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Using AdSense Ad Review
Frustrating experience, how to make it better?
ken_b

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 9:02 pm on Apr 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

I just started using Ad Review today.

First, it says we need to choose a reason for blocking ads, but that option only seems to appear if I select "block only this adgroup" Is that what others are seeing?

Most often I'd want to block the advertiser entirely, or not at all.

Secondly, is there a limit to how many ads/advertisers you can block in a session?

It seems like after a blocking 70 or so ads/advertisers the system stopped accepting additional choices of any kind, block or allow.

I can block or allow additional sites, but that seems to be limited to 1 action per session.

This can't be right, can it?

All that said, it is pretty interesting to see who is targeting the site and with what kind of ads.

 

jaynl

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 3:42 am on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

The idea is nice and I'm happy with the Ad Review Center. But I have a couple of things that can be made better, also.

1. Show per Ad Group which website was targeted by the advertiser.

2. If I've already marked an advertiser or ad group as blocked, do not show it again in the Ad Review list each time.

3. For allowed ad groups, remember that I've already viewed and accepted them and don't show them each time in the list. Now, I have to check the complete list every time.

4. After saving settings per page, remember which page I was viewing. Now, it always returns to the beginning of the list (Ads 0-10).

These are some of my main issues.

celgins

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 12:26 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

First, it says we need to choose a reason for blocking ads, but that option only seems to appear if I select "block only this adgroup" Is that what others are seeing?

Yes. It only asks you to provide a reason if you attempt to block a specific ad group. If you block all ads by an advertiser, you need not provide a reason.

Secondly, is there a limit to how many ads/advertisers you can block in a session?

I have not read about a number limit, but I'm sure Google has one. I've only had to block 10 advertisers, so I'm not sure.

himalayaswater

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 1:01 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

This feature sucks. It will not provide any information about:
1) Ad CMP rate - There is no way to find out if ad cmp rate is $1 or $10

2) Targeting - Is ad only US or city specific? What about ad frequency?

3) I've multiple website and there is no way to find out which website is targeted to run these ad groups.

4) No email alerts about new ads

Basically, you are forced to blindly deny or accept (which default) ads. Above factors should be included with each ad group.

jetteroheller

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 1:28 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Who has actual ads in the review center?

I have in average around 300,000 page views a month, but not a single ad in the review center.

farmboy

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 1:50 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have in average around 300,000 page views a month, but not a single ad in the review center.

After "activating" the Ad Review feature, I had to wait about 24 hours for ads to appear.

FarmBoy

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 1:52 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

What exactly does an advertiser have to do to target a site?

- Actually visit the site?

- Just pick the URL from a list without visiting the site?

- Review a description of the site?

- Select a category of sites that includes my site?

The ads I am seeing now are fairly well targeted except for one. It has a keyword similar to the content of my site but it is very much out of context.

FarmBoy

jaynl

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 2:00 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

I've blocked 11 advertisers completely.

A few examples of what they're advertising for: * parked sites, * hypnosis, * working from home.

The remaining ad(vertiser)s which have targeted my sites are of high quality and very relevant.

purplecape

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 2:22 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

It does seem a little lacking. But I'm surprised to hear that someone is seeing a blocked advertiser in the the list--when I blocked an advertiser, they were transfered to a separate list.

Also, new advertisers have been showing up at the TOP of the list, so I don't have to scroll all the way through (this starts to happen a few days after you turn it on--when you first turn it on, over the next few days you get a couple of big dumps of advertisers, apparently including all the advertisers who have ever targeted your site and those currently targeting it).

farmboy, my understanding is that sites can be targeted in several ways. And advertisers don't have to see the site first. They can choose a URL, a specific channel on a site, or a keyword (in which case they could be targeting many sites). Someone who has experience on the Adwords side might know more.

It would be nice to know more about what's being targeted, but this is better than the situation before, of not knowing anything. I personally DON'T want to know the CPM rate the advertiser is bidding, because if you block on that basis you might be shooting yourself in the foot. Even if the CPM is lower than the average CPM for the site or channel that's targeted, it might bring you additional revenue by filling in when an advertiser's budget runs out, or by appearing in a geographic market where your CPM is lower....

farmboy

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 2:51 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Show per Ad Group which website was targeted by the advertiser.

It does seem that would be a basic feature. It makes you wonder if the people who develop these tools are given much information on how AdSense works.

On the other hand, I'm assuming most publishers have more than one site - maybe I'm wrong about that.

FarmBoy

jaynl

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 3:09 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Indeed, FarmBoy...

Well, we're lucky AdSenseAdvisor is taking notes about all our issues (hopefully).

ken_b

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 3:20 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Well whatever was causing the issues for me yesterday seems to have cleared up at the moment.

But what an eye opener to see who has targeted your site.

I'm not a big user of the competitive filter, but I'm trying this thing out. So far I've allowed about 55 advertisers and blocked about 125.

Which leads me to ask.

Can an advertiser target any site they want without being concerned about relevance?

Sure seems like based on what I'm seeing in this tool.

icedowl

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 3:51 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

It's been well over 24 hours since I activated the Ad Review Center and I'm still waiting to see any data as to who is targeting my site. In the regular reports I do see 'placement' ads listed when the reports are generated to show them. Frustrating.

celgins

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 6:58 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Can an advertiser target any site they want without being concerned about relevance?

Yes. Unless Google has changed something recently.

jetteroheller

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 7:03 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

I just looked again, now there are nearly 100 different ads to review.

farmboy

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 7:36 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

I just looked again, now there are nearly 100 different ads to review.

After reading your previous post, I decided to go ahead and change your account settings so you could see the ads in need of review. Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

FarmBoy

purplecape

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 7:47 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

farmboy, could you change MY account settings so that only high-paying ads will be allowed? thanks!

farmboy

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 8:33 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

could you change MY account settings so that only high-paying ads will be allowed? thanks!

Sure. I just checked your AdSense Discombulator Dial and it looks like it's set about halfway between moped and Buick. I just turned it up a notch to Cadillac.

You should begin to see changes 24 hours - 48 years from now.

Glad to help.

FarmBoy

Lame_Wolf

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 11:25 pm on Apr 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Can an advertiser target any site they want without being concerned about relevance?

Sure seems like based on what I'm seeing in this tool.

From what I have seen, yes.
I had a film advertised on one of my sites and not only that, it was not even related to our subject.

What I would like to know, if you block them as being placement targeted, do they then reappear as normal, keyword targeted adverts ?

purplecape

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 12:39 am on Apr 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Lame_Wolf, from what I understand, blocking an advertiser in placement targeting does NOT also block them in regular contextual ads. I'm not sure about the opposite, though.

Lame_Wolf

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 3:01 am on Apr 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

from what I understand, blocking an advertiser in placement targeting does NOT also block them in regular contextual ads.

Thank you for that. I hope that is the case, or someone can confirm it.

I was getting x amount of impressions, no clicks, but 1c - 3c
If that is the case, then I will block them all and make them be contextual advertisers.

ken_b

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 3:21 pm on Apr 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Well, it's back to not working.

I just went thru 100 advertisers/ad groups marking some blocked and some allowed.

Hit save

Not saved,

Very frustrating.

icedowl

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 8:07 pm on Apr 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Mine has never started to work. Reports that show "contextual" and "placement" impressions are still showing that there are "placement" ads being shown everyday. None of it shows up in the Ad Review Center.

Useless.

AdSenseAdvisor

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 8:39 am on Apr 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your feedback on the Ad Review Center. I have escalated it to the team working on this feature.

You ask how advertisers can target your site. They can list sites on which they'd like to advertise, or search for placements related to the themes and topics they'd like to target.

To answer your questions about ARC;

There is no limit on how many ads/advertisers you can block in a session.

An ad group is either placement or contextually targeted. If you block a placement-targeted ad, it will not then appear on your site as a contextually-targeted ad.

If you add a site to your Competitive ad filter, ads for this site will not appear in your ARC.

ken_b

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 1:24 pm on Apr 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Thanks for taking note of these concerns ASA, and for the info.

purplecape

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 2:31 pm on Apr 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

ASA, thanks, but what if you block an ADVERTISER in the ARC? Will that also block that advertiser on the contextual site, the same as if they were in the competitive ad filter?

AdSenseAdvisor

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 5:06 pm on Apr 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi purplecape,

Blocking an advertiser in ARC will not block the advertiser's contextually-targeted ads from appearing on your site.

ASA

purplecape

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 5:48 pm on Apr 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Got it, thanks.

ddogg

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 5:57 pm on Apr 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Honestly the review center is completely worthless IMO. First it is extremely slow to load. Second I have no idea how much any of these ads are paying out. Maybe I don't totally like an ad but if they are paying double what anyone else is paying then maybe I go ahead and allow it.

Third I have like a million sites targeting me apparently. I can't do anything using this interface, there are too many ads.

HERE IS WHAT YOU DO GOOGLE:

1. Have the ability to sort the ads by # of impressions they are getting on my sites. If 1 advertiser is getting 20% of all impressions and the rest are fighting for scraps, let me see that so I can focus on approving/rejecting ads from that advertiser.

2. Show me a range of CPM these people are paying.

3. Let me reject single ads, not an entire group. Some ads in a group I need to reject, while others are fine. But I can't do that right now.

Overall this feature is lame. Who comes up with products at Google? Have they released anything of real value lately?

Pepito

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Msg#: 3617559 posted 6:34 pm on Apr 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have, jut to play a little bit, very few ads with ADSDAQ and give you the option to block an ads completely or in a group and give you the below info:

For the past 7 days
Your revenue for these ads was: $#*$!X
With these blocking rules you would have earned: $YYYY
Revenue lost would have been: $ZZZZ

Is not possible to have this here as well?

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