Solidarity among publishers would be a step in the right direction, but, as we all know, getting publishers (or any group of independent entrepreneurs for that matter) to agree on anything is akin to herding cats.
Just for the heck of it, as an adsense publisher, here is a short wish list for publishers. Surely, not eveyone will agree, but it's what I'd like to see from Google.
1. An explicit understanding of what my split and what Google's split is on all clicks.
2. A dedicated team to deal with publishers as a group, ensuring that all publishers are treated fairly.
3. Since Google uses my site and the sites of all publishers to enhance their index (and their revenue) more appreciation of that fact with a better revenue share.
Here's an explanation of what I mean in #3. When somebody clicks on an ad in the SERPs (and Google gets to keep all the money), they should share that with publishers whose sites were on that page and did not get traffic. Instead, the searcher is essentially giving Google money to the detriment of the publishers who trust G to deliver organized, relevant results, i.e., our sites.
When they click away from the actual search results, we are penalized for allowing our sites to be crawled.
I'm sure I'll hear the counter-argument that G gives us free traffic, but that's a straw man. We grant Google the right to use our site content. We should share in ALL revenue.
Money seems fine, impressions are 1/2 of what they should be, eCPM is double what it should be.
Not just you...easily my worst earning's day of the year plus EPC average down 17.6%...yeah, Valentine's kiss my a$$ Google.
'I'm sure I'll hear the counter-argument that G gives us free traffic, but that's a straw man. We grant Google the right to use our site content. We should share in ALL revenue.'
I see where you are coming from but you have to remember it does cost google to index your site. They pay for the many datacenters, they pay for the many programs, they pay for the 1000's of staff members.
What about sites listed in the results whom are not adsense publishers, is their share given to others that are?
If you are not happy with google taking 100% of the ads displayed on their results page why not just get your site removed from the index and rely soley on the other search engines? I am sure you will then realise that the little traffic you lose to the ads is minute compared to the traffic you would lose by not being indexed by google for free.
My main money earning site of 2007 lost 95% of traffic when Google deindexed it so I am not going to complain about a few ads on the results pages if my site was listed.
My stats are insane. I run a fairly popular site but Adsense only shows 700 impressions today, however clicks seem to be updated faster than impressions so my CTR is ridiculously high now.
lucky you Husky... you even have $$ in your a$$ !?
It's now February 15, and my eCPM for February 14 turned out to be 12 percent higher than the February average.
By waiting to check my stats until the day was over, I saved myself a lot of stress. :-)
(BTW, when I logged in just now, I noticed that today's eCPM is running 51 percent ahead of February's average. But I'll hold off on opening the bottle of Champagne until the day is done.)
|you even have $$ in your a$$ !? |
Safest place to keep them...would you trust a bank!?:-)
Google acknowledge problem, working on it...
I just wanted to let you all know that we did experience an issue today (Feb. 14th) that affected publisher stats and reporting -- it began at 4am PST and lasted several hours. The good news is that your stats haven't been lost, and our engineers are working to get everything updated as soon as possible.
Thanks for all of your reports. We apologize for the inconvenience, and appreciate your continued patience as we resolve this issue.
Cheers for the link netchicken1.
They can say what they like, my feelings are that a fair bit of my stats have been lost.
Things are still wonky - seems like clicks from yesterday are being dumped onto today. Impressions way down today yet clicks way up, but yesterday's clicks far too low even though the impressions seems okay. Frustrating to not know what's really going on.
its obviously a problem, chill out and just wait until its all sorted before going pear shaped about everything..... youll give yourself a heart attack if you panic everytime google stats go abit wobbly.
|Money seems fine, impressions are 1/2 of what they should be, eCPM is double what it should be. |
Impressions 42% below Sunday last week at the same time.
Not so much a panic, just concern because if like me stats and impressions are still way down for yesterday and seriously lagging today we have no way of knowing whether google has already or will update them. Or if they do whether or not they'll be accurate or whether we just have to write off two days of adsense earnings.
As yet there's no official response from google or any notice up when we log in to adsense to say if the problem is still occurring.
cute gift from Google indeed.
didn't check earnings up until the clicks were in but impressions were at 30%. You can imagine the eCPM.
it's all in now though.
Traffic here is way down, more than usual for a Sunday.
But my CTR and ECPM is way higher than normal.
Maybe its a Valentine's Day hangover?
Earnings ended quite #*$!, as usual when delays in stats. Ho hum :)
Traffic has been up for me on Sunday, by quite a bit compared to normal Sundays. And I imagine it'll go up a lot higher given that I usually get a bit of a rush on my sites in the morning as well.
My traffic for a Sunday is pretty normal, but CTR and ecpm are totally in the garbage. This has been ongoing for me since mid-January and now it is actually becoming unbearable. I will make almost as much today on my CPM ads through ValueClick as I will with Adsense.
I'd like to know why AdSense Advisor has been absent through the past two days. If he/she is an "advisor" how about actually offering some "advice." Either that, or get another job.
If anyone thinks I'm being harsh on this person, bear in mind that this is a company that makes Billions of $$$, and they can't afford somebody moniotring one board on a weekend?
Give me a break. Google is broken, something has gone very much awry and, as usual, they aren't telling. I'm sick of it to the point that I'll just keep complaining until they 'fess up or fix it or kick me out of the system.
If I'm making nearly as much with untargeted CPM ads, then maybe AdSense isn't for me. I want answers or an end to the agony. Why have my click-throughs dropped by 60%?
Fix it, for God's sake.
And by the way, I found the Valentine's day "poem" on the Adsense blog to be insulting, considering that Adsense was essentially down for the count, as well as an affront to my artistic sensibilities. If Billion $$ Google wants poetry, they could have hired me, as opposed to the second rate impostor they chose.
>>>I'd like to know why AdSense Advisor has been absent through the past two days.
Aside from it being a weekend and people are entitled to a day off, it's also President's Day Weekend. Many people, particularly in California, go away for the weekend as well as for the rest of the week because many schools are out.
The issue is timely meaningful communication which they continue to fail at, there is not a single acceptable excuse for taking that long except maybe when the whole network's future is being reconsidered and you delay communication while important decisions are being made, or perhaps when you don't really know what went wrong and how or when it will be fixed, hopefully neither was the case, other than that, they continue to do a very bad job on the basic communication level and I'm not talking about ASA or this forum.
[edited by: martinibuster at 9:13 am (utc) on Feb. 16, 2009]
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In the cool breeze I smell the flowers of redemption, of a stats not yet given. How could I imagine the future? Bleak, Googless, sunk in a dark abyss loosing myself in a deep pity, a conundrum devoid of sats. Symbolic numbers with a relative sense, their forbearance on the Cosmos is heavy and their evolution of the continuum of time is manifest.
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Did anyone just see a click dump from over the weekend?
Is anybody else still getting lagging impressions?
I'm really afraid to speak too soon, but this year so far, my CTR and therefore my ECPM have been way lower than what is normal for me.
Since Saturday's "glitch", my CTR and ECPM are almost back to what is normal. All of January and half of February was way off on earnings, but since Saturday, things look good. Anyone else seeing this? Or is this "glitch" not yet fixed?
|Is anybody else still getting lagging impressions? |
Yesterday was completely normal for me however today's look as though they need an updation! :-)
About a couple of hours behind I would say.
I really hope so hp. I'm in the uk my earnings are about 25% down for this time of day as well as a really low ecpm.
These updates scare me #*$!less as they can honestly effect my earnings by a few grand from a small tweak.
Though yesterday seemed about right. Certainly no complaints.
Why they can't simply inform us through the control panel that they're doing work is beyond me.
Thank god for WebmasterWorld!
|Why they can't simply inform us through the control panel that they're doing work is beyond me. |
They like the idea of being a black box. The fewer information gets out of this black box, the better. I think they want to check how much we are going to endure. They want to find out when enough is indeed enough (i.e. by when publishers are actually reducing page impressions [leaving the program]).
There is no other explanation for this incredible mis-communication. (We know for ages, that we are neither customer nor partners to them.)
My take? It works very well. They can certainly do without huskypup, realmaverick, and zett, and the other dozen critics. And even these guys are still using Adsense...
My earnings are coming back to Oct 2008 times before the 'economy' crash. LOL!
Googles reporting, ad targeting, whatever is clearly fubar'd. I'm just glad I'm one of the ones back on the good side of it.
Yesterday was my worst day for longer than I can remember. Like $150 less than it was just a few months ago.
It's so up and down lately that I think it's best to just forget it and wait for the surprise when the cheque arrives.
I hope one day an ad publisher with enough power can come along and rival Google. I find it detestable the way we're treat, just because they know we have nowhere else to turn really.
Not even telling us what their split is, means they can abuse their position. They should be forced to divulge their cut, it's just open to too much abuse.
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