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I fixed my adsense over night and it wasnt smartpricing!
Are your ads matching your site well?
solidcore




msg:3588120
 4:37 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Well guys Good news for me , i was earning 300$ day then it went down to litrally 10-30$ day..

I fixed my adsense account last night, it was a simple case of the content not matching any of the ads.

I worked hard last night to try and get the matching of my ads to the pages their relevence started flying between irrelivent and relivent type ads... eventualy a medium was found and my niche is now all over my site.

CTR went up, CPM doubled.

So lesson learned, if your ads dont match up, or you see the same ad over and over again theres a problem, and soon that advertiser (will pay you less) and you'll feel 'smartpriced' but let me just convince you this is not smartpricing, and that you're just being paid alot less than you did at first... the fix is simple.

Make sure google picks up the content of your pages accuratently, ensure you don't misslead it with words on your page.

Regards.

 

stormshield




msg:3588144
 4:54 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

So what exactly did you do? If you don't mind telling us.

Storm

solidcore




msg:3588158
 5:04 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Change the way you present your content, if you present the content poorly on your pages... google will start picking up on ugly words around your site maybe even your menu.

simsim2500




msg:3588162
 5:07 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)


Didn't understand this:
> I worked hard last night to try and get the
> matching of my ads to the pages

and this:
> I fixed my adsense account last night

:)

swa66




msg:3588169
 5:12 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Since they don't give us the keywords they matched on (and obviously also don't allow us to state they got the wrong keyword).... you're basically saying their automated system isn't perfect to figure out the topic.

But I'm not going to write content in such a manner to get better paying ads.

engine




msg:3588177
 5:20 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

I wonder if solidcore is referring to factors, such as, menu placement and menu topics.

For example. If you have an anchor text menu which says:
Home
About
Info
etc.
It's going to have an impact on what Google sees and delivers as appropriate content.

Here's a slightly better alternative anchor text menu
widgets
widgets company
widget information, green, red and black
etc.

solidcore




msg:3588179
 5:22 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

I didn't say write it in any such a manner to get better paying ads, i just poorly written the way i present my data on the page (html coding).

Google actualy states your content of your pages should be good, if poor you get poor paying ads its that simple.

But putting that into html code, you can mess up, one small change its bang all over (and you wonder why)

solidcore




msg:3588183
 5:23 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

engine thats exactly it

I even used google analytrics keywords checker (External for those who dont have adwwords google it)

And it told me one of the most important keywords on the page was 'sign-up, home, login'

As you can tell i had stupid ads.

And no doubt google adsense bot looks up the keywords in the same mannor, as thats how it works right, it scans your page for popular words... and if your page content is all the way down the page under loads of menu its likely to be the last keyword google wants to monetize for.

engine




msg:3588189
 5:31 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yes, the menu and its location on the page can affect the ads.

Well done solidcore, and thanks for reminding us.

farmboy




msg:3588195
 5:48 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

I fixed my adsense account last night, it was a simple case of the content not matching any of the ads.

Maybe I missed something, but weren't you previously earning $300/day with this same content that didn't match any of the ads?

FarmBoy

solidcore




msg:3588197
 5:51 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Thank you engine, i've really had a terrible past 2 months over this kind of thing, I think google was trying to monetize for the 'register' link or somthing :(

I noticed placing ads under my content was paying out more (contradiction to what we all know right?)

I guess I should of realised the new layout change had this major effect on the site.

I changed the way the whole site looked about the time it all went to poor 10-20$ day :(

I learnt not to count all my eggs in 1 basket, and started monetizing through other means (cpm networks), they paid me good 100-200$ day between 2 networks.. that kept me going for a while.

But knowing that a cpm network was paying better than a cpc network made me angry, i knew that my CTR was going to pay out more if the CPC wasn't so poor... and what's more knowing my content wasn't being found properly by adsense bot upset me, because now for the past 2 months I've lost out a potential $9000-$18,000... i wouldnt even like to exadurate that figure but its fact... my traffic went up so im going to be earning 9000$ minimum per month if things get back to normal, although I doubt google will ever be like the OLD DAYS.

to Farmboy: layout changed in 2008 jan, same content, ads flipped on me.

[edited by: solidcore at 5:52 pm (utc) on Feb. 29, 2008]

celgins




msg:3588199
 5:52 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

So lesson learned, if your ads dont match up, or you see the same ad over and over again theres a problem...

Not necessarily. If ads aren't matching your content, it could be due to several reasons. More importantly, if you're seeing the same ads over and over -- this may not be a sign of problems. It could mean that an advertiser is placement-targeting your site, or they're paying higher for a particular keyword on your page.

Either way, it sounds like you've explored some basic SEO tips that also help with the Mediapartners bot.

solidcore




msg:3588204
 5:53 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

celgins in december i had 300-500$ day placement targetting, i knew that was placement it was obvious :] but that was only 2 weeks. then placement went right about the same time i changed my layout, placement can also mean keywords right? (on the basis of targetted ads)

Btw i made 30$ in the last 2 hours since content placement mattered so damn much :]

Problem is Officialy fixed!

stormshield




msg:3588370
 9:47 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Solidcore, congratulations! I don't make as much as you do, but I will certainly try to play a bit with keywords on my site. Wish me good luck:)

Storm

tim222




msg:3588376
 10:11 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yes, the menu and its location on the page can affect the ads.

Shouldn't section targeting take care of that? I don't have problems with the menu being interpreted as content. I always figured that was because I use section targeting to isolate the body of the page from the navigational elements.

[google.com...]

solidcore




msg:3588748
 2:19 pm on Mar 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

stormshield: You will come back to thank me when you work harder at targetting your niche with your content, these keywords will help you relate the content and niche, this increasing your overall Click Through Rate, Cost Per Metric will increase because your Pay Per Click will increase.

It's always amazed me that Section targetting is very poor and at times ignores multidude of keywords in your content, I believe that you should highlight the important topic areas around the top of your page this will also increase your SEO but not only that increase the likelyhood that google bot will show up more relevent ads for your Niche.

It's the 2nd day running and it's the 1st day of March, and all I can say is , if these changes remain positive and in effect the same or better this month then all I can say is that March will be the first Adsense Month I'll ever have where I can actualy say I've achieved my goals.

inactivist




msg:3589104
 3:50 am on Mar 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Shouldn't section targeting take care of that? I don't have problems with the menu being interpreted as content. I always figured that was because I use section targeting to isolate the body of the page from the navigational elements.

Worked great for me.

RonS




msg:3589109
 3:58 am on Mar 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

weight=ignore on the menus.......no?

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