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Is the OPT OUT button not working in adsense Interest Based options?
JS_Harris




msg:3869396
 5:58 am on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

In my adsense control panel, under my account/Interest-based Ads Preference, I've opted out of this change for now. I choose this option...
Do not show ads based on user interest categories. Visitation information from my sites will not be used to help create interest categories.

But my sites are still showing me webmaster related ads. When not working on my own sites I'm generally in a webmaster forum of some kind learning something new. I don't do much else with my work computer honestly.

Why am I being shown internet based targeting anyway on my sites?

Did I misunderstand the OPT OUT feature to simply mean I'm still going to be targeted but my site won't be used for data gathering? If thats the case EVERYONE is now interest targeted wether they like it or not right?

I'm not liking this, my traffic is primarily from search from people looking for what my site is about... I don't want to show them ads on some other subject because that's NOT why they came to my site.

edit: I turned the option off yesterday evening, when I first learned it had been running on my sites. 24 hours and counting now... how long before my site stops doing this?

[edited by: JS_Harris at 6:01 am (utc) on Mar. 13, 2009]

 

zett




msg:3869409
 6:32 am on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the opt-out to kick in. When I opted out of CPM ads, it took Google about SIX WEEKS (after their confirmation mail) to fully stop CPM ads. The filter is also not working in near real-time. That's the service you get from a monopoly.

JS_Harris




msg:3869410
 6:46 am on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'm not looking to bash the service but I never opted into this to begin with so i'm a little less tolerant of the delay in turning it off.

I may very well turn it on later but for now I'm going to wait and see if people start proclaiming their earnings are up because of this. Otherwise i'm leaning towards protecting my visitors privacy... it matters.

tangor




msg:3869776
 4:23 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'm pretty sure that webmasters shutting this off won't make a difference. Google is tracking BROWSER behavior and, when push comes to shove, the person operating that browser will have to be the one to shut it off...AT GOOGLE. So far that option is not available on the public google preferences.

ken_b




msg:3869811
 5:07 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

As usual, there is some confusion about this mess, but here is a bit of additional info from the Google AdSense help [google.com] section.

Even if you choose to opt out of displaying ads based on interest categories, your site(s) will continue to show ads based on user interactions with an advertiser

Jean




msg:3869898
 6:47 pm on Mar 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

Even if you choose to opt out of displaying ads based on interest categories, your site(s) will continue to show ads based on user interactions with an advertiser

So what is the point of having an opt-out option?

The whole implementation of this new feature looks like a real mess.

JS_Harris




msg:3870081
 12:15 am on Mar 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

First they turn it on without warning anyone it even exists.

Next they tell publishers to update privacy policies after the fact.

And now publishers can't even turn off the Google Data mining Machine with the opt out button?

Nice.....

Sally Stitts




msg:3870337
 3:47 pm on Mar 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

The Europeans are just going to love this stuff.

Is it possible that average users will become sufficiently aware of this privacy-intrusion tracking, to create a boom in the use of proxies?

Like Judy Tenuta says, "It could happen".
Or, maybe not. Unless someone were to create a big educational campaign to do this. FWIW, I know of several people who will be using proxies a lot more.

ken_b




msg:3870427
 8:20 pm on Mar 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

What's the point of opting out of this thing? As far as I can tell, opting out (as a site) only means that G won't use tracking info from your site to determine what ads the visitor sees on other sites.

They are STILL GOING TO SHOW your visitors "interest based ads" based on info from other sites.

You can't opt out of G showing "interest based ads" on your site!

For the visitor to opt out of interest based ads, they need to re-opt-out EVERY TIME they clear the cookies from the computer.

So users like me that clear all cookies when the browswer gets shut down, will have to re-opt-out EVERY TIME we start a new browser session. And that means RE-OPTING-OUT for every browser we use EVERY TIME we start a new session with that browswer.

Could they make opting out any more difficult?

Here's what I did....

I've now set my prefs to allow cookies only from allowed sites. In my case, that's 2 sites, and GOOGLE is NOT one of the 2.

When I want to check my AdSense stats I just allow the cookies for that short period of time and disallow cookies from G as soon as I'm done checking mystats.

What a load of crap this is turning out to be.

What ever happened to the nice old "contextual text ads" program that we signed on for originally years ago? Yeah, yeah, I know.... progress.

JS_Harris




msg:3871111
 3:20 am on Mar 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

ken_b
They are STILL GOING TO SHOW your visitors "interest based ads" based on info from other sites.

For now I want nothing to do with "interest based ads" because my traffic is primarily from search. When someone searches for a kitchen widget they want to buy a kitchen widget and are less likely to click on ads about widget sports ya know?

I believe that this will hurt publishers who want site targeted ads, not interest based ads, because they're traffic is laser targeted via search engine.

edit: If I can't make sure my site gets only ads about my site topic I SHOULD be able to turn off Google's new interest based ads. NOT being able to has me measuring options in case earnings drop.

[edited by: JS_Harris at 3:22 am (utc) on Mar. 16, 2009]

netmeg




msg:3871393
 2:46 pm on Mar 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

You should always be measuring other options anyway.

farmboy




msg:3871448
 4:01 pm on Mar 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

They are STILL GOING TO SHOW your visitors "interest based ads" based on info from other sites.

You can't opt out of G showing "interest based ads" on your site!

That's not how I read it. The quote from Google posted in a previous post in this thread was from an answer to a question about whether the privacy policy still needs to be changed if the publisher has opted out of ads based on interest categories.

Here's that quote with more context:

Yes, you'll still need to update your privacy policy. Even if you choose to opt out of displaying ads based on interest categories, your site(s) will continue to show ads based on user interactions with an advertiser, such as visits to advertiser sites. As a result, your privacy policy still needs to reflect interest-based advertising.

The even if you choose to opt out part tells me you can opt out and the continue to show ads part tells me they are going to continue to show ads based on user interactions with an advertiser, as they have been doing, and the privacy policy needs to be updated to reflect that.

In other words, ads are available based on (1) User Interest Categories (new) and (2) Ads based on user interactions with an advertiser (same as before).

You can opt out of (1) if you want.

Even if ads based on User Interest Categories were not being introduced at this time, they are telling us our privacy policy needs to be updated anyway - to reflect that ads are being displayed based on interest - interest shown by prior ad clicking to be specific.

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By the way, I have some sites that cover some specific niches. Based on what I've seen on various sites that try to develop categories, I really don't think this ads-by-category thing is going to be a big deal, especially for publishers with sites like mine - unless Google has some people with VERY diverse knowledge and who have spent a lot of time and effort in developing categories.

FarmBoy

farmboy




msg:3871451
 4:03 pm on Mar 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

But my sites are still showing me webmaster related ads. When not working on my own sites I'm generally in a webmaster forum of some kind learning something new. I don't do much else with my work computer honestly.

Why am I being shown internet based targeting anyway on my sites?

On Google, it says that displaying of ads based on interest categories will not begin until April 8.

FarmBoy

freelistfool




msg:3876418
 4:48 pm on Mar 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

In other words, ads are available based on (1) User Interest Categories (new) and (2) Ads based on user interactions with an advertiser (same as before).

I believe Farmboy is correct. I've seen the "ads based on user interactions with an advertiser" behavior for over two years now. Google is now adding a similar feature that targets the ads by category of all sites a person visits. The only thing that will change is the sample set used for targeting the ads. It will be increasing from Google's advertisers to all sites in Google's index.

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