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I tracked down a bug in Referrals that reduces earnings
Adsense bug that reduces Product Referrals earnings
sutrostyle




msg:3552385
 9:21 am on Jan 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

To test this, we have temporarily set it so that there is only one product referral (and such that Google cannot show any other products).

Every conversion of this product is supposed to pay a non-zero amount (it follows both from the description of the product, and from the definition of “conversion” in FAQ).

When you go to Advanced Reports, and get the Referrals history, the daily earnings are expected to be the number of conversions times the referral price. I noticed recently, that this has not been always the case. The daily earnings are always a multiple of the single conversion price, but it is often given by this formula:

Earnings = (number_of_conversions – integer_number)*conversion_price

This integer_number is usually less than 1/3 of the number of conversions. This is very easy to see when you have only one product, but if you have many, the formula would be obfuscated due to different conversion prices. I suggest somebody tries this out. Since Adsense ads and Referrals probably share a lot of common code, I would not be surprised if the same bug reduces Adsense ads earnings as well.

 

Hobbs




msg:3552444
 12:04 pm on Jan 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

conversions – integer

Can it be that this subtracted integer is the lagging not confirmed conversions yet? You know the report is not real time and this could be a fixed delay..

I'm no longer using Referrals2.0 so I'm not an authority on the subject.

sutrostyle




msg:3552447
 12:26 pm on Jan 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Can it be that this subtracted integer is the lagging not confirmed conversions yet? You know the report is not real time and this could be a fixed delay..

Then next day we would see (conversions + integer), but it is always - and never +

Hobbs




msg:3552453
 12:38 pm on Jan 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yes you should if you stop serving those ads after that, also we do not know if the delay is in days our hours.

Hobbs




msg:3552544
 4:41 pm on Jan 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Here's a bug (since we're discussing referral bugs):

I stopped serving those Referrals over a month ago, and I'm still seeing them listed in my overview report.

- I rebuilt all my old pages (no old or hidden pages)
- I don't allow search engines to cache my pages
- I'm seeing a daily list of like 12 of them always with 0 clicks
- I am using the "allowed sites" feature

It's like a germ I caught when trying Referrals 2.0 out.

jomaxx




msg:3552600
 6:33 pm on Jan 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Are you sure the referral program does in fact pay for EVERY conversion? Maybe certain countries or certain age groups (i.e. under 18) or whatever do not qualify.

joelgreen




msg:3553486
 1:09 pm on Jan 21, 2008 (gmt 0)

Maybe this would explain something.

# Why am I not earning my maximum referral value?
# Why am I earning less than the full amount for some valid conversions?

[google.com...]

MikeNoLastName




msg:3556716
 10:29 am on Jan 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Is there a referral action delay period? i.e. someone clicks on the ad and then returns 10, 30, or maybe even 90 days later on the same cookied computer and satisfies the referral activity by making a purchase and you still get credit for the referral.

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