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ASA: What are theTop 5 Publisher Requests?
Bddmed

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 10:37 pm on Nov 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

From another thread here: [webmasterworld.com...]

I'll make you a deal: if you all, the members of the AdSense WebmasterWorld forum, can agree on your top 5 asks in order of priority, I will personally email the Director of Product Management for all AdSense products with your list.

So lets get it started.

 

robzilla

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 9:52 pm on Jan 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

Simply for the sake of finally just having a top 5, here's a quick compilation based on all that has been posted in this thread.

Top 5 Adsense Publisher Requests

  • 1. Minimum CPC
  • 2. More channels
  • 3. Block ads by keyword
  • 4. Bigger competitive filter
  • 5. Smart pricing information

Obviously, this is very much a simplified list. Wading through the noise in this thread, I've come across many good ideas on, for example, improving the filter and blocking advertisers more effectively, as well as good arguments against a minimum CPC, which I tend to agree with personally. I don't have the time to make a thorough, detailed list, nor do I see it as my task. Hope it helps, nonetheless.

AdSenseAdvisor

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 2:36 am on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

A little while ago ASA indicated that he/she would take our most popular requests to the powers that be at Mountain View. If I recall correctly there was even some suggestion about the comp. ad filter getting fixed or improved slightly(or was I dreaming?)
Has ASA relayed anything back to us on that?

You might be thinking of the AdSense blog post about filtering, which I did not write, but which I am happy to talk about.

Not "made a case" or couldn't reach a consensus on request priority?
I would not be surprised if it was the latter, however for ASA to say that we haven't made a case for some of our most talked about requests is absurd.

I never said I wouldn’t pass along all of your requests no matter what. In fact, a lot of people have gotten the long lists of all the issues surfaced already.

What I said specifically about choosing a top 5 was that if you could prioritize them as a group and come to a consensus, I will personally bring your list to the Director of Product Management in charge of all AdSense and publisher products. That offer still stands.

The long list is informative and very useful for the many people here who care what you think. And I don’t want you to think that not reaching a consensus means the conversation wasn’t incredibly valuable. But only a prioritized list of the whole group’s top 5 gets you my personal assurance that one specific person who makes a lot of important decisions will read it.

ASA

ArtistMike



 
Msg#: 3790002 posted 7:00 am on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Well, I guess you have your top five list in the message from "Robzilla". The ball is in your court.

jchampliaud

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 12:19 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Well, I guess you have your top five list in the message from "Robzilla". The ball is in your court.

I'll second that. The list Robzilla posted is fine.

davec

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 1:18 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Yep, I'm happy with that list. I'm sure some people won't be but surely better to try and get something agreed and taken to someone higher up.

ezitis

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 2:41 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

robzilla list is what we all want

vero

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 2:42 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Thanks Robzilla for taking the time to do this - good summary. And thanks ASA

dauction

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 2:46 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

The single most important feature would be allowing Publishers the ability to INVITE specific advertisers.

You can do away with more blocking of ads and competitive ad filter simply by replacing the junk ads ..with ads from advertisers YOU have invited

Instead of blocking blocking blocking..allow us to simply have the advertisers we want on our sites..via invites

Now that doesn't mean that the advertiser will want to advertise and they can decline..just that we have the ability to actually send out the invite via adsense

I'm tired of blocking..I want to invite not block

If I can a fill my ad spaces with advertisers that I want on my site then I don't need to even mess with ad filters, blocking

The new feature could be separate from adsense for content

Same ad formats etc..just separate

Like adsense for content , adsense for domains ,. adsense for rss , adsense for mobile

This for be adsense for invites

Pepito

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 2:53 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I back Robzilla´s list.

netmeg

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 3:10 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Seems like we've got as much as a consensus as it's possible to get without a clear voting system.

dauction

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 3:29 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

So no one wants the ability to actually invite specific advertisers? (staying within the adsense program) Aren't you tired of banning and blocking and all that nonsense?

5 is just a number thats all it is ..I'm sure Google is nimble enough to consider a 6th request as well

dauction

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 3:38 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I am envisioning through adsense being able to offer for example a 160x600 Skyscraper to 1 Advertiser !

They can own the entire ad space for a set price or a cpc price ..for a premium either way.

A formula that stablizes my income , that ensures the advertiser targeted traffic without competition for the ad space and ensures Google the same or more income for selling these premium spaces

and the junk ads are gone !

You could still run the regular adsense for content on other areas of your pages if you wanted but your premium ad space on your pages could be sold to high quality advertisers YOU want

ken_b

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 3:42 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'll go with Robzilla's list too.

dauction

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 3:43 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

These are YOUR websites..Your Companies You should have more say in who is advertising .

Quality matters on my site ..I dont want all the junk ads and don't have the time or skills to market the ad space to the quality advertisers I am looking at.

I love Google running that aspect .. just give me more control via Invites over who advertisers ..instead of trying to block the junk

robzilla

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 3:52 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Pardon my bluntness, dauction, but you're just adding more noise, with 5 to 10 minute pauses. Consider opening a new topic if you want to discuss your idea on inviting advertisers to see if it holds ground, but let's stick to the idea of a top 5 in this thread. To be honest, considering the votes and suggestions made in this thread, what you're proposing wouldn't even enter the top 10. The requests that are in the top 5 are obviously in (much) higher demand.

dauction

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 4:04 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Pardon my bluntness . more banning , more blocking is nonsense

I'm shocked that people don't have the common sense that to get rid of the JUNK can be done far more efficiently by actually being able to CHOOSE who advertises on your site.

To be honest we dont need 100 idiots with the same mornic ideas ..we need people with common sense that are looking for quality advertisers instead of dinking around with the junk advertisers all day long

dauction

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 4:06 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Again Robo.. 5 Ideas ..big deal it's a freaking number .. pass along 6 Ideas..I think Google can handle that even you are are unable to

dauction

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 4:11 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Everyone is trying to get rid of junk advertisers..everyone is trying to increase their income ..everyone wants quality advertisers

and yet no one wants the ability to actually INVITE those quality advertisers..!?

What the H is wrong with people ? Turn on the light bulb people

Excuse my passion for actually wanting to decide who advertises on my website via adsense

signor_john



 
Msg#: 3790002 posted 4:16 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'm shocked that people don't have the common sense that to get rid of the JUNK can be done far more efficiently by actually being able to CHOOSE who advertises on your site.

You're talking about a completely different type of network. To use netmeg's oft-repeated phrase, "AdSense is what it is," and it's unrealistic to expect Google to turn it into something else entirely. How would Google and its customers (a.k.a. paying advertisers) benefit by ceding control over ad placement to publishers?

dauction

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 4:19 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Tell me how stupid I am for actually trying to get to the quality advertisers by actually inviting them instead of through the process of banning the junk through ad filters etc..

Alright I am done..

Have at it

ASA can we have an ad filter that can handle millons.. I have nothing better to do with my time than adding junk to filters and would love to have the biggest filter Google can give us

I'm really a nice person..just amazed and wound up that I cant invite who I want to advertise without going outside of adsense

You guys can have your thread back and your "filters"

zett

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 4:30 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

dauction:

Puh-leaze. Where is the point in eight posts on the ability to ínvite advertisers? I agree with robzilla on this.

His list works for me, too, at least in general.

(Though, instead of just "block by keyword" I'd rather like to see a variety of blocking opportunities, e.g. by keyword, by target URL or parts thereof, by advertiser. But yeah, block by keyword would be a good start.)

dauction

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 4:31 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

signor john..

Extremely simple to add a adsense for invites

Google isn't ceding control Google would be selling premium space at a premium ..

Google would make more $$$ per ad placement as would the publisher and the advertiser would make more sales via the better quality traffic

Adwords Advertiser receives a Note that xyz publisher has extended and invite for ad placement ..

Advertiser can view site and possible placement scenerios and place a bid ..

Publisher accepts bid and grabs the adsense code ..
not difficult at all

99% of advertisers arent going to bother working outside google for those placements because the simplicity , the tracking etc..

You still have "regular" asdsense for content

icedowl

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 4:39 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Count me as another who agrees with Robzilla's list.

dauction

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 4:42 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Well I surrender.. Everyone prefers blocking the junk instead of just by passing the junk

God forbid we could actually decide who advertises on our sites under adsense

farmboy

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 7:16 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

So no one wants the ability to actually invite specific advertisers? (staying within the adsense program)

When Google implemented the "Advertise on this Site" feature publishers soon realized it was misleading to potential advertisers as it really was aimed at getting new AdWords customers, not an effort to generate new ads for the site displaying the link. It flopped.

The idea of being able to invite advertisers is interesting, but I don't have much confidence in the implementation actually accomplishing the desired goal.

---------

I think we're being manipulated a bit here with this prioritization exercise, but it is what it is.

I agree with Robzilla's list and I appreciate him taking the time.

FarmBoy

koan

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 8:20 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

God forbid we could actually decide who advertises on our sites under adsense

Interesting idea but one post would have sufficed, no need to spam the thread with 12 posts saying the same thing. The whole point of this thread is to get popular consensus for 5 major requests. We all have our other wishes that are not in that top 5 list and aren't in other people's radar, but we don't ask for special treatment, or react like a 10 year old not getting his way.

sonjay

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 9:23 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

robzilla's list works for me. If we got even 1 or 2 of those, I'd be happy.

leadegroot

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 9:51 pm on Jan 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

dauction, you have a perfectly valid suggestion, but we're on page 16 of a thread attempting to get a consensus of 5 items.
You've just come in a little late.
Leave it a month and come back and re-suggest in a new thread :)

robzilla's list works for me too.

Freedom

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 12:50 am on Jan 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

My number 1 request is to leave everything alone. Stop tweaking AdSense. Stop micromanaging it. Stop adding new things. No more of these "good ideas" to justify your position at Google.

Just leave it alone. You make it worse when you do stuff.

A Google laissez faire.

nickreynolds

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Msg#: 3790002 posted 5:18 pm on Jan 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

Good job robzilla

signor_john



 
Msg#: 3790002 posted 6:31 pm on Jan 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

I agree that robzilla has done a nice job of filtering out the noise and focusing on the top requests.

However, I also tend to agree with Freedom's comment about "just leav[ing] it alone"--not because I'm opposed to choice per se, but because having a zillion options and opportunities for tweaking is likely to result in two things:

1) Disappointment for publishers who think they can tweak their way out of bigger problems (such as an uncommercial topic or a click-shy audience); and...

2) An implicit blessing of the "made-for-AdSense" mindset that's all too prevalent here and across the Web.

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