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Right time to quit AdSense?
Future




msg:3862924
 9:11 pm on Mar 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

Out of bunch of sites we are running with Google Adsense Program, few of same are showing adverse effects since last couple of months.
(in terms of revenue)

There is a constant increase in traffic with quality content we are able to provide (for sites running google adsense program), however, the ECPM and CTR has been affected a lot.
(there is no measure lead to us to gauge decline in revenue from Adsense Program for our site quality and increasing traffic, we have no information if we are getting paid right amount !)

We have shifted several sites to other publishing networks since last 6 months of time (taking into consideration recession effect) these Ad publising networks (comparatively high paying then adsense) have been able to give us higher revenue or atleast what we earned equivalent in past.

It is time to MOVE completely away from Adsense or stick to them ?
If yes, Why ?
If no, Why ?

Atleast, happy with few WEBSITES running on other AD Networks doing much better then Adsense Program from Google.

Publising is bread and butter for our survival.

[edited by: Future at 9:13 pm (utc) on Mar. 4, 2009]

 

beggers




msg:3862962
 9:52 pm on Mar 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

What ad networks are generating more than AdSense?

Karma




msg:3862983
 10:13 pm on Mar 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

It's all about what works for your site(s), go experiment as there is simply no conclusive answer.

What I'd also suggest is experimenting with your ad positions and colours, can make a huge difference.

sabrebIade




msg:3863050
 11:54 pm on Mar 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

The yes part....
One bad day after another, eCPM falling like a rock. Weird sticking stats that never seem to really recover. Earnings dropping (mine are literally about halved).

The no part....
It's Google. In the back of my mind I keep thinking they'll pull out of this and things will get better.

And I,for one, would really like to know what other publishing networks you're using that are comparable to Adsense.
Because I haven't found any yet.
If you don't wanna publish them here, feel free to e-mail them to me.
I'd really be interested.

netmeg




msg:3863076
 12:41 am on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

If you found something that is outperforming AdSense, why are you even asking?

koan




msg:3863103
 1:17 am on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

If you found something that is outperforming AdSense, why are you even asking?

Lol, indeed, the question is the answer. I don't know why it should exclusive though... this OR that. Why not a mix and use all their respective strengths?

I'm also curious about those other networks. Maybe CPM is simply doing better now than CPC?

NoPlaceLikeHome




msg:3863129
 1:54 am on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

If you found something that is outperforming AdSense, why are you even asking?

Let me tell you why. A lot of publishers here earn good amount of $$$ everyday and quit day time jobs. Now the earning is down, from $$$ to $$, without any reason?

tangor




msg:3863151
 2:28 am on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

The "reason" is staring everyone in the face. There is a general downturn in ALL financial business WORLDWIDE. Depending on the size of your web income it might be time to look into day jobs just to tide one over until the global economy turns up again (as it will... but when?).

explorador




msg:3863241
 5:30 am on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

I've been researching and I've found Adsense on a lot of cr@ppy sites. Some of them don't even qualify for *nothing* at first or third sight. I have no clue why they got in the Adsense program. (like everybody could join, meaning: nobody watching the door, quality...)

I guess eventually Adsense is becoming ignored by the visitors as the ads appear everywhere (bad quality sites).

I'm not out of Adsense, but a lot of the readings here made me see the potential of certain sites, but yet, having less income via adsense, thus, finding new ways to monetize the sites. I guess Adsense is not for all.

markis00




msg:3863253
 6:09 am on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

I as well would like to know which programs net higher pay then Adsense. In Canada we still cannot sign up for a Yahoo account; and as far as I know, Overture no longer gives accounts out to companies for publishing ads...

simonuk




msg:3863355
 9:40 am on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

There are a lot of people like me that used to advertise on content networks and in the good times I didn't mind the *much* lower conversions because I was also promoting brand awareness.

Now in the bad times I have to focus all my energy on the advertising that I know works. There was an increase in clicks/costs on content networks without the same increase in hits so I was getting increasingly concerned about this. After some thought I stopped all content network advertising and focused all my efforts on search networks.

I bet I'm not the only one and as advertisers stop or decrease the CPC it will only lower and lower the costs adsense users will receive.

dt1961




msg:3863374
 10:45 am on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

Which programs are out performing Adsense?

We have removed Adsense from some sites as we found affiliate links provided a better return but we have had little luck with adsense competitors.

maximillianos




msg:3863735
 7:01 pm on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

Some sites will never do well with any type of ads. It is the nature of the beast. Just as some stores will never succeed when placed in certain locations. Supply and demand.

StoutFiles




msg:3863769
 7:39 pm on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

All sites should really be using a rotating ad script. If a visitor visits 5 pages, make sure he sees three different companies.

nippi




msg:3863908
 11:40 pm on Mar 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

if a site visitors sees 5 different pages.... i show them 5 different colors designs, and content shows 5 differernt adsense ads as content sets the ads.

why show different ad company?

sabrebIade




msg:3863913
 12:04 am on Mar 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

"why show different ad company?"

"If a visitor visits 5 pages, make sure he sees three different companies."

If you look at it from a retail store point of view ad rotation makes sense.
Go in Wal-Mart.
If you go in there looking for Ketchup, (catsup), they don't just have Heinz.
You'll see Heinz, Del Monte, Hunts, plus smaller companies brands and Wal-Marts own store brand.
It gives the customer variety and a different price range.
So giving your "customer" a different variety of ads would give them more chances to click on an ad they are interested in.
It's not "click this one or nothing".
That is, if I understood StoutFiles statement correctly.

netmeg




msg:3863925
 12:25 am on Mar 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

Yup; I rotate between AdSense, Amazon, adCenter and some affiliate stuff I've picked out.

markis00




msg:3863969
 2:10 am on Mar 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

Can we skip the lesson on ad rotation and move directly to which services make more then Adsense?

Seriously, I've only had to ask 3 times now...

ken_b




msg:3863978
 2:28 am on Mar 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

which services make more then Adsense?

You probably won't get an answer to that question here on the board. There are simply too many unknowns for anyone to give a meaningful answer.

What might pay really well on my site might only pay pennies on your site.

I don't recall anyone actually dropping an AdSense like program name here that worked equally well for even a small number of sites, let alone for a large numbe of various topic sites.

If there was such a program, no one would need to ask, the info would already be well known.

But that's just my opinion.

But maybe take a look at the advertising and affiliate forum [webmasterworld.com] for some ideas.

netmeg




msg:3864497
 6:55 pm on Mar 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

Besides, this is the ADSENSE forum, and we don't post links or talk specifics on WebmasterWorld.

m0thman




msg:3865000
 11:55 am on Mar 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

it might be time to look into day jobs just to tide one over until the global economy turns up again

What day jobs.. they've all dried up as well!

nomis5




msg:3865050
 2:23 pm on Mar 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

We can mention Adsense, therefore we can, and many times have, specified the competition names. Adbrite, Yahoo etc etc have been mentioned lots of times as far as I remember.

The question again from another person:

What ad networks are generating more than AdSense?

pothi




msg:3865133
 5:15 pm on Mar 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

Future...

As you have a bunch of sites, I would highly recommend to test other networks in steps and at the same time, watch out the PR and the search engine traffic before switching completed away from Adsense.

HTH.

markis00




msg:3865254
 9:10 pm on Mar 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

hey nomi, I guess no one seems interested in answering simple questions on this forum

"Besides, this is the ADSENSE forum, and we don't post links or talk specifics on WebmasterWorld. "

That would make too much sense, would'nt it? I've been in internet marketing for over 4 years, having someone tell me the same old rheteric of "different programs work better for different sites" is kind of useless

Khensu




msg:3865635
 11:46 am on Mar 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

Waiting for more opinions

I think he is stringing you guys and gals along.

If we were playing poker I would double my bet right now because I think he's bluffing.

nomis5




msg:3865683
 1:39 pm on Mar 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

Of course Khensu, you are correct!

But every now and then the urge to ask a straightforward question and see if anyone has a straightforward answer affects a few of us. One day that answer just might be given but I do not live in hope. Nor, does anyone else on this thread I fear.

But we can try every once in a while! And the lack of a straightforward answer is an answer in itself.

sabrebIade




msg:3865811
 7:00 pm on Mar 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

One thing I thought of is with the massive amount of knowledge here on this forum, if anyone had actually found a program that beat AdSense, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops.
It's not like if anyone else joined they'd quit making money.
And they would probably want the credit for leading everyone out of the darkness.
Which I would gladly give them BTW.

Swanny007




msg:3865916
 10:51 pm on Mar 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

I've tried some alternatives, they just aren't as good. CPM networks have much lower CPMs and less targeted ads. Affiliate programs work but you only get paid if someone buys something. The next best paying thing on my sites is Kontera. And it only performs well on two of the six or so sites I have it on, so even it is dependent on the site audience.

The best advice I can give anyone reading this thread is don't be complacent. If you think you can make more money with something else, experiment, experiment, and experiment some more. I've tried different placements, different ad networks, etc. In the end AdSense is #1 but it doesn't mean you shouldn't try other things and see what works for YOUR site.

Good luck.

StoutFiles




msg:3865975
 12:48 am on Mar 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

Can we skip the lesson on ad rotation and move directly to which services make more then Adsense?

Don't you think if there was a company that always made more than Adsense we'd all be there? Adsense is the best ad company for the majority of people. It's easy to get into, pays consistenly, and pays above average compared to the rest.

Yes, there are better ad networks for certain topics. For most of them your site will need to match their standards and accepted traffic levels to be approved. I'm not doing the research for you though. Search around, try out some different comapnies, and see what works best for your site, because only YOU can answer that question.

[edited by: StoutFiles at 12:49 am (utc) on Mar. 9, 2009]

Khensu




msg:3865983
 1:13 am on Mar 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

The questions and the pensiveness at the end of the original post says it all.

He is trying to get us to lead him out of darkness by setting up a reverse scenario.

Manipulation 101 tactics and I have my doctorate in it so ya can't fool me!

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