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Am I Receiving correct percentage of AdWords Spend ...25%?
mkingsle

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 7:28 pm on Aug 30, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi Everyone:

I know this has probably been asked before, but I need some current thoughts on the matter. I have a website running adsense and it currently pays me $.25 per click. I know for a fact that advertisers are paying over $1.00 on Adwords.

My question is whether or not my cut is the correct percentage that i should be receiving...25%?

My concern is that I have a few other websites and am concerned that maybe I am being limited by the less performing websites.

Your thoughts are appreciated.

 

StoutFiles

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 8:30 pm on Aug 30, 2008 (gmt 0)

My question is whether or not my cut is the correct percentage that i should be receiving...25%?

Sorry to say, but that sounds about right. You're always welcome to discuss it with Google though! Let us know how it goes!

martinibuster

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 8:36 pm on Aug 30, 2008 (gmt 0)

>>>I know for a fact that advertisers are paying over $1.00 on Adwords.

You do not know for a fact. There is much that you do not know. You do not have the data to make any assumption at all about how much your percentage is. The issue here is you (and everyone else) are in the dark about actual percentages far more than you realize. I will explain why. ;)

1. The over $1.00 you cited is the highest bid, not necessarily what advertisers are actually paying. In fact, the bid on AdWords for Search can be as high as four dollars per click but the actual CPC can be as little as thirty cents.

2. You likely have an estimate for what the highest bid on AdWords for Search may be. You may not have an estimate for what bidding is for AdWords for Content.

3. On both sections (Search and Content) there are myriad factors affecting how much each CPC is. You absolutely can not know for a fact how much the advertisers are paying per click.

4. To make sure it's understood how in the dark publishers are, the fact is that publishers can not know who all the advertisers are that Google is cycling through their sites. Even much less know what they are paying, and even less to be able to guess what the cut is.

There have been statements leading to speculation that our percentage is somewhere around 70+%, but publishers can't really know.

[edited by: martinibuster at 9:35 pm (utc) on Aug. 30, 2008]

Khensu

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 9:24 pm on Aug 30, 2008 (gmt 0)

25 cents is good!

You should concentrate on increasing your traffic and stop wondering what your percentage of the cut is, it is irrelevant. What is concrete is the money entering you wallet and 4/$1 is quite average for a quality site in a good niche.

Oh Yeah, ditto what Martini said. It's a big guessing game for publishers, just the nature of the Beast.

[edited by: Khensu at 9:25 pm (utc) on Aug. 30, 2008]

nomis5

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 6:55 am on Aug 31, 2008 (gmt 0)

Around 70% is what the audited accounts support. But some will get a greater %ge and others a lower %ge.

mkingsle

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 12:36 pm on Aug 31, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi again:

Just to reply, I am most concerned about gaining more traffic and building a quality site. One concern I have is "smart price", since I have multiple sites and some are not converting well.

I do know for a fact that top advertisers, those wishing to be in the top three, are paying around $1.25. I use to have a Google Adwords account for this particular topic, and know the averages for this particular keyword. I also know that other factors play into placement and CPC is not the ultimate in placement, but averages do have to come into play here.

The reason I was asking was again over my concern of the "smart price" effect and also that I have read, as probably many have read, that Google pays out as much as 70% to publishers.

My theory is that many if I get rid of the advertising on my low performing sites until traffic increases, then I might see an increase in my better performing sites, i.e. from 25% to 50%. I am going to experiment with it and post my results. I know that Google reevaluates its "smart price" weekly, so we'll see what happens.

Thanks

incrediBILL

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 11:12 pm on Aug 31, 2008 (gmt 0)

I smell $0.01 clicks coming real soon.

purplecape

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 3:08 am on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Do you know for a fact that those top advertisers are paying $1.25 for clicks ON YOUR SITE in particular?

No.

BillyS

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 1:20 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

There are lots of threads here discussing the share publishers make. EuropeforVisitors was constantly pointing out this share was over 70%.

Khensu

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 5:52 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Bill what is that?

The smell of cheap roses?

Or waking up to the smell of Walmart coffee?

BillyS

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Msg#: 3735128 posted 2:16 am on Sep 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

The OP is wondering if 25% is the right share of a publisher's cut of Adwords spend. The value is closer to 80%. Premium publishers will likely get a better deal, but 25% is not even close.

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