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Google Images are blocked by allowed sites filters
How would I blanket approve Google's many IP's?
JS_Harris




msg:3912208
 11:48 pm on May 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

Adsense offers some account protection by being able to list approved sites in the "allowed sites list" but I'm having some dificulty approving Google Image search.

As you know, if someone finds your site via the Google image search your site is opened in a frame. Adsense treats this as still a Google site and so if it's not on your approved site list you will not earn income from any clicks on your ads through the frame.

Trying to add * results in an invalid character error so I've been adding images.google.com.au etc..etc to the list. Unfortunately Google also uses standard IP addresses instead of domain names and I am seeing new IP addresses all the time.

I want to earn income from ads clicked through Google image search, how can I blanket approve Google Image search without allowing all sites ?

 

dauction




msg:3912226
 12:27 am on May 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

As you know, if someone finds your site via the Google image search your site is opened in a frame. Adsense treats this as still a Google site and so if it's not on your approved site list you will not earn income from any clicks on your ads through the frame.

since when ? First I have heard this been with adsense since ..well almost day 1

Clearly hope you are wrong JS..

piatkow




msg:3912586
 1:47 pm on May 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

Am I totally confused about the approved sites list here? I thought the idea was to approve those sites that paid for page views rather than for clicks.

mayest




msg:3912729
 5:27 pm on May 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

This is an issue that I've run into recently as well. Lots of images.google.whatevers in the list. I have always allowed all Google and Yahoo sites in my list, but I've now apparently maxed out the list (both apparently have an unlimited number of IPs). It seems to be limited to 100 sites. If there is some kind of regex or just wildcard characters, I'd love to know.

I also had "google.com" and "yahoo.com" in my list, but those didn't have any effect. Their IPs still show up in the list of sites displaying my ads without permission.

I'd guess that I'm not losing any significant revenue from these sites, but it is still frustrating.

dauction




msg:3912748
 5:37 pm on May 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'd guess that I'm not losing any significant revenue from these sites, but it is still frustrating.

Why would you be losing money ?

I believe you all are mistaken if you believe you don't get "credit" for clicks coming from Google Images .. (at least that's I I hope it works out lol)

Adsense Advisor could you step in and clear this Up/

HowYesNo




msg:3913653
 4:09 pm on May 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

you don't have to put all google/yahoo/msn urls in list, you'll get paid when someone visit your site from g images frame and click on ad

i have 95% traffic from g images (4-5 years) so you can trust me ;)

mayest




msg:3913796
 6:50 pm on May 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Ah well, that's good news then. Thanks dauction and HowYesNo.

I would still like some confirmation from ASA, though. :-)

dusky




msg:3919133
 7:31 pm on May 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

you don't have to put all google/yahoo/msn urls in list, you'll get paid when someone visit your site from g images frame and click on ad

i have 95% traffic from g images (4-5 years) so you can trust me ;)

HowYesNo,

I trust you, your 95% of traffic are people who got out of the frame, but do you trust me if I tell you, if you disable it for a month, you'll come back here gob smacked at the % of your revenue hitting the roof and in the longer run, your CTR and eCPM will improve so will your revenue!

Note: I can't be held responsible on the other hand for your losses, this is only my own observation, experiment at your own risk!

But you don't get paid when they don't visit and click the ad (still inside the frame)!

This problem was highlighted since 2007 when it was released, and for the life of me I can't understand why *G does not discount or disregard their own IPs (hundreds of them), if a visitor from http//*G IP address/search OR http//*G IP address/translate_c or others such images etc, the ad shows but it is ignored. There are others and some even without IPs but with the proper *G domain name.

There are other implications in my view, *G says ads show but are ignored, they failed to say they record the impressions and clicks, though don't pay you a cent, they are nonetheless included in the overall CTR and eCPM and likely you get smart priced by mistake, theirs!

I'd love someone from the *G brigade to come here and tell me I am wrong, they might of course for the sake of not causing panic, but I bet if this has been fixed, there will be more legitimate revenue and true CTR and eCPM for publishers, hence less moaning and dissatisfaction...
Advertisers will also benefit, visitors coming to them referred by publishers for free will lead to some publishers banning those advertisers, they will see them as non converters. They may not know exactly who those advertisers are, but may just feel "if I ban some for while" and wait and see.

Now, for many people this is a trivial concern, for some like you, most of the traffic is from cache, images etc, if visitors do not get out of the frame, clicks and impressions are not counted, and many are not likely to get out of the frame. They looked at the image or read the page from cache, time to go back or click web or image results again.

bumpski




msg:3919708
 11:37 am on May 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

You can add "frame buster" code to your pages, but at least in the past, this kicked you out of Yahoo images!

dusky




msg:3919718
 12:46 pm on May 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

Tried that, *G also don't look kindly at people using it and may kick image pages and de-index them, same as yahoo and other search engines. They have the frame in place to enable people to have a quick glance at the image or whatever it is, forcing that frame removal automatically (they have a link to remove the frame by hand anyway) without visitors or search engines consent defeats their purpose. While visitors / searchers are within that frame, they are within the search engine's page, forcing them to come to your site may be against the TOS or may attract filters or penalties at the least.
I know the argument can go on as to who owns the content within that frame...

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