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AdSense Competitive Ad Filter Limit Raised to 500
One of your Top 5 requests (quietly) launched
AdSenseAdvisor

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 5:59 pm on Apr 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

Top 5 Adsense Publisher Requests
1. Minimum CPC
2. More channels
3. Block ads by keyword
4. Bigger competitive filter
5. Smart pricing information

Check your account. We have more than doubled your number of filters (to 500).

Please don't go crazy with this. The reason we're not announcing it on the blog is that we don't want to overload our system with everyone filling their filters to capacity at once.

Huge thanks go to the awesome engineering team that implemented this for us (I'm an AdSense publisher, too, after all).

Please feel free to leave love letters to our engineers below.

ASA

 

Khensu

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 12:02 am on Apr 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

"Take it to the limit one more time"
-Eagles

true_INFP

I knew someone would amend that.

"I am feeling a little vaklempt. I give you a topic, talk amongst yourselves!"
- Coffee Talk SNL

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 1:53 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'm an AdSense publisher, too, after all

I think this needs clarification from ASA as it seems to have caused some confusion.

Yes, Google employees are obviously allowed to run web sites, it's been said before, but not in relation to AdSense afaik.

Another way out for ASA (although not too strong), is that all Google employees are AdSense publishers since they work for a company that publishes a web site and makes money off AdSense.

I neither see a conflict of interest, on the contrary it is good to have Googlers suffering too ;-), nor am too worried about Google's ethics, I know first hand the kind of people Google hires and that their recruitment and internal auditing procedures leaves nothing to chance, my concerns nowadays are more code quality related, but it would still be good if ASA clarifies the above.

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 3:48 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I neither see a conflict of interest

I see not only a conflict of interest, a higher chance of evading fraud detection algorithms, etc., but mainly a potential for abuse of internal information. Information about the system that is not available to competition (i.e. to other AdSense publishers).

IANAL, but there might even be laws forbidding such things. At least here in the EU, we do have such laws. They protect companies from their own employees, and, above all, they protect the free market and competition.

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 3:58 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

My understanding is that AdSense and AdWords employees are encouraged to run AdSense and AdWords themselves. I seem to recall some threads about that in years past.

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 4:02 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'm an AdSense publisher, too, after all

Yes, Google employees are obviously allowed to run web sites, it's been said before, but not in relation to AdSense afaik.

Well, ASA did write "AdSense publisher", not just "publisher"

When I read the statement, I took it to mean that in addition to being an employee of Google, the ASA is an AdSense publisher on the side. That may or may not have been what ASA meant.

The thing that caught my attention about that was in a previous thread people were asking for the ability to set a minimum CPC. The ASA asked something along the lines of "why would you want to do that?" If the ASA is indeed an AdSense publisher and asked that question, well, I think that says something.

FarmBoy

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 4:18 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Where exactly is that filter? I have checked my adsense account inside out and I can't find it. I would like to filter keywords. I did find the competition url feature, but that's it. Where is this famous filter guys?

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 4:59 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Look again under Famous Features >> Filters >> Keyword
Right under block by advertiser account
And above the boost earnings button.
Good luck.

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 5:07 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

About the limit increase: I had hoped that there would be mention on the filter page something to the effect of "you have used x out of y available filters" so you'd have an idea of usage.

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 6:53 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Thanks Hobbs, but I still couldn't find it. Went to adsense help and they say they don't provide this feature. I guess only some accounts were offered that filter or something.

Hobbs

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 7:16 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

cien, sorry to send you on a wild feature chase,
this feature does not exist, read the thread from the beginning, it is about the competitive ad filter.

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 11:42 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

> My understanding is that AdSense and AdWords employees are encouraged to run AdSense and AdWords themselves. I seem to recall some threads about that in years past.

Never saw that, but in any case, there are pros and cons of AdSense employees with AdSense accounts. Pros: they will understand better what developments publishers should get. Cons: they will potentially take money from other publishers with "inside information" to know the real tricks of the trade.

> About the limit increase: I had hoped that there would be mention on the filter page something to the effect of "you have used x out of y available filters" so you'd have an idea of usage.

Exactly. There is one for the channels, so why not filters, too.

500 is better, but I'm still lobbying for a Fraud Filter (unlimited). Why is Google still trying to get us to use a Competitive Ad Filter for something it wasn't intended for? How many publishers have 500 competitors!? lol.

@netmeg: Don't advertisers have a filter that can block by account? I think publishers should be able to filter associated advertisements. (Publishers enter one target URL; Google blocks all ads by advertisers associated with that account.) The threat alone of being blacklisted would make more advertisers ethical, wouldn't it?

p/g

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 11:59 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

My understanding is that AdSense and AdWords employees are encouraged to run AdSense and AdWords themselves. I seem to recall some threads about that in years past

There was a thread on this very topic just two days ago. However it seems to have vanished into thin air.

Scurramunga

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 12:04 am on Apr 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

...publishers should be able to filter associated advertisements. (Publishers enter one target URL; Google blocks all ads by advertisers associated with that account.)

Now that would be nice.

[edited by: Scurramunga at 12:05 am (utc) on April 15, 2009]

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Msg#: 3887327 posted 2:51 pm on Apr 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

The ASA asked something along the lines of "why would you want to do that?" If the ASA is indeed an AdSense publisher and asked that question, well, I think that says something.

I dunno, I'm a longtime publisher, and that's not something that's high my list either.

@netmeg: Don't advertisers have a filter that can block by account? I think publishers should be able to filter associated advertisements. (Publishers enter one target URL; Google blocks all ads by advertisers associated with that account.) The threat alone of being blacklisted would make more advertisers ethical, wouldn't it?

No, advertisers can block specific urls, and they can block a handful of site types (violent content, parked domains, forums, video sites, a couple others) That's it. If you have five sites, and I block one of yours by domain name, I could conceivably still show up on the other four.

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