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Kaspersky blocking Adsense ads
Kaspersky blocking Adsense ads
scotland




msg:4067179
 11:01 am on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Kaspersky blocking Adsense ads

Yet again Kaspersky is blocking adsense adverts saying it is a Trojan.JS.Redirectir.ar

No wonder Kaspersky has gone from one of the top internet security products to being at the bottom (based on a recent PC Magazine article).

 

HuskyPup




msg:4067180
 11:03 am on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

No problem with ZASS which has Kaspersky...at the moment!

scotland




msg:4067185
 11:23 am on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

It is happening with Internet Security 2009 version on an older desktop (up to date licence) - it is not happening on Internet Security 2010 version.

map1




msg:4067186
 11:25 am on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

looks like its a serious problem depending how many users use this antivirus, lets see what the reaction will be..(hope very soon)

map1




msg:4067191
 11:37 am on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

looks like much revenue will be lost today unless they make a new update,IMHO this thread should be keep on top.

Lame_Wolf




msg:4067199
 12:00 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

IMHO this thread should be keep on top.

Why ? This isn't the home of Google.

If anything, Google should start legal proceedings with this company for lost revenue. It's not the first time Kaspersky have failed to test their software.

incrediBILL




msg:4067205
 12:08 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Google should start legal proceedings with this company for lost revenue.

With that logic Google should proceed against all ad blockers as well which deliberately targets Adsense.

Sorry, but Google has no actual right to display AdSense ads in a personal browser, it either displays or it doesn't, they can't force you to see them or force anyone to stop blocking them.

I'm not happy about losing revenue either but I'd also not be happy if corporate giants with deep pockets started making legislation by litigation.

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:4067210
 12:17 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

You saved me some time. I was wondering what was causing that but I had not yet investigated it. It's a PITA!

chrisv1963




msg:4067228
 1:08 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Seeing the same problem here after today's update of Kasperky. I thought this was good antivirus software and now it appears to be junk. This is the very last time I bought a Kasperky license!

chrisv1963




msg:4067229
 1:09 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

"It is happening with Internet Security 2009 version on an older desktop (up to date licence) - it is not happening on Internet Security 2010 version."

I have the 2010 version and it is happening here too.

scotland




msg:4067231
 1:17 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Hi chrisv1963

I have the same sentiments, yet it is good software and I am sure they do not deliberately mess things up. I would rather have the anti-virus and security companies make an error than missing a real virus or trojan. It is very frustrating especially as this Kaspersky error was stopping the rest of the web page to load and there was no dialog to close the "Warning Message".

scotland




msg:4067233
 1:19 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Hi chrisv1963

Yes I have just checked and 2010 is giving the same warning and blocking the advert.

Edge




msg:4067234
 1:25 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Kaspersky blocking Adsense ads

Has anybody communicated this to Kaspersky?

I doubt Kaspersky has it in for Google...

BillyS




msg:4067235
 1:25 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

While I'm very upset about this happening, it just goes to show one of Google's vunerabilities.

richelectron




msg:4067238
 1:30 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Hmm I've seen a notable drop in earnings today... I wonder if this has something to do with it?

pageoneresults




msg:4067239
 1:33 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Yet again Kaspersky is blocking adsense adverts saying it is a Trojan.JS.Redirectir.ar

I'm a little confused as to how this topic made Front Page News at WebmasterWorld.

So what if Kaspersky blocked AdSense? It probably saved you from being infected, yes? I'd surely want my real time security monitoring to block anything that is even remotely associated with malware.

No wonder Kaspersky has gone from one of the top internet security products to being at the bottom (based on a recent PC Magazine article).

You know, if I didn't know any better, I'd think this was some sort of smear campaign against Kaspersky. My understanding is that they are one of the leading providers in the area of Internet Security.

How about if I started a topic for each and every Malicious IP that Malwarebytes blocks on my system? I get at least one a day now due to my research which takes me into IP neighborhoods that have been blacklisted and typically cause Internet Security alerts to go off. I can't access an entire IP range due to the sheer volume of malicious activity that is taking place on that IP. Unfortunately any other websites hosted on that same shared IP are now collateral damage.

I'd say you were lucky. Maybe next time Kaspersky will not warn you and guess what?

Malicious Links and Loss of Traffic
[webmasterworld.com...]

Maybe Kaspersky would have saved me from that mess?

HuskyPup




msg:4067243
 1:38 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Hmm I've seen a notable drop in earnings today

Mine look like the usual tardy Monday, everything in-line however definitely slow updation by G.

I've checked Kaspersky across 10 machines here and, fingers crossed, nothing untowards with any of them.

Maybe next time Kaspersky will not warn you and guess what?

Precisely my sentiments...it took a few hours to resolve this last time but they surely did.

Lame_Wolf




msg:4067244
 1:39 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Sorry, but Google has no actual right to display AdSense ads in a personal browser, it either displays or it doesn't, they can't force you to see them or force anyone to stop blocking them.

Firstly, you missed an important part of the message... I started with "If anything" If I said "Google must" then okay.

Who says Google has no actual right to display AdSense in a personal browser ?
That's like saying xyz company has no right to display pictures in a personal browser.

If it were an advert blocker, then that's different. It is doing what it is supposed to do. But Kaspersky were not only blocking adverts (NOT what it is supposed to do) but also stating that the site contains a trojan. That is harmful to every site owner whose site is clean.

incrediBILL




msg:4067249
 1:50 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

If it were an advert blocker, then that's different.

Kaspersky contains an anti-banner feature and it also blocks AdSense.

However, this is a bug and not malicious intent.

I do some anti-virus testing in a link scanner I wrote, to detect possibly infected pages, and basically you look for a simple fingerprint in the javascript that matches the known bad scripts and quite often something that looks very unique will inadvertently flag some code from Yahoo, Google or something else.

However, you would think knowing that they've inadvertently blocked AdSense in the past that at a minimum they would always be testing to see if AdSense works with the next release.

chrisv1963




msg:4067251
 2:01 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

"Has anybody communicated this to Kaspersky?"

I sent them an email and got an automated reply. I have to check their FAQ first and then submit a request and fill all sorts of data that has nothing to do with the problem ... Burocracy instead of instant problem solving.

I give up. This is the second time Kaspersky disappointed me today.

They should realize that this is a huge problem. It will cost me a lot of money and I do not want to support companies that mess with my source of income ... no more Kaspersky licenses for me.
They should check their updates properly before releasing them. This is an unforgivable mistake.

J_RaD




msg:4067254
 2:07 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

i've blocked LOADS of adservers for the fact that someone will start running ads with trojans thru them.

pageoneresults




msg:4067261
 2:19 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

It will cost me a lot of money and I do not want to support companies that mess with my source of income ... no more Kaspersky licenses for me.

Now that you are eliminating Kaspersky from your systems, what will you replace it with? I'm curious.

They should check their updates properly before releasing them. This is an unforgivable mistake.

Personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry. If it is a bug which others state it is, I'll assume someone is fixing it and a new release is forthcoming. Is it really worth all this exposure? Front Page at WebmasterWorld? How about all the false-positives from other top rated security programs? Will they too get Front Page exposure?

I'm not familiar with the history of Kaspersky but I know some really g33ky folks who recommend and use it themselves. I read these topics at WebmasterWorld and now I'm freakin confused again. My Dev recommended Kaspersky. I've asked a few of my peers what they use; Kaspersky. I personally haven't tried it yet. It sounds as though it is something I'd be interested in if it is blocking Trojans from being served to me. I'll take a false-positive any day! :)

HuskyPup




msg:4067271
 2:36 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

I personally haven't tried it yet.

I've been using it on ZASS since it was first ever introduced and I had one problem 2-3 years ago, an annoying bug but it was resolved by reverting to the previous version.

FWIW I recently retired a 4 year old 20,000 hour machine and we decided to test it with malwarebtyes, prevx, spybot and several other products...that machine was squeaky clean and running like the day it was first installed...can't say better than that.

map1




msg:4067280
 2:53 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Do any of you think that apart from the revenue losses, many users that have the Kaspersky antivirus but no idea about adsense code they will think that your pages (mine as well) are infected, this will have repercussions on the respectability of -our, your sites-, many of those users they willl never get back and might even report many pages as malicious ones.
Is not only a matter of loosing revenue both publishers, Google and advertisers, but that ludicrous problem can cause a future credibility problem for our websites.

scotland




msg:4067289
 3:04 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Pageoneresults and others

"You know, if I didn't know any better, I'd think this was some sort of smear campaign against Kaspersky. My understanding is that they are one of the leading providers in the area of Internet Security."

No it is not a smear - I have Kaspersky on 3 machines, I replaced Norton with it just over a year ago and I am reasonably happy with it except when it throws up problems with Adsense and other false negatives.

I missread the article on PC Pro Magazine March issue - it had gone donwn from their top review to 13th join place (out of 15 products). It probably is still one of the best selling products - although if I had not just purchased another years licence I would not be doing so now.

As the magazine article states it is very slow to start when booting up the computer. The magazine also state that they would expect with a few tweaks it could easily regain its position it its reviews.

Sorry about the incorrect statement about its actual position in sales, it was a honest mistake.

netmeg




msg:4067290
 3:05 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Trend Micro used do this from time to time as well - they'd have an update, all AdSense would show as some kind of malware or virus, and then three or four hours later it would be fixed.

by "used to" I mean it happened fairly regularly when I used it; I no longer use Trend Micro so I don't know if it still happens

I absolutely think it merits front page status because users with Kaspersky and AdSense running are going to want to know there's an issue. We may not know *what* the issue yet, but there's obviously *some* issue.

[edited by: netmeg at 3:07 pm (utc) on Jan. 25, 2010]

HuskyPup




msg:4067295
 3:06 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

many of those users they willl never get back and might even report many pages as malicious ones

Possibly however will they actually remember your domain name to avoid, it's very unlikely.

FWIW a couple of weeks ago a friend complained ro me that her site had been flagged by Google. I checked it out and sure as heck it had been compromised.

I downloaded the site replaced the infected page (only the index in this case), advised her hosting company of the hack which they were already working on, a couple of days later advised stopbadware and it was back to a "normal" listing within a few hours.

This is life on The Net, as developers we have to be constantly vigilant and companies such as Kaspersky/Norton/Sophos/etc have their hands full trying to keep us as safe as possible...the odd mistake is inevitable, I'd wager fewer mistakes by them than seemingly lost AdSense data by Google! :-)

Demaestro




msg:4067321
 3:42 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

I just want to point out that anyone not earning money through Google ads may not think this is such a bad thing.

I would take an over zealous anti-virus program over a relaxed one all day... every day.

It sounds silly to hear people complain that something meant to protect them is going above and beyond to do so. Trojans delivered through legitimate ads vendors are real and whatever is happening with Kas here I am sure it was in an effort to protect you from that and nothing more.

StoutFiles




msg:4067324
 3:49 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Doesn't this just prove that Kaspersky works? Yeah, it's awful news for webmasters but people browsing the webs urely don't want to see ads and now don't have to worry about the risk of having them there.

chrisv1963




msg:4067326
 4:03 pm on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

"Doesn't this just prove that Kaspersky works? Yeah, it's awful news for webmasters but people browsing the webs urely don't want to see ads and now don't have to worry about the risk of having them there."

National news sites (millions of visits per day)in my country are affected by this too. Kaspersky users think these sites are infected by a trojan. How long do you think it will take for a journalist to write a juicy piece about the credibility of Kaspersky? At the end Kaspersky will be the big loser.

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