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ecpm recovered after oct20 glitch?
For how many affected people did ecpm recover?
sutrostyle




msg:3500011
 8:22 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Our ecpm dropped by 50% on Oct 20, when the channel glitch occured. I saw that for some people here it recovered a few days ago. For us it did not. Are we alone? For how many people did it recover?

Also, for those for whom it has recovered, did you complain to Google about this?

 

btas2




msg:3500019
 8:32 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm still down. Slightly better than the worst days, but still significantly down.

Complaining to Google would be a waste of electrons. They don't have to explain themselves to you. You're not important enough.

HuskyPup




msg:3500044
 8:52 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm not as low as I was, meaning I thought I was going to hit USD 0.00 at one point from a yearly average of USD 10.00+, one or two channels seem to have returned to normal EPC levels but overall I'm still well down, about -40%.

One thing I have noticed is that my AdLinks have performed disastrously since the glitch, a 50% reduction in clicks and EPC, and considering just over 50% of my earnings comes from AdLinks...hmmm!

coosblues




msg:3500050
 8:59 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Down, and continue to sink. YPN is now being placed on many pages.

levo




msg:3500057
 9:17 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

still down

stormshield




msg:3500103
 10:11 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

A little better.

masterchief




msg:3500125
 10:41 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

down the drain

icedowl




msg:3500127
 10:44 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Digging a hole.

nondescriptive




msg:3500134
 10:49 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

It looked great this morning, slowly sliding down all day but still much better than the last few weeks. I just got accepted and signed up with YPN.

You know what was in the intro letter to YPN? A phone number!

Content_ed




msg:3500137
 11:06 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I just got accepted and signed up with YPN.

When did you apply? I filled out the online app for our company last week and haven't heard back yet.

We're still down on our main channel, other channels moving both directions. Same advertisers, BTW, just lower eCPM by about half.

nondescriptive




msg:3500188
 12:40 am on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

When did you apply?

I actually applied about 3 weeks back but I never heard anything. Then I just applied again last night and heard back pretty quickly. I haven't implemented any yet. It's going to be tricky b/c my header, navbar and footer are all modular on my main site, but I have a block of code in each pages content that I would have to change. I'm thinking about pulling the modular code into the home page manually and implementing YPN on just that page for an experiment tonight.

Aircut




msg:3500210
 1:02 am on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

lowest numbers in 3years....oh i miss the glory days

security56




msg:3500220
 1:26 am on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Down the toilet hole here too, just waiting for adsense to flush it so i go down from adsense for ever lol

OnlyToday




msg:3500229
 2:00 am on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Still down, yes I complained and got an irritating boilerplate explanation about smart pricing. I have applied at a few networks, have tried a few worthless affiliates.

drall




msg:3500271
 3:17 am on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Lowest numbers in 4 years.

coosblues




msg:3500337
 6:21 am on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

I just can't buy the Spricing theory. I occasionally buy adwords and the cost for my keywords has not gone down one penny!

btas2




msg:3500340
 6:30 am on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

I wouldn't get too excited about YPN. They're still a poor substitute for the old AdSense. Their ad inventory seems low and their targeting leaves lots to be desired. Their customer service department is as inept as AdSense, and they trot out the same old form letter answers to questions.

I'm running them again on a few pages and the results are OK but not exactly exciting.

I'm still looking for an ad network to run alongside my affiliate and other advertising that can perform better than AdSense, even the current AdSense which is starting to suck.

zett




msg:3500343
 6:53 am on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

I am heading for the worst month in almost three years, and yes, that includes the low months I experienced at the beginning of Adsense.

Currently, I am seeing that EPC has been dropping like a stone (-20%) compared to October. To us, Adsense is becoming more of a (sad) joke every day. As it looks now, we will wait until after the holiday season and then decide whether to pull Adsense or not.

Thez




msg:3500462
 11:04 am on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm down 1/3 on ecpm since last month and it's terrible.

Guess the quiet before the storm? (xmas earnings) :)

Scurramunga




msg:3500463
 11:08 am on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Guess the quiet before the storm? (xmas earnings) :)

Be prepared for a rude shock.

con771




msg:3500486
 12:21 pm on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

There have been about 2 days I thought I may have been set on the road to recovery. Then...BAM! ecpm remains down about 1/3

potentialgeek




msg:3500506
 12:54 pm on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Recovered... I think... b/c it's held steady for several days.

Income still about 50% down, though, from a SERPs crash (950 penalty). Double Whammy!

I was just thinking: What if a new smart pricing algo was based on the same principle or mathematics as the 950?

In a nutshell, for those who've not followed the infamous Google 950 Penalty that's been discussed for months on the Google News Forum, Google has issued penalties to some websites which send them to the back of the line (approx. #950 in SERPs).

If Google reengineered its smart pricing code similar to the 950, you'd see a huge sudden drop in EPC and revenue, instead of a gradual erosion of income.

The 950 represented a paradigm shift in thinking at Google. It is the harshest penalty outside of an outright ban. If that new mindset permeates the Plex, it is now comfortable thinking in extremes, such as a quick and dramatic slashing of payout to publishers by 30-50%--unannounced, unprecedented, and unexplained.

Does the new reduced income drop for some/many here since October represent a penalty that was applied to your Adsense accounts?

If so, is there a way to get out of the Adsense penalty, like with the 950?

p/g

Scurramunga




msg:3500508
 1:00 pm on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Or maybe google places a value on a publisher similar to pagerank. that would explain why some publishers the so called earnings "ceiling". How do we know that smartpricing doesn't actually work in this way.

grigoroo




msg:3500522
 1:31 pm on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Maybe the best defense here is to buy Google stock. It looks like their profit margins will go even higher.

I added some Adsense banner ads on 11/1 and my results have tanked ever since, even though they are remarkably well targeted to my audience. Average CPC down 33% from October. Are banners worse than text ads?

con771




msg:3500525
 1:38 pm on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Anyone noticing anything even stranger today? So far my ecpm is down from 25% to about 75%.

Content_ed




msg:3500557
 2:05 pm on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

If Google reengineered its smart pricing code similar to the 950, you'd see a huge sudden drop in EPC and revenue,

While we did see a recent drop in toolbar PR on many pages (lost all of our sixes) we've actually seen a surge in Google traffic, even picking up some one word top placements, though not for anything anybody searches on often:-)

So, no search penalties here, but a major fall off in eCPM, which feeds on itself by allowing in cr*p advertisers, which deserve a lousy eCPM. What I call the Adsense death spiral.

HuskyPup




msg:3500580
 2:21 pm on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Anyone noticing anything even stranger today?

I came to one of four conclusions when I saw mine:

1. Updation delay:-)

2. The Internet is closed today for Indian Diwali.

3. Google has finally committed Hara-kiri! Check out Seppuku if you do not know what it means.

4. Someone at long last has pulled out my plug:-(

OnlyToday




msg:3500581
 2:22 pm on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Anyone noticing anything even stranger today?

Very strange. CTR and eCPM are back at early October levels but impressions are way behind so earnings don't look great.

Of course I've learned not to get too excited about these anomalies, they probably will be way different by noon.

Content_ed




msg:3500615
 2:47 pm on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

PG,

from a SERPs crash (950 penalty).

Just out of curiosity, do you kow what caused this?

HuskyPup




msg:3500725
 4:15 pm on Nov 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Just posted in the big thread that this afternoon, Friday, UK, I am seeing a dramatic EPC return to pre-Gitch levels.

Anyone else or am I just having a couple of good hours?

Maybe this is why stats have been slow today?

Have they been replacing the rubber bands?

Has someone kicked butt?

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