| 4:30 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)|
500 * 2.5% CTR = 12.5 clicks. If we round up to 13 clicks, 1.70 / 13 = ~13 cents per click. This sounds about right.
500 visitors is hardly anything, so you get paid hardly anything. If you want to make more money then that, get more visitors there.
| 5:52 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Depends on the site. I have a fairly small site, get maybe 100 times your visitors per month, which still isn't much, and earn about 500 times what you do. Not a rip off at all, from my point of view.
Certainly I know of no other program from which I could earn so much for so little effort on my part.
| 5:56 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|I'd rather have a clean webpage w/o ads than tricky google adsense |
Well then you know what to do, eh?
| 5:59 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Heck, I get more bots a month than that!
Honestly you need to be getting 500 a day to start earning reasonable money, it is possible on 100 a day in a good paying niche.
How old is the site?
| 6:06 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|But google must be drawing some money from these major companies pass down some peanuts to us |
500 visitors a month will only get you peanuts.
Work on your traffic first. The money will come. And if adsense doesn't work there are other ways to monetize it.
| 8:47 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I agree wyweb!
Many new webmasters think they should start earning lots of money right away.
Just keep adding quality, original content to your site, and it will happen for you. It just takes time and patience. Patience is not my long suit either, but these days with so much competition, it just takes longer to start earning good money than it did back when I started this in 2003.
| 10:09 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)|
500 per month means 16 visitors per day.
You need a lot of more work to get some money. I'll say 500 per day should be your goal right now and then keep going. It also depends on your niche, but 500 per month is too low.
Focus on building a rich content site with original and useful content, then build traffic on that.
| 11:13 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|Focus on building a rich content site with original and useful content, then build traffic on that. |
In every forum I've participated in over the years, even before AdSense came along, that is precisely what newcomers don't want to hear.
It means hard work!
Heck every person I personally know with a web site found it took at least five years to show results from affiliate income. AdSense then just became the cream on the cake.
Now it's the cart before the horse.
| 11:35 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I have to agree with the majority of people who have responded to you in that it is going to take some work on your part. Have you taken the chance to read some of the success stories from others that are on the Adsense site itself.
I don't think Adsense is a rip-off entirely - I say "entirely" because I would like to make more money with it myself but its myself that has to do the work to earn more money with it.
I'm sure that if it were possible to leave a link to your site people would be able to tell you specifically why your site is not earning as much money as you would like.
| 11:44 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|Focus on building a rich content site with original and useful content, then build traffic on that. |
Or be the first on something not original. But it's a bit late for that now (I think).
(I host lyrics and pay the proper authorities to do so. Nothing written by me but still successful as site)
| 1:08 am on Oct 24, 2009 (gmt 0)|
We've all got a love/hate relationship with AdSense because of our ups and downs but I'd never ever describe it as a "rip off".
If you want a poor performer I signed up with an AdSense competitor quite a long while back but never actually did anything because of the dismal reports from others.
Of course they write every so often trying to get me to give them a try and I've never bothered. Today I get another email and; this is true.
"Ian, you're missing out on a fortune. If you had placed our code on your sites we estimate you would have earned annually..."
WAIT FOR IT...
$one and a half AdSense daily income.
I choked on my coffee, it's not a rip-off but it is a sure fire poor performer. Even poor old Kontera blows 'em out of the water on a monthly basis.
Stick with AdSense folks unless you have a good affiliate network that performs better for you.
| 1:23 am on Oct 24, 2009 (gmt 0)|
sydneyus - Adsense is a great program. Work on getting more traffic and see if you still feel the same way later on.
| 2:01 am on Oct 24, 2009 (gmt 0)|
thanks for all your inputs. Yeah i am newbie...
| 5:06 am on Oct 24, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Basically what the others said.
1) Forget about Adsense for now.
2) Get the traffic needed to monetize properly through affiliates.
3) Then entirely forget about Adsense, because at the end you'll give up huge screen real-estate for a program that is un-managable.
(And no, it's not a great program anymore.)
| 11:35 am on Oct 24, 2009 (gmt 0)|
My son has had a tech review site hosted by Blogger for just over a year and he gets 250-400 impressions per day - but only 1 or 2 clicks. Seems very low; at least he's happy to get his first Adsense payment next week but it was a long time in coming.
<quote>I'm sure that if it were possible to leave a link to your site people would be able to tell you specifically why your site is not earning as much money as you would like.</quote>
I'd very much like to know the opinions of my fellow forum members on his site - is posting a link to the it allowed?
| 12:00 pm on Oct 24, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|I'd very much like to know the opinions of my fellow forum members on his site - is posting a link to the it allowed? |
Not allowed. TOS #13
Please do not drop promotional urls, signature files, nor specifics that would lead people to your site. Signing your name is fine, however commercialized posts or resume signatures will be edited. We tend to err on the side of caution to protect the integrity of the system. Affiliate based URLs are not allowed anywhere on the system.
| 12:19 pm on Oct 24, 2009 (gmt 0)|
edit ..in the light of lame wolfs proir post ..mine was a redundant post
| 2:31 pm on Oct 24, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Ah well, thanks for the heads up, better safe than sorry. I still would like to get my son's site diagnostic-ized somehow, somewhere - any ideas would be appreciated :o)
| 6:14 pm on Oct 26, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I am using google adsense since 2006. I have noticed drastic down fall in adsense earnings. I was used to earn 40+ dollars per day with max of 15000 page impressions per day and now with 35000+ page impressions my website is making about 8 to 10 dollars per day. I don't know if google have some impact of global recession or what. If anyone have any idea please let us know...
| 6:38 pm on Oct 26, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Page views are not all equal.
Forum page views
Photo gallery page views
E-commerce page views
News page views
Review page views
How to page views
etc, etc, etc.
They all will probably earn at different rates, even if they were all about the same basic topic.
Then toss in and endless range of topics and it gets even harder to make sense of simple numbers (xx,000 page views).
Talking about visitors per day/month/year isn't much more helpful, if at all, when it comes to understanding an issue. Too many different sources for traffic, too many possible motivations for each visit. etc, etc.
Now toss in the range of page views per visitor and things get real mucky, real fast.
Still, traffic is the key to start with.
No traffic, no clicks, simple.
Lots of traffic, could be anywhere from no clicks to a ton of clicks, depending on the site.
| 7:58 pm on Oct 26, 2009 (gmt 0)|
You're at 0.34 cent per visitor
It's actually not that bad.
Get your visitor level up. Get the 500 visitors in an hour instead of in a month ... and you get 1241 a month.
To be honest: increasing you traffic might be easier if you temporarily turn off your ads.
| 8:23 pm on Oct 26, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Adsense start me paying only 0,01 each click some months ago. With ctr above 5% I got 0,70 cpm.
With 20K page impressions in a day, I got only $15 with about 1000 clicks.
| 3:40 am on Oct 27, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Thanks for all your ideas and thoughts. swa66 I was thinking in the same way to get a clean look of the site until it builds up its reputations and I can catch up all the missed page hits later on...:)
| 6:58 am on Oct 27, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|Honestly you need to be getting 500 a day to start earning reasonable money, it is possible on 100 a day in a good paying niche. |
I teached last year somebody to create a new site with AdSense.
He started June 2008.
Now he is at 14000 visitors a month and a little bit above 500.-EUR a month.
| 7:17 am on Oct 27, 2009 (gmt 0)|
5,000 visitors a day will probably land you somewhere near $60/day US assuming an average niche with average conversion. Of course more (or less) is very possible but don't get fooled into thinking your site will be the exception OR that you will reach this level quickly. MFA sites tend to get smartpriced quickly so work on quality and visitors will come.
I find that visitors from search convert MUCH better even with adsense than visitors from social media or links dropped around the net in blogs and such. Traffic quality matters more than quantity in the long run but you do need both.
| 9:35 am on Nov 7, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Hi, I'd like to understand that better JS_Harris,
are you assuming here that the average CTR is around 1% and the CPC around 1$?
But if you're in a high CPC niche such as Forex trading for instance, aren't things then entirely different? (Even though the competition will be much fiercer )
Also, could someone explain to me what control you have over the type of adsense ads that are displayed on your site?
I feel that sometimes ads that aren't related to the content can be more effective.
| 4:04 pm on Nov 8, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I could make $10 off those 500 visitors. I don't know your niche so I have no idea if you can too. But I would try something other than those annoying flash banners. With some plain old text ads you might make a few more bucks.
| 7:07 pm on Nov 8, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|5,000 visitors a day will probably land you somewhere near $60/day US assuming an average niche with average conversion. |
I wish. I get 15k a day and $60 would be a great day for me.
| 8:08 pm on Nov 8, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I recommend that you don't build a business model around AdSense.
If your website is about door knobs - then write content about door knobs and sell door knobs as well.
One sale might be worth 100 AdSense clicks.
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