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Stats Stuck Weds June 11, 2008 ?
hal12b




msg:3672418
 7:28 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Is anybody besides myself experiencing very low stats today?

 

Freedom




msg:3672420
 7:37 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yes, they seem way off for this time of day.

HuskyPup




msg:3672430
 7:46 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

I certainly hope so, my metrics are pathetic...again:-(

purplecape




msg:3672448
 8:19 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Not stuck, but slow... Perhaps someone dropped some chewing gum in the AdSense gears? I've noticed that the machinery isn't running as smoothly of late.

netmeg




msg:3672461
 8:39 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Best day of the week for me.

hal12b




msg:3672477
 9:06 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

This is definitely pathetic. Something is definitely wrong.

Play_Bach




msg:3672490
 9:24 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

> Best day of the week for me.

Yup. Better than usual, at this rate might actually have a decent day.

andrewshim




msg:3672511
 10:13 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

ain't no mountain high enough,
ain't no valley low enough,
to compare with my fluctuating adsense stats.

right now, it's a slow snail stuck on sandpaper.

netmeg




msg:3672519
 10:28 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Actually, now that I look at it, it does look like it's been stuck the past couple hours - impressions are going up, but not clicks.

Powdork




msg:3672543
 10:55 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

i've been following this thread because my impression also were going up, but my ctr had fallen below .004, which is ridiculous. There has since been a dump of clicks, and things are approaching normal.

fredw




msg:3672555
 11:10 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

With these "stats stuck?" threads popping up almost daily, is it perhaps time to start to consider that Adsense stats are generally no longer "real time" they way we assumed they used to be?

If so, is it possible this change started to take place around the same time that reports in the Adsense console started to no longer simply display, but you to have to watch a little throbber before they finally come up?

purplecape




msg:3672615
 1:18 am on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

fred, I don't know that there's necessarily a connection to the little "just a moment" animation, but I think you are onto something.

In the past, the times when my stats did NOT update hourly were few and far between (Yes, I know, I check far too often). I assumed that when they didn't, there was some kind of problem, or maintenance, or audit happening, and a click dump would follow.

Now, the delays and stuck times seem more frequent, and less predictable. Some go on for a while. Others don't. Some seem to shift clicks to a following day. Others don't.

<speculation>Google is building in a random delay element to make reverse engineering of how the system works more difficult. </speculation>

Or it could just be random variation....

Lame_Wolf




msg:3672697
 4:03 am on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

<speculation>Google is building in a random delay element to make reverse engineering of how the system works more difficult. </speculation>

How else do you think Sergey is going to pay for his $5m space flight ?
By delaying stats he earns extra dosh. ;-)

zett




msg:3672719
 5:06 am on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Google is building in a random delay element to make reverse engineering of how the system works more difficult.

Yep. Evil, but possible.

I do believe that someone using a Google service will not get the same service (or service quality, in this case) as another person using the same service at virtually the same time. This is definitely true for SERPs (where we see a geographical variance at least) and Adsense (where even the same ads seem to pay differently). So why not also for statistics, or the delayed access to them?

AFAIK, the stats were never real "real time", and clicks and the revenue updated at different times - which could be an evidence for Google determining the EPC based upon the click itself, or other criteria (e.g. revenue the publisher has generated today, this week, this month, whatever).

By adding an extra delay randomly they make it even more difficult to compare results.

Did I mention that I believe that it is time for a suitable competitor to Google? Microsoft?

Scurramunga




msg:3672723
 5:36 am on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

How else do you think Sergey is going to pay for his $5m space flight ?

Wow, he's going on a space flight? I'd delay the stats too if I were him.

netmeg




msg:3672905
 11:23 am on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

If you figure the constantly evolving algorithms for determining click fraud, not to mention adwords quality score and adsense smartpricing, times the number of sites participating at every level in adsense (including domain parking, which isn't strictly adsense but depends on adwords) - even for google, that's a whole lotta number crunching. It's almost a wonder we can get same-day stats (if indeed we do) as it is.

solidcore




msg:3672976
 1:04 pm on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Im finding my stats dont come up at all watching the loading, and the only way to see them is hte overview.

So they've broken my account on the reports page

HuskyPup




msg:3672997
 1:26 pm on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have been monitoring my metrics whenever we have a stats stuck issue and I can honestly state that 90% of the time my earnings tank for that day and only occasionally does the following day make up for it.

Yesterday my CTR was it's worst ever, down 35% compared to the year and month's average. My earnings on one of my two busiest days of the week were not even as much as a normal weekend day.

My EPC compared to the first 10 days of June was down an amazing 11.25%.

Something is evidently wrong somewhere and some of us are paying the penalty for these on-going issues. If this continues for more than a couple of days then AdSense will be removed since I have other advertisers willing to take its place.

netmeg




msg:3673056
 2:31 pm on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'd remove it if I were you and having that many problems, HP.

This is the second day in a row when I had a big click dump in the morning (almost at the exact same time!) when my normal traffic/impressions are low; while the past two afternoon and evenings my traffic/impressions were through the roof, and few clicks accrued. It's only been two days, but it sure looks like they're updating me the next day for the previous day's activity.

Or else I don't understand my users and their clicking behavior at all, which is of course, entirely possible.

drall




msg:3673069
 2:43 pm on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

My page impressions and clicks are moving along today but revenue hasnt moved in 6 hours, crazy stats lag lately.

TammyJo




msg:3673100
 3:00 pm on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

June 12, 2008

Seems there is a lag in rev. stats, but other aspects seem on target.

netmeg




msg:3673105
 3:01 pm on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Nothing to say everyone has to be on the same schedule, is there?

prfb




msg:3673111
 3:09 pm on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

> Best day of the week for me.

Yesterday rocked for us too - 3x the past month's daily average. And this morning's looking good too. Perhaps, rather than (just) a reporting lag, they tweaked how they're selecting which ads for which pages?

Or it's just random variation and we'll see a reversion to mean over time. The big d20 in the sky.

J_Evans




msg:3673246
 5:29 pm on Jun 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

I don't understand the pattern of my website. I will have some average days, a couple of what I call better than average, then the bottom falls our completely and nothing or very little for a day or so then back to average. I would not think that there would be such a drastic change but that is what happens it seems about once or twice a month. I guess if I got my traffic up then I would not see such a drastic change or maybe I would.

HuskyPup




msg:3673576
 12:42 am on Jun 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

Errr...here we go again?

Page impressions up a bit however clicks for me nearly at a standstill.

This is becoming preposterous, it's a daily occurrence!

Lame_Wolf




msg:3673582
 12:52 am on Jun 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

Wow, he's going on a space flight? I'd delay the stats too if I were him.

Yes, it was reported on the BBC news website at the time.

drall




msg:3673652
 2:43 am on Jun 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

I dont know, my stats are all good except revenue is off by 40% across our whole network. Yesterday was the same thing but we had a revenue dump late in the afternoon but today its still lagging way behind.

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