| 10:50 pm on May 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
This thread was very helpful to those of us with useful tools that do get about a thousand visitors a day, and have been uncertain about using adsense.
If you are counting dynamic pages it's easier to get into the millions than I thought. I pictured a site with 80+ pages, 50 of it menus to get people to what they needed, and a results page. When Google started indexing all the menu combinations last fall, it quickly became clear that there were a huge number of possible combinations.
Fifty states, each with 3 items you select from column A (about 100 choices), plus 3 items from column B (about 12 choices), then pick one of 3 radio buttons. All updated hourly. The sudden traffic from googlebot was insane. The tool had been running for years, but I had to block google from that part of the site.
Multiplying out the combinations, it's millions. I sure didn't write every page, and many would never be selected by a live person, but they're there and so is the value. Speaking at events, I routinely get asked if they'll have to start paying to use it.
People in the industry count on the tool, it's just the info they need, so word of mouth is fine. Maybe adsense will be someday too. Thanks for the info you provided to the quieter folk following this thread.
| 11:45 pm on May 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|While every single one of those pages will have its own pagerank (only if it is crawled) it will be an incredibly minute amount. It is incoming links that make the real difference. |
I don't want to turn this thread into a SEO discussion, but I'll just say I've heard about the importance of incoming links for years. I have sites that dispute the importance of those links.
| 11:59 pm on May 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|Looking at the OP's other posts, it's a scraper site and he's relatively new at it. |
I saw the one about copying abstracts of books and this one:
|Make your website open, and let a user post all copyright infringed material. When copyright holders complain, you pretend to be as innocent as youtube and immediately delete it. :> |
AdSense is a good thing. Webmaster World is a good thing. You can find lots of people here are willing to help you with problems and concerns - as long as they trust you.
If you give people a reason not to trust you, even if it's just a comment you meant to be a joke, you will lose the trust of people and for the most part, use of a good resource.
I'd say right now you have one foot on each side of the fence. Which way you go from here is up to you.
| 12:48 am on May 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I think this is no longer an AdSense related matter, except maybe for the eventual banned thread that follows under a new nick, people will keep trying to skate uphill no matter what ..
| 1:20 am on May 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|From your experience, what's the reasonable level of return for a small website like that? |
Many people average about $0.20 per click at around 5% CTR so I'll guesstimate about $10 for every 1K visitors you add to the site.
Work on traffic, the more traffic the better it pays!
[edited by: incrediBILL at 1:30 am (utc) on May 13, 2008]
| 1:34 am on May 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|...and within 3 days users go up from 90 per day to 400 now, and seems OK to go to 1000 soon. |
You wrock! :)
|From the statistics, they view about 10 pages each time they visit. |
Are you serious? How are you accomplishing that? An average of ten page views has to be a record. Why are your users sticking around for ten pages? This is a problem. :(
The idea is to have your visitors click out via AdSense without ever seeing a pixel of actual content. OBVIOUSLY you are not putting your AdSense units in the users face. Rethink your AdSense placement. Put two large rectangles at the top of the page beside each other. Then a large banner ad beneath that. Don't worry if this pushes your content below the fold, this will keep people from hanging around for ten page views.
[edited by: martinibuster at 1:53 am (utc) on May 13, 2008]
| 1:38 am on May 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Don't forget to put a Link unit across the top of the page so it looks somewhat like site navigation, that's always a good way to get clicks.
[edited by: incrediBILL at 1:38 am (utc) on May 13, 2008]
| 1:41 am on May 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|Don't forget to put a Link unit across the top of the page... |
Shhhh! This is a public forum, LOL.
| 2:20 am on May 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|Why are your users sticking around for ten pages? This is a problem. |
True, the higher the bounce rate the better the site tends to pay.
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