| 3:23 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I am seeing dramatic drop in EPC.. and slow updates for last 3 days.. maybe I have been smart priced ..
| 3:48 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Like I posted yesterday this stuck thing is becoming a pattern. Either their work load increased or there are fewer people available but they are just letting things go and consider this real-time reporting less important.
Well, the unfortunate reality is that we are not very important to them or they would communicate with us. We're being ignored and there are only two alternatives, like it or lump it.
I am being solicited by advertisers who do treat me courteously and their offers are beginning to look a lot more attractive. AdSense does have its advantages but these seem to be wearing thin. OTOH the business climate in general is deteriorating and this is the devil we know.
I'll be hanging in there for now but Google's contempt for me(silence) and my problems do weigh heavily as other advertisers come calling.
| 5:46 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Geezopete - do you all have any idea how big the AdSense system, or how many calculations and algorithms and whatnot have to go into it (both AdWords AND AdSense) to get everyone their accurate numbers? To me it's a modern miracle to get same day stats as it is, let alone updated within hours. Many much smaller advertisers and affiliates can't do that.
We're all just spoiled is all.
| 6:01 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Just see also my stats stuck, practicall no change in the last 2 hours
| 6:10 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Same here, stuck for about 2 hours now
| 6:46 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|We're all just spoiled is all. |
Yes, exactly. We've been spoiled by mediocre service and now that it has deteriorated to abysmal service we should expect that it will further deteriorate to no service at all.
I would have no complaint if I hadn't been promised real-time updates. If they want to eliminate real-time updates they should announce that and do so and just post results at the end of the day. But as of now they are reneging on their promise to me.
I know how unreasonable it is to expect Google to deliver what they promise, but I'm just old fashioned that way.
| 7:16 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|I would have no complaint if I hadn't been promised real-time updates. |
Can you point me to a link with that info? Or is this an exclusive deal with you.
| 7:36 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|Or is this an exclusive deal with you. |
No, it was never promised as literally "real-time," it was promised as "frequent updates" during the day. No link to this promise exists today for rather obvious reasons, they are no longer frequent.
For years the service was much better than it is now. But what actually irritates me is their silent omnipotence. If they would occasionally let us know what was going on I wouldn't inveigh against them this way.
[edited by: OnlyToday at 7:41 pm (utc) on Sep. 9, 2008]
| 7:56 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
It may be just me. But at the end of the day I think what counts is your bottom line. Not CTR or CPC nor the amount of times you get updated stats during the day.
| 7:56 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Really? I don't recall ever being promised any such thing; I can't even recall that it was advertised as a feature (it's been years and years since I signed up), but if you don't mind, please tell us where and how you were promised that?
| 7:57 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|Can you point me to a link with that info? |
They did actually officially announce that 2-3 years ago however they then rescinded it to "frequent updates" about a year or so later.
The reality is that "stats stuck" seems to be a near daily occurence these days. I don't worry about it UNLESS it gets to 3-5 hours then it's posting time to make sure it's just not me!
| 8:12 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|But at the end of the day I think what counts is your bottom line. |
Absolutely. If I didn't feel like I were constantly being chisled by AdSense these stats stuck episodes would roll off like water on a duck's back. Actually I feel I've been jerked around on the search side too and I think I unfairly hold some of that against AdSense.
In any case it is the lack of an alternative that causes me to feel this way.
| 9:30 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I hope there is a lag.
I have only seen trickles coming in. I am 50% down on CTR for content and approx 40% below for search.
Yet, I have had an increase of about 3000 visitors a day for the last few days.
For me, theres either a lag, or my site has a lot of non-clickers all of a sudden.
Yesterday, I had over 4000 more people than usual, yet ended up with less money than if I had my normal 5k per day visiting.
| 9:31 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
What's so difficult about Google putting a Sticky at login saying reporting is delayed?
| 9:38 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|What's so difficult about Google putting a Sticky at login saying reporting is delayed? |
actually, i think a timestamp would be best. something like "the data shown in this report is based on data up to 9:23 pst"
this would probably end all the "is your reporting stuck" threads.
| 9:43 pm on Sep 9, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|actually, i think a timestamp would be best. something like "the data shown in this report is based on data up to 9:23 pst" |
I totally agree.
| 3:04 am on Sep 10, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Do you think there could be a link with the intended google policy to limit the number of time the same ad is shown to a visitor across sites within google ad network?
Maybe they are testing?
| 3:28 pm on Sep 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|Absolutely. If I didn't feel like I were constantly being chisled by AdSense these stats stuck episodes would roll off like water on a duck's back. |
OK, so it is possible that these suspect fluctuations are actually caused by delays in their assesment process and that the over all average (irrespective of the non-correlation with my server stats) is an honest result.
But the current reporting gives the appearance of dishonesty on their part and if it appears that way to me, others are surely perceiving this as well.
So, a tiny disclaimer on the stats could smooth this over.
| 3:55 pm on Sep 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I'm sure they aren't being dishonest, but I do know what you mean. If I were dealing with a company that I suspected of fiddling the books I'd have all the evidence I needed to convince myself.
The stuck stats are surely a delay in processing.
But the wider issue of stats stuck for a few days at a time - I reckon that's either testing gone bad or an advertiser that has got the better of them.
| 4:38 pm on Sep 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|I'm sure they aren't being dishonest... |
I understand the temptation to attribute God-like qualities to the folks over at Google, but it is wise to remember that they are like us, just human beings who cringe and writhe when their quarterly earnings and their stock price falls.
I absolutely guarantee that within that huge organization someone somewhere has figured out a way to cheat and has figured out a way to implement it. That's not evil, that's human nature. Deal with it.
I like Google, I have long been a Google promoter and booster, I think their hearts are in the right place.
But don't ever forget that they are just many unique human beings.
| 7:08 pm on Sep 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
The following 3 messages were cut out to new thread by martinibuster. New thread at: google_adsense/3743897.htm [webmasterworld.com]
2:33 pm on Sep. 12, 2008 (utc -8)