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Help a friend - Introduce him/her to AdSense?
farmboy




msg:3488943
 3:48 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Between this and the "AdSense after Life" thread, I must be in a philosophical mood tonight.

Anyway, as some of you know, my motto is "Loose lips sink ships" which means I don't go around talking about my involvement with AdSense to friends and family members. That's especially true with the curious who want to know what I do or how I earn my money.

From a different perspective though, has anyone ever introduced a friend or non-immediate family member to AdSense to help them develop an income? I'm thinking of a situation where you would get nothing at all out of the deal, you just want to help them out.

FarmBoy

 

ken_b




msg:3488948
 4:01 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I talk about AdSense freely offline with friends and strangers, many of whom I've encouraged to set up a website and get started using AdSense as at least a starting point for generating an online income.

Not one that I know of has taken even the first steps.

wyweb




msg:3488950
 4:08 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I tried to encourage an ex-girlfriend to set up adsense on a site she'd done for her son, who's an avid wildlife photographer. The site gets around 2000 unique visits a day so it wouldn't have been a huge amount of income, but it would have offset hosting and domain renewal costs. They nixed the idea. Keeping it pure.

I used to have that attitude myself. Then I sold out.

Forest Dweller




msg:3488961
 4:51 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

They nixed the idea. Keeping it pure.

I used to have that attitude myself. Then I sold out.

My Adsense earnings have been so low lately that I'm thinking of becoming "pure" again, if that's possible.

Anyway, I have a friend who's an author and, like most authors, he could really use some extra cash. Both he and his wife write beautifully about an interesting niche subject and he has some name recognition in that area, too. At one point, they had a website started and then just let it expire after they lost interest. I tried to explain Adsense to them several times, they know I have it on my site and that it does bring in a little money, but they just didn't seem to be able to put two and two together.

I don't talk about it with them anymore, it's just wasted effort.

Forest

zett




msg:3488979
 6:07 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Not one that I know of has taken even the first steps.

Same here. Turns out that most folks love the idea of the money, but hate to do all the nitty-gritty stuff (aka "work") required to get going.

Now I usually do not suggest joining Adsense any longer.

europeforvisitors




msg:3488982
 6:14 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I encouraged my son to place AdSense on his site, and it's earning him some money.

mack




msg:3488983
 6:14 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have tried explaining the whole Adsense concept to a few people who are "kinda" interested in setting up info type sites. To the average person it just makes no sense. I spent a good hour or so explaing how Adsense works to someone to then have them ask, "So how much do I pay Google to show their ads?."

At that point I gave up!

Mack.

IanCP




msg:3489089
 10:27 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well I've only inroduced one. A fellow competitor whom I greatly admire and respect. Also a noted author in our field.

That was several years ago when I also gave him a link from my site to get him started.

Since then "I've told nobody nuthing" and have only given out one more link [how mean can you be Ian] which was to a real young kid starting out who impressed me enormously and richly deserved encouragement.

Since 2000 I've only given two outbound links except context sensitive links in content articles citing references to articles.

Nah! I believe keep AdSense a dark secret for restricted members only. Hell, why share the well?

ann




msg:3489169
 1:12 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

My son was doing good with a website, just selling his specialty 10 or 12 years ago. He also had a friend who had a stall in the local flea market and he spent several trips there and talked to him about putting up a website and selling his wares direct. Guy did not do it even though his son was heavy into computers BUT only data entry for other companies.

After adsense broke and the golden egg was flying around he went and talked to him again, even showed him the new truck adsense bought plus a very nice home, Inviting him to visit and swim in his swimming pool (he never did).

What floored me was the guy acted like he didn't believe him! Oh well, he's still in the flea market and my son is still raking in money...go figure.

I also have a friend a lot younger than me who has a fairly expensive computer but would rather play bingo than learn anything to make money with.

I don't bother trying with people any more.

Ann

adrianTNT




msg:3489174
 1:23 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

From what I seen so far is a very low probability that somone gets to earn something after you explain to them.
As somone said above they get discouraged at the point when they have to do some work.
Last one I sent to AdSense is my brother, I will wait and see if AdSense will work for him :)

Most people do not have enough patience.

dibbern2




msg:3490024
 8:27 pm on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Not one that I know of has taken even the first steps.

I had the same experience.

It baffles me how people chase so many other ideas -real estate programs and house-party sales like Avon come to mind- and yet totally ignore the potential of something like AS.

People do work hard in these other schemes, don't they?

adrianTNT




msg:3490030
 8:38 pm on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

It baffles me how people chase so many other ideas -real estate programs and house-party sales like Avon come to mind- and yet totally ignore the potential of something like AS. People do work hard in these other schemes, don't they?

Maybe AdSense requires more work with your (/our) brains and the others like to work with their muscles ;)

DamonHD




msg:3490042
 8:46 pm on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Kinda depressing and reassuring.

Other people call me a "serial entrepreneur" which I think is overdone, but if all that means is "prepared to try interesting things from time to time" then maybe I am.

There is the old saying about leading horses to water for good reason I suspect...

Rgds

Damon

Hobbs




msg:3490063
 9:13 pm on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Actually most that is being discussed is building a site from scratch for AdSense, I think the majority of the sucessful among us built the sites first, had traffic for a long time, then AdSense came along and turned you all into the materialistic EPC and eCPM greedy bunch that we all know and love :-)

Point is: First the idea, then the website, then the traffic and links, and on the seventh day let there be AdSense, that's how it usually works out with a happy ending.

creeking




msg:3490064
 9:17 pm on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Anyway, I have a friend who's an author and, like most authors, he could really use some extra cash. Both he and his wife write beautifully about an interesting niche subject and he has some name recognition in that area, too. At one point, they had a website started and then just let it expire after they lost interest. I tried to explain Adsense to them several times, they know I have it on my site and that it does bring in a little money, but they just didn't seem to be able to put two and two together.

I don't talk about it with them anymore, it's just wasted effort.

since they're friends and they have good content to provide, offer them a partnership. you provide the website and design and updates; they provide the articles.

split the earnings.

since they probably have a lot of existing content just sitting in .doc files on their home pc, they might go for it.

win/win...... but try not to make it look like an MFA site. :)

chocorol




msg:3490082
 10:29 pm on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

I never talk about AdSense in the offline world, sometimes my family wonders how I make money and I just tell them that I work in the Internet (which is obvious since I'm in the computer all day).

When I was beginning nobody payed attention to what I was doing and they thought I was just playing with the PC, but now that they've seen checks come, and now that I don't depend financially on anybody (traveling by myself with my own money, buying a car or whatever I want and saving for my mid and long term projects at my 18 years) they've become very curious about my activities, to the point that I have to password-protect everything so they don't look into my "bussiness".

Recently my mother told me she wanted to earn money from the Internet just as I do, the thing is that I just cant show her what I do online while I live here with her in the same place (She's not very computer literate and I know for shure she would make a lot of mistakes like clicking her own ads so I fear my account would be in danger). Besides that, I'd have to spend a lot of hours explaing her all the process, teach her html and the basics of web development.

I will help and teach her what I know as soon as I move to my own apartment, as I don't want to have my AdSense account associated with nobody else.

Tiebreaker




msg:3490307
 8:56 am on Oct 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Fortunately, about 95% of people just want to be worker drones - pick up a pay cheque each month and don't think about anything.

Don't try to fight it - you'll never change them - and the other 5% need to find employees :-)

linear




msg:3490566
 3:31 pm on Oct 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

I hooked up my dad. He retired from being an editor, so he was already comfortable writing. He enjoys writing, and now has an incentive to do it.

He was doing well, then I suggested that he post the several email questions he gets a day along with the replies on his site. That really lit a fire under it.

wyweb




msg:3490580
 3:39 pm on Oct 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

then I suggested that he post the several email questions he gets a day along with the replies on his site. That really lit a fire under it.

User contribution. You got that right. No doubt.

Forest Dweller




msg:3490645
 4:29 pm on Oct 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Anyway, I have a friend who's an author and, like most authors, he could really use some extra cash. Both he and his wife write beautifully about an interesting niche subject and he has some name recognition in that area, too. ... but they just didn't seem to be able to put two and two together.

I don't talk about it with them anymore, it's just wasted effort.

since they're friends and they have good content to provide, offer them a partnership. you provide the website and design and updates; they provide the articles.

split the earnings.

I've thought about that, but my gut tells me it wouldn't work out. If they're not willing to go for it themselves, I have a feeling that I'd waste a lot of time trying to get them to focus on it and gather the content, and then I'd spend even more time making it web ready. Only so much time to go around. :)

netmeg




msg:3490727
 5:48 pm on Oct 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

My mother (aged 76) has threated to start, specially when she saw how much I was making. She's a really good writer, and exceedingly smart and funny, and she'd probably be an instant hit in a blog-type situation (plus she knows something about everything, and lots about some things) Only thing that keeps me from getting her started is that I'm afraid she'll start writing about ME. Who needs that? This is a woman who prints out her porno spam email to pass around at family gatherings, to show us how funny it is.

ken_b




msg:3490728
 5:52 pm on Oct 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Only thing that keeps me from getting her started is that I'm afraid she'll start writing about ME.

Well that seems fair, I mean you're here writing about her, so.... come on Netmegs Mom, tell us all about Netmeg as a kid........... :)

iwannano1




msg:3490736
 5:56 pm on Oct 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Only thing that keeps me from getting her started is that I'm afraid she'll start writing about ME. Who needs that?

Heh..

Personally, I never told to anyone .. why should I increase my competition. Only my bro knows about it as he works for local software company.

Otherwise rest of the community / family members are into agriculture. Perhaps they make more.

dollarshort




msg:3490755
 6:16 pm on Oct 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

I suggested it to my sister in law stay at home mom for extra income and as a nice hobby now she make 3 times more than me!

uhwebs




msg:3492059
 12:03 am on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

My closest family members know and encourage me... they think it is a miracle that you can make $$$ on a computer. But mostly they aren't interested in doing it themselves (one family member does write articles for me and work with me, and that situation has worked out well).

I don't discuss details with anyone, even close friends, just tell them I "make a little online". Honestly as a college student making a lot more than my peers (its tempted me to quit college, honestly) it would make things awkward if my friends knew how much I was making. I would feel weird, and I don't want to be mooched off of either.

Now I have mentioned it to a very few people but they haven't taken the step to get involved yet. I wish they would... but one person says he thinks running a site would be fun but he wants to "wait" until he knows a lot about widgets because he doesn't like crappy sites. He wants to have everything planned out before he starts a site. *sigh*

Isn't the most important part taking action? I mean, just start already-- you'll be forced to learn to swim if you jump in.

elguiri




msg:3492060
 12:05 am on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

Don't mix friends and business. You'll end up working for them for free, and that's not good for business or friendship.

King_Fisher




msg:3496203
 7:16 pm on Nov 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Unless your friends are so inclined you are wasting your breath.

Most dont" get it". Most people plod through life content with their situation.

Others don't want to work that hard for the money. Some or not technically
adept.

For the rare friend who does get it, give him a little help. But the fact is
they have to have enough desire to learn it on their on, like most of us have.

As the old saying goes " You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink"...KF

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