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How long did it take you to reach $1,000 a month?
For those of you that have reached this goal, what amount of time was req'd
Sootah




msg:3930888
 1:28 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

To any of you fellow webmasters that have reached $1,000 a month, how long did it take you? Also, how many articles did you have to have up before you started averaging this?

I've actually reached $1,000 a month twice, but shortly after that my income fell dramatically and then a while later I sold one of my sites (got a decent 16 months worth of income out of the sale :) ) so I'm currently at a very steady $200 per month.

I've been in this game for some time, so I realize that there is no boilerplate generic response to this question, and that every site's income potential is dependent on many different factors; but how long did it take you to reach $1,00 a month? Also, appx how many articles had you produced on your chosen topic?

By my math, I'll need an additional 625 articles to reach my initial $1,000/mo goal. (This is assuming I make the same basic amount of money per article, and that I did all of my averaging correctly.. :) )

 

tim222




msg:3930911
 2:09 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

It's difficult to compare number of articles because that really depends on the topic. However one thing I've noticed that will probably apply to others. You could calculate an average dollar value for each article but it's been my experience that there's one in every ten that outshines the rest. If I could *only* predict in advance which ones will do that, I'd just write those articles :)

Your original question really isn't applicable with my site because it was already eight years old with decent traffic when I started using AdSense.

If you write only two articles a day you'll reach that 625 goal in less than a year. I hope you make it!

signor_john




msg:3930913
 2:11 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

I exceeded that amount in the first couple of weeks. However, I was adding AdSense to an existing site.

As for how many articles I'd written at the time, I don't recall offhand, but in any case some articles earned (and continue to earn) much more than others do. The "long tail" can bring in a lot of traffic and revenue, but the base of that long tail is fatter than the distant tip. :-)

incrediBILL




msg:3930914
 2:11 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Zero articles - 1 week - $1K.

Not all things AdSense on the web revolve around articles ;)

realmaverick




msg:3930922
 2:25 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

incrediBILL is spot on.

Even on an article-centric site, it's not about sheer volume. Research you're niche, find out what people are actually searching for and write and title your posts accordingly. Write quality articles and notify the bloggers to gain inbound links, before long they'll check you site daily and quote you regularly.

All my content is user generated. I really can't remember how long it took to reach 1k first time around.

Sootah




msg:3930935
 3:57 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

If I could *only* predict in advance which ones will do that, I'd just write those articles :)

Hah, I absolutely agree. 10% of my articles generate 90% of my income. The problem as you stated, is that you never really know which of them will be the real breadwinners, and which will never even get a visitor.

I just recently had an article that I wrote over a year ago suddenly skyrocket up the search engine ranks and start bringing in a good amount of traffic, so there's the time-delay factor as well.

I do get some user-generated content in the form of comments on my site; but it's hard to get much else as my site is about computer repair and the like. I could start a forum, but it's s'damn hard to get a forum up and going initially; and I don't like playing the whole "sock puppet*" game to make it look like it has members in order to gain more members.

*Where I man 10-15 profiles myself and make posts, responses, etc all by my lonesome. Perhaps if I had multiple personality disorder this would be more tolerable. :)

Sootah




msg:3930942
 4:14 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Research you're niche, find out what people are actually searching for and write and title your posts accordingly.

Ah, that reminds me of another question I intended on asking: What tools do ya'll use to research search phrases and the like? I've never gone too far out of my way to write an article based around nothing more than a search phrase as that just seems SPAMmy, and drives me nuts when I read a piece written by someone that repeats the same phrase 18 different ways in a paragraph; but there is an obvious benefit to at least looking at what - or more importantly - how people are searching for a topic.

So, throw some tool suggestions my way!

Thanks again,

-Sootah

tim222




msg:3930978
 5:30 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Zero articles - 1 week - $1K.
Not all things AdSense on the web revolve around articles ;)

True, but the word "article" can sometimes be used in the same context as the word "widget" is used to describe a product or service for sale. All of our sites are different but sometimes we need to reduce the objects to some common denominator for the purpose of discussion. An "article" could be used to describe any unit of content that attracts a visitor to the page. I suppose it could be a photo, a free download, or a video.

incrediBILL




msg:3930979
 5:31 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

What tools do ya'll use to research search phrases and the like?

Google's suggestions in their search box is a great starting point because it's a new game with Google pointing visitors at specific keywords.

Used to be you could just use the shotgun approach and sprinkle everything from a niche in your pages and you would get some traffic because people typed in all sorts of stuff.

Not anymore, people got lazy with Google making suggestions and seem to more often than not just pick something off the list these days.

If you don't rank for what's on their suggestions, you're getting the dregs for sure.

[edited by: incrediBILL at 5:31 am (utc) on June 11, 2009]

incrediBILL




msg:3930980
 5:34 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

An "article" could be used to describe any unit of content that attracts a visitor to the page. I suppose it could be a photo, a free download, or a video.

100% user generated content.

I wouldn't consider what I have articles, but it is unique content, it's just I didn't have to write it, I let the membership fill in all the blanks.

acac




msg:3930992
 6:43 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

@incrediBILL
Are you talking about a forum?

As for the original question, I don't remember how long but I was pleased as a punch.

For non-user generated content, article count doesn't always matter. Some articles, often stupid ones, way outshine very well written articles too.

I think it is a long-haul game. Having said that I try new ideas, learned things from people which helped me a lot. And I am just beginning. I probably don't even have 1/10 the revenue of the big guns in this forum.

IanCP




msg:3931017
 7:07 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

How long did it take you to reach $1,000 a month?

26th June, 2003 - 7th July, 2003

Back in those far days of yore, why did my lover AdSense forsake me? I was always true, faithful and loyal.

jetteroheller




msg:3931064
 8:00 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

I started end of September 1996 with the Internet
I had my main domain April 1997

I started AdSense June 5th 2004

My first month beyond $1000 was November 2004

First day beyond $100 March 27th 2005

Just right now, I am struggling again at the $100 a day border because of the economic crisis.

HuskyPup




msg:3931137
 10:56 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Initially I think I received an invitation from Google about the program and as soon as AdSense was announced I put it on a few pages of a very well-established site and earned a few hundred Dollars a month. After reading through some posts at WebmasterWorld I immediately went site wide on all sites and that first part-month brought in $1200 and then upwards from thereon to the UPS club for a while.

Like jetteroheller it's much more difficult these days and if it's a new, widget-niche site then it could be very difficult indeed.

If one person can build a site now without to much sweat and toil that provides a few hundred per month then, IMHO, after this recession it should be well-placed to earn more.

The one proviso would be that there is sufficient global/national widget interest for the subject since some widgets are clearly a PITA!

dailypress




msg:3931233
 2:24 pm on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

a while later I sold one of my sites (got a decent 16 months worth of income out of the sale :)
IMHO I wouldnt sell my domains for less than 3 years worth.

I started the web business in 2005 and am still waiting for that day to come. however, in 2006 I made over 600 bucks the first week when my site showed up first for a term that had become popular once it was published in the news and media. Thats when I got excited about the web business and started expanding my domains and business.

skweb




msg:3931357
 3:48 pm on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Believe it or not when I first tested AdSense on a few pages in 2004, I was surprised that it made like $10 a day. Then we populated all of our websites and within a matter of weeks, it was up to $1,000. It took a bit to reach about $3,000 and we got stuck there for a few months but then G recruited more advertisers in our niches and we grew steadily to bring in about $12K a month now.

pavlovapete




msg:3931728
 2:56 am on Jun 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi Sootah,

a couple of questions first please

how many articles did you have to have

as stated here by others articles are a less optimal metric
how much traffic do you have?
how many pageviews per visitor?
can you see the SERPs where you are ranking - what else is going on in that SERP?

how many search terms are bringing you traffic?
what are they?
how do they change over time?

My suggestion to you is to build out from existing successful pages/ search terms
*plug the search term people found you with into google adwords external keyword tool
*point the google adwords external keyword tool at your pages

10% of my articles generate 90% of my income

what ads are they clicking on?
what ads are shown on your site
are the ads solving problems or something else?

an article that I wrote over a year ago suddenly skyrocket up the search engine ranks

can you learn from this?
why did it happen?

tools do ya'll use to research search phrases

link dropping is not smiled upon here
google adwords external keyword tool is an excellent place to start

that repeats the same phrase 18 different ways

more sophisticated than that nowadays
study "co-occurance" - what groups of words tend to be seen together when discussing topic x?

Cheers

<edit>spelling

anand84




msg:3932572
 8:39 am on Jun 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

I started the web business in 2005 and am still waiting for that day to come.

Oh..that was me..The max I have ever been up to has been $15 days...and that was a couple..Basically, I just don't concentrate on one single idea..I keep changing my website so I should have washed away a thousand different pages down the drain through these years..If only I had them all till now. :(

RonS




msg:3932578
 8:48 am on Jun 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

Check the google cache (search for "site:mydomain.com") or the wayback machine (url is "archive.org") to try to retrieve your older content.

maximillianos




msg:3932622
 11:17 am on Jun 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

We were an established site, so our data may not be relevent. But it still took a few years for us to hit that mark.

Our newest site is about 2 years old and currently makes around $400/month and growing. Someday we would like it to be a 1k earner.

Traffic is really the controlling factor. If you hit it big early, you can hit that mark a lot faster.

signor_john




msg:3932672
 3:01 pm on Jun 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

Traffic is really the controlling factor.

Topic and clickthrough rate can also play a large role. A topic that attracts an average EPC of 25 or 50 cents will rack up money faster (for a given level of traffic) than a topic with an average EPC of a nickel. Just as important, clickthrough rates can vary hugely by type of content and audience: A technically-oriented forum for ASense publishers might get hardly any clicks at all for example, just because forums reputedly suffer more from "ad blindness" than, say, review sites do and TOS-conscious AdSense publishers may be gun-shy about clicking on ads (even ads on other people's sites).

For what it's worth, I'd guess that many name-brand "premium publishers" sites have abysmal AdSense EPCs and CTRs even though they have a lot of traffic. How many people who read about the war in Afghanistan or Iranian election irregularities on a newspaper site are likely to even notice, let alone click on, the AdSense text ads next to those articles? Especially when the ads next to such articles are likely to be irrelevant? (I checked a WaPo article about the Iranian elections a moment ago, and it showed one "Ad by Google": an ad for storage software. Contrast that with, say, an ad for discounted ski widgets next to a ski-widget review at a skiing site.)

nomis5




msg:3932710
 6:08 pm on Jun 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

I agree with signor_john.Traffic is not the key, topic is far more important.

If you looked at my stats and followed the highest traffic pages you would be wasting your time.

My highest earning pages, typically, have 5 - 10% of the traffic of the top five traffic pages. It's good that way as well, because if you look on the net for my sites you can easily find out the high traffic volume pages. But try and find the ones that earn the real income and you can't. Can you?

m0thman




msg:3932785
 10:56 pm on Jun 13, 2009 (gmt 0)


My first month beyond $1000 was November 2004

First day beyond $100 March 27th 2005

Just right now, I am struggling again at the $100 a day border because of the economic crisis.

For me, within a few months of joining AdSense I was on $1000 months and progress was slow for a couple of years then the economic crisis hit and I've been knocked right back.

I was almost at my $100d day mark just before then (last year sometime), although I made a critical site change that damaged my income for a few months. Watch out for them!

Out of interest. I'm running on one site. Do people generally fare better with several?

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