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My student reached first time $10 a day
Started complete new site July 2008
jetteroheller




msg:3817713
 8:33 am on Jan 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Spring 2008, a big fan of my sites wrote me.

But he had also a problem, he lives in an rural area of the earlier East Germany.

His old company did not exist anymore, no chance to start a new business in this area.

He started July last year with a web site.
I teached him by remote support and Skype how to use my CMS.

He applied for AdSense in September and started end of September.

He finished December 2008 with nearly $100.

He crossed January 1 first time $10 a day.

To make his living, $1000 a month required.
This is the target until the end of 2009.

 

benevolent001




msg:3817741
 9:48 am on Jan 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi , really great to hear this...thats what the power of internet , really no barriers , just what it requires is will to learn to teach and to do hard work nothing else.

jetteroheller




msg:3817822
 1:45 pm on Jan 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

just what it requires is will to learn to teach and to do hard work nothing else.

Hard work, many month

this is the biggest barrier for most people,
they search all for quick money.
Little work, and immedeately money.

There are only a few people ready for slow money.

He has now 350 pages with own written articles and self created photos.

Swanny007




msg:3817875
 3:53 pm on Jan 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

I like stories like this. Slow and steady wins the race ;-) Like you said many people look to make a quick buck, not me. I live off my web site income so I want income long-term.

ember




msg:3817917
 5:14 pm on Jan 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Very encouraging. I think of all the people losing their jobs and homes these days. With a mentor (or even a day few days spent reading this forum) and patience, they could start earning extra money, and eventually a living, online. Most don't have the patience, though, which is a shame because the Internet is the great equalizer.

johnnie




msg:3818037
 8:01 pm on Jan 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Nice to read such a motivational post every ow and then!

One question though: how on earth are you going to make a living in Germany with only $1000? Did you fortget about the exchange rate?

jetteroheller




msg:3818045
 8:13 pm on Jan 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

One question though: how on earth are you going to make a living in Germany with only $1000? Did you fortget about the exchange rate?

It's intended, that AdSense is not the only income line.

He tries to cooperate with different companies to get money for bringing new customers.

His wife has a job and brings the other part of the family income.

It's not to get rich, it's just to survive.

But to survive can be in this times also a complicate task.

janharders




msg:3818046
 8:15 pm on Jan 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

One question though: how on earth are you going to make a living in Germany with only $1000? Did you fortget about the exchange rate?

I'm from germany and I can answer that: I couldn't, because I'm in west-germany, but I could if I was living in the eastern part (even in Berlin). Comparing Hamburg and Berlin (Hamburg has ~1.8m people, berlin ~3.4m plus Berlin is the capital), you'd be shocked (if you live in Hamburg, happy if you're in Berlin), since comparable appartments will be 30-60% cheaper in Berlin. A friend of mine and his family have a generous 90sq meters apartment in one of the "hip" parts of Berlin and they pay little more than I do in an average part of Hamburg for 42sq meters. Even though the dollar is pretty weak right now, I still guess you could live off $1000 in eastern germany (especially in the rural areas where it's much cheaper than in Berlin).

nomis5




msg:3818090
 9:37 pm on Jan 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

And how do I get in contact with with you for more details on your unbeatable CMS?

zorogat




msg:3819587
 5:09 pm on Jan 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

fantastic job jetteroheller!
i have to say thank you to you, too, because i learnt a lot from your posts.
i live in Italy and i achieved more or less the same results in 7/8 months of work, i published only 200 pages, though, and my niche is a tough one.

nomis5: it's not about a CMS or a secret formula for quick success, it's all about what you publish and how you promote it.
there are so many informations lacking in the internet, if you produce something useful to someone, and let the world know,then you'll be rewarded.

nomis5




msg:3820535
 9:52 pm on Jan 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

Apologies, I was being a cynic about the OP's motives. Clearly from everyone else's comments I was wrong.

zico




msg:3820658
 1:56 am on Jan 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

that's awesome, I love reading such stories that don't just put me down but make me want to build a good site.
and GJ jetteroheller.

actually I'm near finishing one of my own and I plan to advertise on it. and I hope to have up to 1000 pages in 2-3 months (as I have a few friends doing it with me). what kind of profit can I expect in a few months once we get let's say 5000 visits a day (if it even happens).

Reno_Chris




msg:3820807
 7:41 am on Jan 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

What you might make on 5000 visits per day is extremely variable. depending on cercumstaces, the niche you are in and other variables, it might possibly be anything from $1 per day to $50 per day and perhaps even more.

I guess the real answer is that you will find out when you get there.

jetteroheller




msg:3820868
 9:32 am on Jan 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

What you might make on 5000 visits per day is extremely variable. depending on cercumstaces, the niche you are in and other variables, it might possibly be anything from $1 per day to $50 per day and perhaps even more.

1 year ago, I would have said up to $100, but now only up to $60.

I had Sunday highest ever page impressions, about 20% more than the last highest ever, but revenues only in the average of the month August.

My last Sunday page impression times the usual eCPM from 2005 to 2007, I would have no money problems.

zico




msg:3821429
 10:00 pm on Jan 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

I have another question. is it smarter to release all our content of around 1000 pages (maybe more we can't know yet) at once, or to let's say add 500 pages and then add other 500 over the next few months. it's not that we couldnt' have 50 000 pages (theoretically) with this niche and the staff, but how would that gradual adding affect the pr and other factors. hence my problem is that I'm merely a designer, but now I've realized that it's very good to know the technical stuff to in order to make a good website even design wise only. everything counts.

jetteroheller




msg:3821494
 11:07 pm on Jan 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

I have another question. is it smarter to release all our content of around 1000 pages (maybe more we can't know yet) at once, or to let's say add 500 pages and then add other 500 over the next few months

A very theoretical question for the situation of my student.

It's a question of motivation to sit all the day at the computer to create new pages.

How to have this motivation, when publising only after 500 pages finished?

He started with maybe only 20 pages. He looked every day in the referer log files

Oh, people are really visiting my page, because they searched at Google for ......

This experience gives the motivation to write the next page.

To see from week to week more visitors.

The sitiation is simple that most people including his wife think he is mad :), so seeing after some days, the just new written page also is found by people searching in Google is very important to hold the motivation.

zico




msg:3821528
 12:13 am on Jan 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

I guess my case is different only because we're a bunch of friends :) that's why we have much content already. but I will report here regardless of what happens with us.

HuskyPup




msg:3821550
 1:00 am on Jan 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

that's why we have much content already.

Why have you not uploaded it to a site already? All my sites start with the same basic 10 pages of index, contact, about, meet, legal etc. and then I expand them from there.

Some now have thousands of pages and some only 20-50 however all those that have content to never seem to have a problem having new content indexed since, I assume, G understands many of the sites are in a constant state of new content whereas many have evergreen content.

Get the stuff up there if it's unique and relevant :-)

farmboy




msg:3821600
 2:49 am on Jan 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

Most don't have the patience, though, which is a shame because the Internet is the great equalizer.

Is it a lack of patience - or is it a lack of motivation, or maybe willingness?

I know a number of people that have a computer, Internet connection, disposable income, time, etc. - everything they need to get started.

Yet just by observing their life habits for a while, it's easy to determine which ones don't have much of a chance of making money online - AdSense or otherwise.

They aren't willing to forgo a few hours of watching sitcoms, to stay home with a sandwich while working instead of going out and spending an hour or more over a restaurant meal, to sacrifice attending the social event of the day, etc.

FarmBoy

louiswang




msg:3822527
 6:07 am on Jan 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

$10 per day is a big amount to the people in China.

In China almost 60 percent people live on Salary of $150 per month, believe or not. I am working for a big MNC China branch and every month my salary is about $400, I make it for 4 members of my family.

From your posts I can imagine that China is the poorest Country in this world.

jetteroheller




msg:3822531
 6:43 am on Jan 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

From your posts I can imagine that China is the poorest Country in this world.

For some technical articles, there is a 1:2.5 difference between price in China and price in US or Europe.

This makes the $400 much more valuable.

I remember 1998 had been the salary for a chief of a group of scientists in Romania in the same range, but the prices in Romania had been the same as in Europe.

Be sure, there are many much purer countries.

louiswang




msg:3822541
 7:16 am on Jan 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi Jetteroheller,

Just take some cases for exmaple,

In China, we should pay

RMB 50 for a Children toy. -- $7.3/ 1 mid-size toy as Wal'Mart's setting dog.
RMB 5 for a piece of bread. -- $0.73/ a piece of bread.
RMB 150 for a normal jeans coat. -- $22/ a jeans coat.
RMB 5 for each Liter of petrol. -- $2.77/ gallon petrol.
RMB 5000-RMB 15000 (the most common price) for each sqm of house. --$730-$1460 /sqm of house.
KFC sells its each Chicken Hamburg for RMB 12.88. -- $1.89/ 1 KFC Chicken Hamburg.

Then what do you think about it?
I think the guys who have been in China know more clearly than my post.

jetteroheller




msg:3838494
 7:16 pm on Jan 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

My student just past $250 for January.

His target is $400 for February, and I think, it's possible.

lesunion




msg:3844307
 7:25 am on Feb 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

I think his target is $1000 for February!
Beause I see many people is 1000$ for a month in China

widcater




msg:3845529
 12:46 pm on Feb 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi louiswang,
which city do you live in China? I think that your salary is really small, I am in Chengdu , my salary is $800 and I also make money from Internet (almost $600 per month).I have started to work at GGAD from last month, My target is $300 next for next month!
wish you can find out more method to make money , cos you need to make it for 4 members, good luck!

Yoshimi




msg:3845567
 1:38 pm on Feb 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

louiswang that doesn't actually sound that bad to me; comparred to salaries in the UK, a basic administrator in a large company could expect to earn as little as 14,000 per year, that's 800 per week, from that you would expect to pay 1 loaf of bread, 500 rent (at least that if you have a mortgage too) a denim jacket would start at 20 and petrol is 0.86 a litre. so although the salary is 4 times as high, so are the costs.

[edited by: Yoshimi at 1:39 pm (utc) on Feb. 9, 2009]

jetteroheller




msg:3856380
 6:34 am on Feb 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

On Monday, my student reached first time over $20 a day.

Target for March is $500

The peak doubled from January 1 to February 23

This in a time, where I have myself declining revenues

cgiscripts4u




msg:3856540
 12:13 pm on Feb 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

louiswang that doesn't actually sound that bad to me; comparred to salaries in the UK, a basic administrator in a large company could expect to earn as little as 14,000 per year, that's 800 per week

Yoshimi

I think you have got your figures mixed up. 800/week evaluates to 41600 a year, this is way above the national average for the UK. Rent may be 500/week in London and parts of Home Counties but according to rentright the average rental is currently 580/month ($835 USD/month).

According to National Statistics online the national average as of April 08 was 479/week, thats around 25000/year ($36000USD/Year).

And yes you can pay 1 ($1.44USD) for a loaf of bread, but in the supermarkets you can buy for quite a bit less.

Yoshimi




msg:3856564
 12:39 pm on Feb 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

sorry, that was meant to be around 800 per month, so the 500 rental is monthly.

25,000 may be the mean average, but it is not what the majority of people in the UK are earning, especially when you take into account that the gap between director level and staff level salaries is bigger now then it was in the 1970's. 25,000 is equivilent to a specialist clerical job (think marketing/accounts but not managerial) or a shop manager for instance, minimum wage is I think 5.20 an hour, and there are a lot of people still earning only that, and their supervisors, some who may have decades of experience will only be on 20,000.

My point wasn't to state that the salary wasn't bad, more to try and open a discussion, as the cost to income ratio genuinely didn't seem that bad when viewed in context.

as for 1 for bread, you're right you can buy it from as little as 40p, but looking at mysupermarket most brands are around the 1.00 mark

jetteroheller




msg:3877000
 4:21 pm on Mar 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Summer 2008, I thought his main income should be sales commissions. But this did not work, so we concentrated on AdSense.

This month, hist stats are towards to have at the end first time more than $500

And the first time a sales commission business worked.
2,5% sales comission for a 80.000,-EUR sale.

2000.-EUR, many photos mounting the 80.000,-EUR project for his web site, a valueable reference for having in the future better chances for the next sale.

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