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adsense ads peddling women
swa66




msg:3808365
 4:37 am on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

I just stumbled on a graphical ad on my site featuring
5 images of Asian women
with next to the picture a code (feels like a serial number), their age, weight, height and a city in China.
And a big red "more" button.

My site is about travel (inside the US).

I'm not sure what those women are offered for, but I utterly refuse to be any part in offering these kinds of ads via my site. This is guilt by association even if I don;t have a realistic means of filtering it out.

I've written a complaint to adsense support, but this might very well be the last straw for me, I'll decide in the morning if I'm going to pull adsense or not. I'm a bit too upset right now to make such decisions.

I don't care why it gets on, I don't care what I loose in income, I only want them to make 100% sure these advertisements and advertisers go away, permanently and proactively. If they can't, then adsense might well have to do without me, at least til they have for superior filtering and reporting in place.

It's not like the domainname of the advertiser doesn't provide a clue in it what it is about. It contains the strings "chn" and "love".

This might well be illegal where I live (and where the server is hosted), so not actign isn't an option anyway.

[edited by: incrediBILL at 2:30 am (utc) on Sep. 21, 2009]
[edit reason] clean up [/edit]

 

swa66




msg:3808370
 4:43 am on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

UPDATE: I just got a canned reply stating they can't reply individually to my email.

Sigh.

ken_b




msg:3808371
 4:45 am on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

How about turning off image ads?

Atomic




msg:3808378
 5:01 am on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Paddling women? I hope you mean peddling. Not that there isn't a market for both...

andrewshim




msg:3808388
 5:36 am on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Paddling women? I hope you mean peddling. Not that there isn't a market for both...

Darn Atomic... now you've gone and spilled the beans about two of the best Adsense niches.

stuartmcdonald




msg:3808393
 6:12 am on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

I see a lot of this style advert (asia-related travel site, so i see a lot) -- have been blocking via competitive filter. Wasn't there some talk about Googletron allowing publishers to ban by industry? Then you could ban "dating" which is I assume what this would fall under, paddling would be more tricky though -- outdoor sports perhaps?

IanCP




msg:3808463
 10:18 am on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

but I utterly refuse to be any part in offering these kinds of ads via my site

I'm far from being a puritan but I share your outrage.

ASA? Get on the ball!

ecmedia




msg:3808485
 11:37 am on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

It is an ad for a dating website for Chinese women looking for husbands overseas. Like Russian brides, I see this as a legitimate business (I am not defending this website or the social practice) and they have a right to advertise as it is nothing illegal or improper. Have you ever noticed the ads for dating websites like Match and True? They are way more naughtier.

swa66




msg:3808570
 2:11 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Sorry for the typo in the title.

I'm far from a puritan myself, but quite a few of my visitors are, this is offensive to them (and by extension to me).

Where I live there are quite strict laws against "trade in humans", and advertising like this might well be -in my layman view- illegal out here.

Whether or not a business is legitimate (in some parts of the world) doesn't mean I want to be publicly associated with their industry.

If they start to buy keywords that aren't related to their niche then they are becoming a problem that Google needs to deal with now, promises of potential better *future* filters just don't cut it anymore.

Magazines and newspapers do reserve the right to filter out what they don't want to publish before it gets published, as adsense publishers Google denies us that possibility in every way, shape and form.

Adsense just doesn't bring in enough to justify running risks like this. I'm going to be actively looking for anther way to monetize the site to something that does give me back the full control over what is shown to visitors.

drall




msg:3808594
 2:49 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

We have a very popular childrens section on our website, to our horror we found adult/teen gay chatroom image ads being served in this section luring teens into chatrooms with adults. These ads had practically naked men in disgusting positions.

Hundreds of outraged parents emailed us. We tried to explain that it wasnt our fault and that it was Googles ad serving messing up.

One parent replied back that if the problem is with Googles ad serving and we let it continue then it was OUR fault.

She was right...

We tried blocking them but more and more came in so we just finally removed adsense from this section of our site. Millions of pvs a year loss for Google, not that they will care much im sure.

Jane_Doe




msg:3808679
 4:50 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yeah, they should have a rating system for the ads. I get ads for meeting hot married women, and believe me it doesn't fit in with any of my content.

farmboy




msg:3808700
 5:26 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Someone is selling women? Do they offer refunds?

FarmBoy

AdSenseAdvisor




msg:3808735
 6:14 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm looking into this and will get back to you with whatever information I can safely share.

ASA

swa66




msg:3808985
 10:54 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Thanks in advance ASA!

Case number where you can find details on it's way.

Pepito




msg:3809089
 11:46 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

I got it right now the same ads in my USA section. I have regularly the same stile of ads from Russian, thais, Vietnamese girls.

johnnie




msg:3809090
 11:46 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Are you sure it's not just a dating meet-and-greet kinda site? Have you considered using the preview tool to actually visit the site?

swa66




msg:3809127
 12:37 am on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

I checked the website it's goal seems marriage to women located in china in an international context.

But regardless of what they intend, the ads themselves are offensive to my visitors.
picture + age + measurements + location = they try to sell the women (for unspecified goals/reasons). What do you see specified on e.g. ebay when people sell a car ? Right.
If you have doubts they are selling: from their faq: "You may purchase the lady's address and contact her directly."

Even if it were a plain regular dating service buying ads, it would be way out of line with the rest of my site(s) and with my visitors. I know teachers sometimes use it in their classroom, I'd hate to think what would happen if such an ad popped up there.

Marcia




msg:3809142
 1:21 am on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

it's goal seems marriage

Well, it may seem like the goal is marriage, but my bet is that the goal, on one end, could well be getting green cards.

It might do well for the Legal Dept. (of any company serving ads) to check it all out before INS (Immigration & Nationalization Service) gets wind of this kind of advertising, given the current political climate in the country this year.

annej




msg:3809147
 1:32 am on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm so glad ASA is looking into this. We have got to have a way to stop ads that are inappropriate for our visitors.

stuartmcdonald




msg:3809151
 1:37 am on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

@marcia These ads are not just targetted at US readers -- you'll see them geotargetted to most western countries.

As with OP I'd prefer not to see this style ad on my site(s), but be it paddling women, flogging dodgy credit cards or promoting this or that political party -- if Adwords is going to accept adverts that could be perceived as controversial, there should be a means for publishers to opt out on an per-industry basis.

farmboy




msg:3809164
 1:57 am on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

...if Adwords is going to accept adverts that could be perceived as controversial, there should be a means for publishers to opt out on an per-industry basis.

I don't like inappropriate ads on my site any better than anyone else, but for almost any ad that appears on AdSense you can find someone who will find it controversial or offensive and someone who doesn't care.

I don't know how Google is going to accomplish the above without allowing publishers to pre-approve every single ad that will appear on a site or implement some type of advanced filtering system that has been discussed. I doubt either of those are going to happen anytime soon.

FarmBoy

johnnie




msg:3809405
 11:38 am on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

Maybe the user should be able to vote ads up and down the list via a simple 'like'/'dislike' or +/- button?

Jane_Doe




msg:3809619
 4:55 pm on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

I doubt either of those are going to happen anytime soon.

I'm having a hard time believing that they aren't taking care of the ads where the display URL is some famous clinic, magazine, web site, person, etc. and then the actual link goes to a spam site. Sooner or later one of those famous entities is going get their lawyers on it. It seems like that would be a simple code check to have the display and link URLs the same and would avoid some major legal trouble down the line.

farmboy




msg:3809630
 5:17 pm on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm having a hard time believing that they aren't taking care of the ads where ...

I agree Jane_Doe, but as reflected in a number of threads here lately, a number of people are having a hard time believing they aren't taking care of a number of things.

FarmBoy

newborn




msg:3809978
 1:16 am on Dec 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Guys really, if someone is paying then I will run it, are you guys assuming that if your website is about fried chicken, then people who eat fried chicken does not want to meet russian women.

Adwords can't discriminate images unless they display nudity or even suggest nudity. What you need to do is treat it like text ads, check the adsense preview tool to see either on labanol or elsewhere.

Heres what Im concerned about, being paid before the 25th of December, I have a lot of flying monkeys to buy! - ASA those who are paid via Direct Deposit normally get paid by the 25th, try and see if we can get paid before.....

grelmar




msg:3810038
 2:33 am on Dec 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Basically, this comes down to an outsourcing issue.

When you outsource your tech support, you place the burden of quality control on the outsourced company, but pay the price in lost customers if that quality doesn't meet with your customer's expectations.

When you outsource your ad placement to Google, it's the same thing. You trade off the work involved in maintaining your own advertising management, in return for putting up with Google's quality control.

If Adsense doesn't meet your quality control needs, then you have to pull that resource back in house.

Pulling it in house means more work for publishers, and possibly lost revenue. You just have to determine whether the quality control issues are worth it to you and your site in the long run.

As long as we (and I include me, because I use Adsense as well) continue to use Adsense, then we have to accept Google's quality control. We can complain about it, and hopefully Google will respond.

Realistically, though, Google has become the Elephant in the Room of online advertising. I doubt if they're worried about offending a few people. We all played a part in making that happen.

Alcoholico




msg:3810059
 3:36 am on Dec 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Given the fact that the preview tool never shows all ads targeted to a page (at least for me), it occurs to me that all ads including image ads should contain the offending url so they can be blocked via the competitive filter.

Ganceann




msg:3810101
 5:16 am on Dec 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Maybe the user should be able to vote ads up and down the list via a simple 'like'/'dislike' or +/- button?

Rather than having webmasters vote on whether they like or dislike ads... it would be better if they chose ads as either appropriate or inappropiate to the target audience.

Google would then be able to display only the ads that were deemed appropriate.

A further step would be adding a 3rd option of "undecided", which Google would also be able to display, especially if there were very few appropriate ads. However, such a system puts webmasters in control over what ads could be potentially viewed on their sites and Google would never give that level of control to webmasters.

annej




msg:3810180
 6:38 am on Dec 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

OK, My site is about 'widgeting'. A great many problems would be solved if AdSense only showed ads related to widgeting.

Not only would it eliminate inappropriate ads but also mis-targeted ads. I get a lot of those where Google picks up on words that can also refer to something unrelated to widgeting.

stuartmcdonald




msg:3810191
 6:54 am on Dec 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Wouldn't a simple solution be for Adwords users be required to categorise their ads and then, on the same basis Adsense publishers be able to opt out of the same list of categories.

Sure there would be some category-overlap, and no doubt some adwords advertisers would intentionally miss-categorise their ads, but just talking broad strokes here.

Then all one need do is opt out of "dating".

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