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Two upcoming maintenance periods June 3 and 6 '09
Stats will be slow, but nothing else changes
AdSenseAdvisor




msg:3925179
 11:50 pm on Jun 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Just a heads up that we're going to be undergoing two maintenance sessions this week.

Wednesday, June 3: 3pm - 6pm PDT (GMT -07:00)
Saturday, June 6: 10am - 2:30pm PDT (GMT -07:00)

You'll still be able to log in, ad serving will be normal, and we'll continue to track your earnings, clicks, and impressions. The only issue is a slight reporting delay. As usual, you can read more on the Inside AdSense blog. I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

ASA

 

HuskyPup




msg:3925206
 1:57 am on Jun 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

Ohhhhhhhhhh.......trying to release the clicks?

rocco




msg:3925540
 11:09 am on Jun 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

thanx

dawnstar




msg:3925609
 1:10 pm on Jun 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

Yeeha!
Whatever line of code you've just tweeked I like it, so far best day in a long time!

Oh wait...PDT... you haven't done it yet UK time... Nooooo don't touch nothing!

martinibuster




msg:3925894
 7:42 pm on Jun 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

Right, maintenance doesn't start for another 2.5 hours.

WordsnCollision




msg:3926027
 11:52 pm on Jun 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

Delay in effect - looks like a really bad day so i'm glad i came here earlier :o)

eeek




msg:3926116
 3:53 am on Jun 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

Did something break? Ads are not always showing now.

Lame_Wolf




msg:3926270
 7:59 am on Jun 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

Well, the 1st maintenance didn't do me any favours. Damn.
I hope the 2nd one will... but doubt it.

WordsnCollision




msg:3926378
 10:42 am on Jun 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

Ditto - was cruising along 'til the maintenance and never got a make-up click dump :o(

realmaverick




msg:3926442
 1:07 pm on Jun 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

It's absolutely no coincidence that absolutely EVERY SINGLE publisher has a bad day on maintenance days.

I'd much prefer honesty from Google.

ASA: Just a heads up that we're going to be undergoing another two maintenance sessions this week.
Wednesday, June 3: 3pm - 9pm PDT (GMT -07:00)
Saturday, June 6: 10am - 7:30pm PDT (GMT -07:00)

You'll still be able to log in, ad serving will be sporadic, and we'll not track your earnings, clicks, and impressions. The only other issue is a slight reporting delay. As usual, you can read more on the Inside AdSense blog. I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

coachm




msg:3926559
 3:20 pm on Jun 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

It's absolutely no coincidence that absolutely EVERY SINGLE publisher has a bad day on maintenance days.
I'd much prefer honesty from Google.

Not every single publisher. Not us. We actually did well, but then again, we wait, because we know stats don't mean anything until at least the next day.

I might add that a lot of us are in the "it's not worth the bother" phase in terms of posting about adsense. You believe what you believe, and no amount of posting is going to change your opinion.

So, mostly we don't bother. And we spend time making money and not talking about how all the bad guys are stopping us from making money.

(May revenue. overall up 35% from April).

cgiscripts4u




msg:3926598
 4:04 pm on Jun 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

Could this be why adsense impressions on one of my sites was down 35% yesterday and today I have no impressions on the same site.

realmaverick




msg:3926675
 6:24 pm on Jun 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

So, mostly we don't bother. And we spend time making money and not talking about how all the bad guys are stopping us from making money.

You're right that posting won't change anything. But it does help vent frustration.

But the fact is, many great webmasters are taking blow after blow from Google. Perhaps it's industry specific.

[edited by: martinibuster at 8:36 pm (utc) on June 4, 2009]
[edit reason] Removed off topic comments. [/edit]

londrum




msg:3926738
 8:07 pm on Jun 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

...but we are mad

coachm




msg:3926883
 10:50 pm on Jun 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

But the fact is, many great webmasters are taking blow after blow from Google. Perhaps it's industry specific.

I guess both you and I got "edited", which is fine. Not my forum.

I know many are taking blows. Look, we're at 50% lower than it "was" several years ago. But let's have some clear business oriented discussions and thinking, which is far more constructive.

I've said this many times, but if you are so dependent on adsense income that it really "hurts" that revenue has dropped, you need to consider alternatives, not the least of which is that you (not YOU, but generic you) may not be cut out for having a business.

Many aren't. I would say the majority of adsense users aren't.

I'd also say that if people are concerned about what the lose on a maintenance day, for example, they are already in trouble, and dead in the water, business wise.

My hope is that someone might see what I write and say: "Right, I want to be a business owner, NOT an adsense person." and go about acting like a real business.

The writing has been on the wall for at least 2+ years. If you haven't prepared for these drops, you are in trouble.

That said, I still think adsense is worthwhile. It's important to our business. But it isn't the entire business.

Bad days in adsense are just fluctations. If adsense disappeared tomorrow we'd still be around. How about you?

...that a central issue. When you are dependent on something, it gets scary when it doesn't go your way, and you tend to panic and strike out. (again, generic you). So maybe don't be dependent.

(lest people say there's no alternative, I'll suggest upfront that you get a job, because if you don't see alternatives you don't have a business, and you WILL be dead.

londrum




msg:3927174
 10:29 am on Jun 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

what a load of hokum. the guy is making the observation -- shared by many people -- that earnings sometimes appear to drop on maintainence days. that doesn't mean that he's "not cut out for business". it just means that he's querying his stats.

google doesn't let us query the drop in earnings because they don't share the necessary info. if your impressions, CTR and eCPM drop overnight for no discernable reason at your end, then it is reasonable to suggest that it must have been something at google's end. but that money is lost to us. there is no way that we can even query it.

you argument seems to be that he should just accept it, not talk about it... or go and get another job. what baloney!

WordsnCollision




msg:3927320
 3:59 pm on Jun 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

Back to the main issue of this thread, I'm thinking the June 3 maintenance is actually showing a positive result. Before, i would post a new article and most of my Adsense ads would be about toilets for some odd reason - TOILETS! I didn't start getting content-relevant ads until 8-9 hours after posting. Now the toilet ads are gone and relevant ads are appearing within the hour.
And, I'm having a good day today - coincidence?

coachm




msg:3927842
 2:35 pm on Jun 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

It's absolutely no coincidence that absolutely EVERY SINGLE publisher has a bad day on maintenance days.

This is what I was responding to, and suggesting that if one jumps to conclusions that are clearly wrong as above, one is not well placed to make good business decisions.

No matter.

Have any of you good folks considered that even if maintenance day totals seem lower than other days, that it's because some of the numbers don't get crunched or appear until at least the day after?

Has it ever occured to you that it's quite possible that the reports are not exactly syncronized to days?

So, if you don't have much to do, take a look at the days and the week following each maintenance day, do a statistical analysis over years, and then quit the adsense program, because there's nothing you can do about it.

(actually you could remove ads on maintenance days, couldn't you? You DO have alternatives and backups like any good business?)

acac




msg:3927937
 5:51 pm on Jun 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

> You DO have alternatives and backups like any good business?

You sound serious ;)

honestman




msg:3928000
 9:26 pm on Jun 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

It's absolutely no coincidence that absolutely EVERY SINGLE publisher has a bad day on maintenance days.

That has absolutely not been my experience at all. On the contrary, and even if this was the case, as coachm points out--and which I can confirm having been a database programmer for longer than I care to admit--there are bound to be some short-term bugs and discrepancies. I have not found such a pattern as has been described. In fact, I wonder at the relative consistency in such a complex maintenance operation functioning on such a scale in real time.

There are other issues I have with consistency this past year in terms of dramatic month-to-month drops in CTR on multiple sites (especially when compared to year over year statistical patterns), but this particular complaint does not resonate in my experience thus far.

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