| 8:27 pm on Oct 22, 2008 (gmt 0)|
it's about time...I've only been complaining about this for a year now.
| 8:56 pm on Oct 22, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Well then, instead of complaining about having had to complain about this for a year, be extra excited :-) I'm looking forward to poking around in it. Hope there's some historical data!
| 7:31 pm on Oct 22, 2008 (gmt 0)|
System: The following 5 messages were spliced on to this thread from: http://www.webmasterworld.com/google_adsense/3771570.htm [webmasterworld.com] by martinibuster - 4:43 pm on Oct. 22, 2008 (utc -8)
In general i think this is great news, but can anyone think of reasons not to integrate.
we already have adsense and analytics on our pages. so, in theory, they already have massive amounts of data from our sites, but i worry that by agreeing to upgrade we also supercede the EULAs for adsense and analytics.
in short, does this give them the right to use even more of our data?
[edited by: martinibuster at 12:43 am (utc) on Oct. 23, 2008]
[edit reason] housekeeping. [/edit]
| 7:58 pm on Oct 22, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Yay! I'm sooo looking forward to this. It'll take some of the guesswork out of making a living. URL channels weren't really cutting it for me.
|in short, does this give them the right to use even more of our data? |
Sometimes you have to make a sacrifice or two to receive some useful benefits. They can do what they like with my data, nothing to hide and if it helps me streamline my income then I'm all for it.
| 10:09 pm on Oct 22, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|they already have massive amounts of data from our sites |
I don't see how integrating those two services would provide them data that they don't already have if you are already using both analytics and adsense on your site.
Anyway this is great news and I'm just glad the rumor I posted panned out to be true, I was starting to wonder.
| 11:31 pm on Oct 22, 2008 (gmt 0)|
for the record, i dont have anything to hide from google, just want to look before we leap and make an informed decision.
| 12:37 am on Oct 23, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|for the record, i dont have anything to hide from google, just want to look before we leap and make an informed decision. |
Sorry, wasn't implying anything. It's just that I know a few "Google paranoid" people that assume Google are always up to no good.
| 4:32 am on Oct 23, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I put Analytics and Adsense on the page at the same time to save the trouble (yes, I have to do it manually still for a lot of my pages.) "Global Search and Replace" has become my friend as I can do a few hundred pages at a time if they are in the same area (only for special events.)
Will the Analytics data line up with the Adsense data more closely? Adsense always seems to be a day in front for some reason.
| 10:37 am on Oct 23, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Knowing all Google login problems, am I the only cynic in here who sees a lot of grief waiting for those who try to integrate an Adsense and GA account that use different email addresses? ;)
| 2:12 pm on Oct 23, 2008 (gmt 0)|
oddsod, yes...don't use different email addresses. Yikes! Change your email for the login before integrating..
| 2:52 pm on Oct 23, 2008 (gmt 0)|
You could cause an explosion at the plex that disrupts space/time!
| 3:44 pm on Oct 23, 2008 (gmt 0)|
The only thing I have against Analytics is the load time, it is actually noticeable sometimes.
| 4:47 pm on Oct 23, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Anyone actually received an invitation to integrate yet?
| 11:25 pm on Oct 23, 2008 (gmt 0)|
It was strange that Adsense encouraged me to use my Google Account login and Analytics let me barrel on with a different email. It caused problems when I tried to login without logging out of the other one first.
| 1:14 am on Oct 24, 2008 (gmt 0)|
No invitation here yet.
| 3:05 am on Oct 24, 2008 (gmt 0)|
for those that have got in, is historical information available?
| 3:19 am on Oct 24, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Load time: Really, Hugene? I noticed this when they first offered Analytics, and removed it from my site because of this. But I've had it back on my site for months now, and I never notice a slow-down because of it.
| 5:04 am on Oct 24, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Yes, I do sometimes have delays in loading the AdSense/Analytics code when I am going through checking pages. As I add the code the same way to all my pages, I only need to check one or two as if one is not working they are all broken in the same way.
| 9:10 am on Oct 24, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Just popped into my head that this finally also enables to easily view graphs of Adsense earnings. Kind of a doh moment, I realize that; I guess it hadn't sunk in yet. It should be a standard feature within Adsense, but this will do just as well :-)
| 2:39 pm on Oct 24, 2008 (gmt 0)|
When Analytics first came out, they wanted the script in the <head> tags, and it was dog slow, so I took it out of everything. After that, they said you could add it to the bottom of the page, and it did speed up noticeably. That said - I occasionally do notice a lag time on some of my larger client sites where everything's loaded but we're still waiting for the GA code, and I've seen the same thing on other large sites around the net. It's better than it was, but it ain't perfect yet.
| 9:33 pm on Oct 24, 2008 (gmt 0)|
If only I could past my G paranoia.
Of course too much information is not always a good thing for webmasters like me. I would probably spend countless weeks agonizing over new stats while ignoring to grow the content and feature offerings on my site.
Then I would make a ton of changes only to resort back to my original code base weeks later and move on. ;-)
| 1:20 pm on Oct 25, 2008 (gmt 0)|
A second request to a Google Analytics server is redundant. Google Analytics is redundant.
[edited by: true_INFP at 1:33 pm (utc) on Oct. 25, 2008]
| 2:02 pm on Oct 25, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Not all publishers run Adsense code on all pages of their site. So technically it is not redundant.
Adsense alone cannot see the users page flow leading up to an Adsense page. Analytics can. Whether this is helpful is up to each publisher. But they definitely cover different spectrums of pages on most sites.
| 2:28 pm on Oct 25, 2008 (gmt 0)|
You're right, but if all pages of the site contain AdSense, then any additional requests to an Analytics server increase the time the visitor sees the page as "Still Loading"...
For those of you who need "funnels" for AdSense-less pages, Google should let you integrate Analytics and AdSense. I just say it's not only redundant for me, but it also slows my site down.
[edited by: true_INFP at 2:30 pm (utc) on Oct. 25, 2008]
| 6:46 pm on Oct 25, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Agreed. If you are running Adsense on every page, Google should be smart enough to not require the Analytics code.
I've seen them do something like this with two other products. I can't seem to remember. It was something to do with Google Checkout and Adwords, or Checkout and Analytics.
I was talking with a G engineer about a problem we were having, and he mentioned we should not be including both script tags on the page, just one with a parameter that tells the script to include the other.
So they are getting to this point I think... but apparently not in this case yet.
| 10:08 am on Oct 26, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|So they are getting to this point I think... |
That's good news.
| 1:47 pm on Oct 26, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Still anxiously awaiting having this rolled out to my account... Anyone else have it added yet?
| 3:23 am on Oct 27, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I am waiting also ... After an announcement so exciting like that, they should tell us what is their deployment "length". I've been waiting for something like that for years.
| 4:00 am on Oct 27, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I have not seen it in my account either. Anyone?
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