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Want to Earn More with AdSense?
The Answer May Lie Outside of the AdSense Forum
martinibuster




msg:3933331
 5:01 am on Jun 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

The AdSense forum has lots of good information but there is a lot of awesome information outside of the AdSense forum that will be useful for AdSense publishers seeking to improve their AdSense income. Many of the issues affecting AdSensers, involve answers found on the other forum categories within WebmasterWorld. I'm going to post links to discussions that may be useful to the AdSene publisher who feels they aren't earning enough and want to improve.

In order for AdSense to work, your site visitors, at least a percentage of them, must be interested in buying things. Learning the basics of earning on the web OUTSIDE of AdSense is important in order to earn significantly INSIDE AdSense. There is NO get rich quick recipe. You can't buy this for twenty dollar or find it on a WAHM site. Study.

Finding profitable niches [webmasterworld.com]

Fuzzy is good [webmasterworld.com]

Optimizing for obscure phrases [webmasterworld.com]

Look into my eyes
[webmasterworld.com...]

Improving content site revenue
[webmasterworld.com...]

Ugly sites sell
[webmasterworld.com...]

Word concepts
[webmasterworld.com...]

Note: A subscription is required for access to the WebmasterWorld Supporters Forums.

[edited by: engine at 10:30 am (utc) on June 15, 2009]
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signor_john




msg:3933897
 11:02 pm on Jun 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

Short URLs aren't the secret of earning more from AdSense (or other revenue sources, for that matter).

celgins




msg:3933899
 11:07 pm on Jun 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

Link development is at the heart of many promotional efforts for increasing readers and rankings.

Very true. About 1.5 years ago, I started using some of Brett's "Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone" tips. I'm not using Google Adsense exclusively, but those tips placed me on page one of the SERPS for a popular keyphrase.

I haven't moved from the top 5 since.

ogletree




msg:3933906
 11:30 pm on Jun 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

signor_john short URL's can improve AdSense. Shorter URL's help you get more links makes your site look less spammy. Both of those things will make you more money.

Digmen1




msg:3933915
 12:03 am on Jun 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Yes, I agree with both subjects in this thread.
The cost of a subscription does seem somewhat high into today's world of low cost internet everything.
If there was an annual donation request (via Paypal?) I would gladly give a small amount of cash. But I too like many others cannot (or will not) stretch to your sub.
Much as I love this site.

signor_john




msg:3933927
 12:44 am on Jun 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

signor_john short URL's can improve AdSense.

There all kinds of little things that can improve sites with or without AdSense. But the real way to prosper from advertising is to concentrate on the fundamentals of publishing: finding the right topic, reaching the right audience, and providing content that will attract both readers and advertisers.

dibbern2




msg:3933934
 12:56 am on Jun 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

I think MB's list is great, so thanks, MB.

One basic component I'd add: spend as much time learning in the Google Search forum as you spend here, or EVEN more.

netchicken1




msg:3934123
 7:49 am on Jun 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Um, I would rather have adverts to cover the costs thanks. Then all content could be accessable for all.

Off topic:
It is not about getting more for a fee
but about helping YOUR/OUR WebmasterWorld to be kept ad free
and sharing in related forum cost.

incrediBILL




msg:3934133
 8:36 am on Jun 16, 2009 (gmt 0)


Um, I would rather have adverts to cover the costs thanks. Then all content could be accessable for all.

Then you get pressure from the advertisers not to speak poorly of them, unveil insecurities, promote SEO techniques, etc.

Then the information becomes censored and useless to everyone.

Sorry, not a good situation for a site that prides itself on the freely flowing information about search engines, PPC programs or other internet technologies.

rajivatre




msg:3934140
 8:58 am on Jun 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Again off topic may be, but this forum is about adsense so why can't it use google adsense for advertising.
That way most of the concerns of incrdiBill can be taken care of.

signor_john




msg:3934372
 2:21 pm on Jun 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Again off topic may be, but this forum is about adsense so why can't it use google adsense for advertising.
That way most of the concerns of incrdiBill can be taken care of.

Probably because few members would click on the ads, either because they're afraid of clicking on any AdSense ads or because--just as likely--they dislike advertising that isn't earning money for them. :-)

IMHO, the fact that Webmaster World has very little advertising (and that most of the advertising is for its own conferences) illustrates an important point: Know your audience, and try to monetize your traffic in a way that will work with that audience. As Martinibuster said at the beginning of this thread, "In order for AdSense to work, your visitors, or at least a percentage of them, must be interested in buying things." Brett Tabke, the owner of Webmaster World, knows that conferences and Webmaster World Supporter Forum subscriptions are more likely to generate income for WW than AdSense ads are, so he doesn't waste his time fiddling with AdSense and complaining that members don't click.

tim222




msg:3934404
 2:52 pm on Jun 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Brett Tabke, the owner of Webmaster World, knows that conferences and Webmaster World Supporter Forum subscriptions are more likely to generate income for WW than AdSense ads are, so he doesn't waste his time fiddling with AdSense and complaining that members don't click.

Well one way they can ramp up the revenue is to somehow increase interest in purchasing a subscription. Maybe they can give people a little insight into the subscription threads in order to entice us into forking out the cash. It's a pretty common advertising trick; I'm not sure why they don't do that around here.

icedowl




msg:3934427
 3:27 pm on Jun 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Has a monthly subscription plan ever been considered? That is one way I actually could swing it, even at $15 per month.

WolfLover




msg:3934465
 4:37 pm on Jun 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

icedowl, that is a great idea. Monthly would be a way for some of us to swing it. Coming up with the 6 months or a year at a time is hard for some of us right now.

I hope payments could be accepted any other way but PayPal. I refuse to use them ever again.

stuartmcdonald




msg:3935601
 12:15 am on Jun 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hat tip to MartiniBuster for an oustanding collection of threads.

Got to admit to being a bit taken aback re the comments on the affordability of the subscription. An annual subscription works out at less than 50 cents a day.

I've found the subscription section to contain a lot less "noise" making it far easier (and faster) to get the answers I'm looking for. What's your time worth?

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