able to display ads on the site. Please note, however, that we may disable your account if further violations are found in the future. Thank you for your cooperation. Sincerely, The Google AdSense Team Issue ID# 1000033 ---------------- For more information regarding this warning email, please visit our Help Center: https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=113058.


This site has had maybe 3 or 4% R rated articles for years (as do other article sites) so I never thought much of it and adsense displays default non profit ads on these pages anyway.

This site is template run so removing adsense from specific pages will be difficult and the programming to do it will probably take more then the 2 days I have left. I deleted the sample page they gave me but there are others just the same.

It's odd because I have been working on replacing adsense and running affiliate ads on these type of pages since they get good traffic and don't make adsense money but have not gotten that project yet. I could make much more running a viagra type affiliate ad on these pages instead of adsense and have no problem removing there code if I had the time.

Other then deleting any thing remotely R rated what are my options? We will try to work on a remove adsense feature for certain pages tomorrow but I am not sure it can get done in time. Then I am not sure if we can spot every single article they have a problem with.

I don't want to delete the articles because many get good traffic and could be a gold mine if I get targeted affiliate ads on them but there is no time to do that now.

I could take any questionable page off line but then those page would lose their rankings while we work on a solution.

Maybe I pause adsense on the whole site for a week until things get fixed properly?

Anyway, for you adsense gurus out there, what should my strategy be? It does not look like there is an adsense person I could talk to get thier help working through the problem, and I certainly don't want my adsense turned off. I am in a bit of a bind so any advice would be much appreciated.

 

jdancing

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 5:06 am on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

I am wondering am I allowed to have any adult pages on my site even if they don't have adsense on them - if I want to run adsense on the family friendly pages.

buckworks

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 5:20 am on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

pause adsense on the whole site ... until things get fixed properly


I would strongly recommend that.

jdancing

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 5:31 am on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

The question is, what is the proper fix, unpublishing any questionable article, or just removing adsense from the questionable articles.

Some of the articles run relevant ads like Viagra ones. Do those need to go? Ugh..

koan

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 5:51 am on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

The question is, what is the proper fix, unpublishing any questionable article, or just removing adsense from the questionable articles.


In my opinion, if you want to continue running Adsense, remove all adult material quickly.

If you want to keep it, remove Adsense from that site completely and stick with other programs that accept adult material.

That's the thing with adult stuff, it's all or nothing.

jdancing

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 6:09 am on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

Ok, thanks. I am unpublishing everything adult or casino focused I can find. I am going to move it to an adult content site rather then delete good content.

I looked at some of the biggest article sites and they have all kinds of adult articles. I guess my name got pulled out of the hat. I guess I am lucky I even saw the notice in time.

tobiasr



 
Msg#: 4128593 posted 10:33 am on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

We run a domain stats site where we got these as well because we showed stats on adult domains based on user input (like websiteoutlook). It looks like this alert is programatically triggered, not based on human review.

Actually we missed to act on the alert for three weeks and nothing happened in that time. Having said that I would strongly recommend as well to remove the content (we implemented filters) or not show ads on it.

It would be interesting to know what else triggers automatic alerts...

jdancing

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 2:27 pm on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

Out of 70,000 articles I found a few hundred adult articles and unpublished them. I am wondering if I should leave them 404 or 301 them to the home page. Now I'll probability get a search penalty for bounces because of 401 pages.

It will be interested how much my adsense goes down. Some pages just showed the default non-profit ad, but others shows plenty of relevant ads. Why take the ads if the pages they need to be served on are not allowed?

farmboy

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 3:31 pm on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

I am not big into adsense and kind of stumbled in it when I bought and article site for testing


Out of 70,000 articles...


Sigh.


FarmBoy

Swanny007

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 5:43 pm on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

I would suggest you take AdSense off that site altogether until you've reviewed each of the 70,000 unique, quality articles ;-) It sounds like you're asking for trouble with a site like yours...

jdancing

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 9:11 pm on May 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

I never thought I would be involved in adsense, but when the site started making $50 - $200 per day I was stuck with the program.

My site is a very small fish and has more quality content compared to many of article sites we see come up time after time when I make sure new articles are unique.

Why is 70,000 articles asking for trouble? 500,000 plus articles on some of $2000 a day article sites is common with them adding, and getting indexed, 100s of new articles everyday. If you search through most of these large article sites they have casino, gambling, sex, adult, rx articles galore with adsense all over the place.

I have spent the last day and scrubbed my site of these articles, all in all there were fewer R rated stuff then I thought and most were there from when I bought the site to test another site I was building for a few hundred bucks and left it on auto approve.

Once my site went from an unattended test site that went up and down and host to host as I tested things to actually popping and making real money I started having all new articles reviewed to make sure none were dupe content, each was formatted nicely and real content. It's ironic that my quality checks have cost me traffic and I am getting a warning.

One of the big players in the article business told me he just auto approves everything as soon as it comes in. This has served him well because it's a race to get new content indexed before someone else and about 50% of the time when I do my dupe checks, he already has gotten the article indexed earlier that day.

At this point I don't see any reason to take my adsense off-line as I have done everything I can to meet their TOS. If there are other things I should look to clean up let me know. If I get nicked, oh well, it was my beer money site anyway.

jdancing

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 6:39 pm on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

Update: I removed any articles that may have been borderline adsense TOS violations. I did not get banned, however my click through rate and daily earnings dropped about 25% so some of those 'dirty' articles were serving som nice high paying ads.

On some categories it was a difficult choice as to what to unpublish. In general her is what I unpublish:

* Anything to do with Escorts, call girls
* Mail order bride and most ethic dating articles.
* P***s growth articles
* B****t enhancement articles.
* online pharmacy articles
* Herbal weight loss pills. (not sure if this one was bad)
* Anything regarding better sexual relations

I also redoubled our effort to not allow any article that has a duplicate out there with second and 3rd checks for dupe content. Out of 250 submits a day I am getting around 30 nice original content articles. Not bad for free I guess.

I 410' d all unpublished articles. Now that I am a sparkling clean site, I hope to be rewarded with even better indexing and highly targeted ads as the spider returns each day to find new family friendly content to gobble up.

I saved all the articles I deleted and will be creating a second R rated site where I will put targeted affiliate ads on each articles. The biggest problem will be getting anyone to link to a R rated site. But I'll figure out something.

johnnie

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 10:20 pm on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

How about leaving the articles on, but selectively removing adsense and finding a different means to monetize the content? There's plenty of affiliate programs on the subject...

rajivatre

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 11:53 am on May 15, 2010 (gmt 0)

Yes I will second johnie.
Most probably your URLs of these removed articles are already there in google index.
That wont go away so fast.
So try and remove adsense from those pages and put affiliate links on those pages. This will really help you to make up some of the 25% loss from adsense.

Thanks
Rajiv

koan

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 5:57 pm on May 15, 2010 (gmt 0)

How about leaving the articles on


I don't think Google approves of this type of content on a site with Adsense, even if you don't show theirs ad on these specific pages.

IanCP

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 8:28 pm on May 15, 2010 (gmt 0)

I agree with koan. Stick with your latest game plan and move the "offending" pages to a new dedicated site.

Consider replacing those pages on the original site with a permanent redirect, although I haven't fully thought that through. Too early and not enough coffee yet!

piatkow

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 1:31 pm on May 16, 2010 (gmt 0)

Considering the number of times that I have blocked ads from escort agencies this does rather sound like double standards on Google's part. But then that is par for the course.

Lame_Wolf

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 2:34 pm on May 16, 2010 (gmt 0)

I don't think Google approves of this type of content on a site with Adsense, even if you don't show theirs ad on these specific pages.


I disagree.
I see no harm in having adsense on pages that pass adsense TOS, and not have them on pages that do not pass. I've never seen a site banned for such reasons.

My words are not gospel, but based on years of observations and common sense.

koan

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 11:01 pm on May 16, 2010 (gmt 0)

I see no harm in having adsense on pages that pass adsense TOS, and not have them on pages that do not pass.


On the Google AdSense Program Policies page:

Sites with Google ads may not include or link to:
Pronography, adult or mature content
Gambling or casino-related content
etc


It does say "Sites with Google Ads", not "Pages". You can't even link to those type of sites.

Lame_Wolf

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 2:58 am on May 17, 2010 (gmt 0)

On the Google AdSense Program Policies page:

Sites with Google ads may not include or link to:
Pronography, adult or mature content
Gambling or casino-related content
etc





It does say "Sites with Google Ads", not "Pages". You can't even link to those type of sites.



Not this old chestnut again ?
Do you realise how many sites that would have their account closed for such a "violation" ? Nearly everyone.

So, lets say that I write to you asking for a link exchange. Our niches are related, both white hat, both carry adsense etc. etc. etc.

Do you expect me to go through 1,000,000 pages just to see if you tick every adsense TOS ?And you to do the same to my site ?

And what if your content changes ?
Or if you add pages to your site that now break the TOS ?

Those problems are yours to deal with, not mine.


Anyway, lets get back to the ORIGINAL question which was having your adsense account on your pages that break TOS.

So, if I have a 10,000 page site about Las Vegas. I talk about hotels, places to visit, car hire, cheap deals, food outlets... and put adsense on those pages [because they do not break the TOS].

But on pages about casino's, gambling in general, adult places, etc... I would not put adsense on. I've never seen Google take exception to this.

Same thing if I had a site about Native Americans... I wouldn't have adsense on pages about tobacco shops and casino's.

What if I had a culinary site, can I not had adverts on a page about cleavers and knives ? - Both classed as offensive weapons.

The list goes on...

jdancing

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 6:54 pm on May 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

Sites with Google ads may not include or link to:
Pronography, adult or mature content
Gambling or casino-related content
etc


My initial plan was to build in a switch that would allow me to flip any article from google ads to affiliate ads. But after reading the TOS and getting the warning it seemed pretty clear what I had to do.

What really get's me mad is major article sites with Alexa under 400 continue to serve the type of articles I was forced to take down - with targeted Google Adsense on them and all. I don't mind their TOS as long as everyone has to follow the same rules. Perhaps these sites bring in too much money to have them take down some of their most profitable ads?

A few examples I found when looking at some of the female escort articles and gambling articles on one Article sites with the most Google love:

Date Older Women
Meet A Sexy Mature Woman Tonight 1000s of Local Results. Search Now!
www.*******.com/****


Meet Women Tonight

Find, E-Mail & Meet Join & Hook Up Tonight!
www.*******.com



Create money with betting

The best and unique way on how earn more money with onlin betting
*******.co.uk

Blackjack game guides
Learn the winning Online Casinos system for endless amounts of cash
*********.com


My daily income now is down at around 25% since I am sure some of these R rated sites served up some of the most expensive ads.

wesmaster

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Msg#: 4128593 posted 3:37 am on May 20, 2010 (gmt 0)

I have some experience with this issue. Google canceled AdSense on one of my sites that has user-generated content. They cited words like "boobs" that were entered as (invalid) names of movies. I didn't receive the warning emails (not sure what address they went to) so I had to work to get my site BACK into AdSense after it was banned. Google was helpful once I finally got someone to email me. They were totally OK with me writing code to not show AdSense ads on pages that contained "naughty" words. I made the change, asked for the site to be reviewed, and Google turned AdSense back on.

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