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Does AdSense Limit Max # of Domains Per Publisher?
What is the Minimum Amount of Content Allowed?
dangerman




msg:3398203
 3:28 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Can anyone tell me whether Google place any limits on the number of domains we can place AdSense code on under one account?

Also, can anyone advise me what is the min amount of content, practically-speaking, can I add to each of my several hundred domains to be effective for Adsense? I am thinking of adding 4-6 paragraphs of unique content for each domain to start, then build up to several pages per site after that. Any holes in that strategy?

Thanks for any advice.

[edited by: dangerman at 4:18 pm (utc) on July 18, 2007]

 

malachite




msg:3398230
 3:54 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

I am thinking of adding 4-6 paragraphs of unique content for each domain to start, then build up to several pages per site after that.

What value are you providing for visitors? The words "MFA" spring to my mind.

sailorjwd




msg:3398260
 4:10 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

"I can add to each of my several hundred domains to be effective for Adsense"

You have to be kidding, right?

You'd be better off putting several hundred paragraphs on one domain.

Note to self: Ask Adwords to allow us to block by publisher ID.

whoisgregg




msg:3398261
 4:11 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Perhaps Adsense for Domains [google.com] is a better option for you?

dangerman




msg:3398265
 4:15 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Malachite: I am going to be spending 5 figures on customised news. Problem is some of the news, although completely unique to me, hence the cost, is relevant to several domains.

I don't want to get hit with duplicate content penalties, so this is coming through the pages in iFrames - totally relevant to the visitor to that domain but not useful from SEO or AdSense pov.

Just after some advice :-)

whoisgregg: they haven't responded, I guess the traffic doesn't meet their min requirements

malachite




msg:3398291
 4:44 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

There's a big difference between "several domains" and "several hundred domains" :)

If what you're offering is 'news' then presumably, you or somebody, will be updating all the sites on a daily basis - so you're going to need more than a few paragraphs or pages of content to keep visitors coming in.

Adsense sometimes has problems serving well targeted ads on 'news' sites due to the constantly changing nature of the content.

sonny




msg:3398299
 4:49 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have domains that get type-in traffic. I only put a couple of paragraphs on them and it's been working out ok.

Go60Guy




msg:3398419
 6:46 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

What value are you providing for visitors? The words "MFA" spring to my mind.

Personally, I don't see how that sort of question has any relevance. It's an unwarranted assumption. The definition of MFA is highly subjective, and what one person may believe has no value may be precisely what another is looking for. It doesn't matter whether you run one website or hundreds. We're not all crafting content to be Pulitzer Prize candidates.

One thing is for certain. Google and the other SEs are the final arbitors of whether a site or page has any value. You may not agree with the way their algorithms work, and may scream that some site which in your view is "worthless" outranks you. But, all that means is that you need to pay closer attention to your own site.

Just felt the need to rant against the ivory tower mentality that sometimes creeps in here.

koan




msg:3398424
 6:55 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Just felt the need to rant against the ivory tower mentality that sometimes creeps in here.

Well this is an Adsense forum and the Adsense TOS specifically states not to put ads on sites that have no real content for users. Sure it is a matter of interpretation but it is still constructive advice, especially if that person is going to drop 5 figures on his project.

And if that person is going to use Adwords to publicize his sites, Adsense publishers of this forum are legitimately in their rights to be concerned about sending their users in the future to worthless sites for pennies because they managed to write an exciting ad. Annoying our user base is the first step to declining CTR.

sailorjwd




msg:3398435
 7:15 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't see any MFA sites that out rank mine.

But I love your trailer trash mentality. I could use a good neighbor like you.

What I don't need is another few 100 fake news sites, some of which might grab my adwords ads.

farmboy




msg:3398521
 8:56 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have domains that get type-in traffic. I only put a couple of paragraphs on them and it's been working out ok.

Based on the pre-June 1st threads, you might want to tread carefully here. Maybe even consider adding more content.

And that's especially true if you happen to advertise on AdWords.

Farmboy

farmboy




msg:3398522
 8:58 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Can anyone tell me whether Google place any limits on the number of domains we can place AdSense code on under one account?

As far as I know, there is no limit.

However, if you care about the ads that appear on your site(s), the more sites/pages you have the more inadequate the 200 limit filter will become.

FarmBoy

dangerman




msg:3398534
 9:13 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thanks Farmboy,

..an answer to the question at last! :-)
Appreciate the point about the filter limit

sailorjwd wrote:
What I don't need is another few 100 fake news sites, some of which might grab my adwords ads.

What? Nothing fake about my news. All written for me by experienced journalists who I have used in my organisations for years.
Who said anything about AdWords? Not using them.

daveblake




msg:3398560
 9:34 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Oh yeah, don't expect a straight answer without first being hit up by one of the several presumptuous 'roving vicars' around here.

Soon as you mentioned 'few hundred sites' your card was marked - they would have enjoyed the Crusades!

It's all a game, Dangerman was just asking about the rules, not inviting a moral inquest. Google hold the aces and is a hard enough player without all this preachy malarky.

Go60Guy




msg:3398614
 10:23 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't think there is a forum here at WebmasterWorld that pushes more fear based emotional buttons that this one. Perspective gets lost. Sure, Google talks about making sure your site adds something of value. I would guess (just a guess mind you) that over 90% of all sites in the index running AdSense are repackaged regurgitations of existing information. So basically, the admonition is observed in the breach and shares in Google soar.

Get real. Call off the cops.

sailorjwd




msg:3398622
 10:43 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Ok Dangerman.

I take back my nasty comments.

I vote for at lease 500 words of content on a page.

I'm an Adwords advertiser and I am a little sensitive about the 100000 sites out there with no original content.

nippi




msg:3398701
 1:21 am on Jul 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

All my sites are made for adsense, in that if it were not for adsense, I would not have made them. Its the simplest way to monetise a site. No sales, no customer support, no reliance on a 3rd party to close a deal, clicks not views meaning high income can come from relatively low traffic sites.

That said, they provide useful content so are not made simply for the purpose of taking money from advertisers.

malachite




msg:3398848
 8:55 am on Jul 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

No one's trying to hold the moral high ground or be a "roving vicar" here. Well I'm not, anyway.

But when someone says they're going to launch "several hundred" domains with "4-6 paragraphs" of content + Adsense, and wondering whether that's going to be effective, then no. Sorry. I don't think that's necessarily the best way to go about it, unless your brand has already got a very strong presence that's likely to draw significant traffic to all those new domains. It's spreading yourself too thin.

The OP then states these are going to be "news" sites - so that doesn't quite tally with his earlier statement of "building up to several pages per site". News doesn't run out, and by its nature is something that's continually rolling, constantly changing and quickly becomes stale.

Is there really such a thing as 'unique' news?

All I'm suggesting is that while there may be no limit to the number of domains one can add to an Adsense account, it may not be the best use of a substantial investment to launch "hundreds" of sites when perhaps a "few" could do the same job for a better ROI. Start smaller, build up trust from Google and users, provide useful content and expand as necessary.

farmboy




msg:3398981
 12:51 pm on Jul 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't think there is a forum here at WebmasterWorld that pushes more fear based emotional buttons that this one.

I think that's because, at least in part, publishers know what others do can negatively affect them.

It's like the massive pre-June 1st arbitrage threads. People doing AdWords/AdSense arbitrage couldn't understand why other publishers didn't like the practice. It was because those misleading AdWords ads the arbs were buying ended up on the sites of publishers, etc.

Add to that Google's seeming inability/indifference to addressing some of the concerns and I think that's a recipe for short fuses.

FarmBoy

biscuit




msg:3398990
 1:07 pm on Jul 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm still trying to think of a practical legitimate reason why anyone wants several hundred different domains with two or three paragraphs per page.

And yup, the words 'web spam' and 'MFA' come to mind. I'm also interested in the defensive reaction of those who refer to 'web vicars'.

If there is going to be a crusade against value-free cookie-cutter crappy websites, please do sign me up. If those same crappy sites are going to ruin public perception of the adsense program, web vicar be damned - call me Torquemada!

Naturally, my comments do not apply to dangerman, who is no doubt a netizen with impeccable ethics and hundreds of snowy white hats (one per website).

dangerman




msg:3399056
 2:10 pm on Jul 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm still trying to think of a practical legitimate reason why anyone wants several hundred different domains with two or three paragraphs per page.

To make the world a better place, of course.

Naturally, my comments do not apply to dangerman, who is no doubt a netizen with impeccable ethics and hundreds of snowy white hats (one per website).

Why thanks, you are most gracious. I'll be sure to send you a personal invite to the launch, dear vicar, and I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised.

martinibuster




msg:3399600
 12:23 am on Jul 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Just a friendly reminder. :)

Thread topic:
Can anyone tell me whether Google place any limits on the number of domains we can place AdSense code on under one account?

can anyone advise me what is the min amount of content, practically-speaking, can I add...?


Go60Guy




msg:3399952
 1:45 pm on Jul 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thanks Martinibuster. That's what should have happened in the first place with this thread, IMO.

That said, I agree that there is no limit on the number of domains that can carry your code. I hate to refer to it again, but I know for a fact that blackhatters will spin out thousands of MFA domains and subdomains without being banned.

dangerman




msg:3400150
 5:07 pm on Jul 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yes, thanks martinibuster. Go60Guy, thanks also for your answer to my question. Got to the point where I was getting answers pm'd for fear of being identified & labelled.

I guess I should not have mentioned the 'hundreds of domains' bit as that seemed to instantly place me in the black-hatters camp. But it's true, and that is the broad strategy I am going down, even if it appears unsavoury to some.

For the record, many of the domains are quite specific generics. There will be very targeted news for each site coming through the sites as iFrames (mentioned earlier). This will grow to span many pages of news per site, though obviously only the most recent news is totally relevant. To answer Malachite, because the news is iFramed, it is not at odds with my initial intention to place a few paragraphs of content per site. domain + iFramed news + content = site.

However, based on what people have been saying here, and thanks for the comments, I concede that I should be looking at increasing the level of non-iFramed content.

I am not an MFA propagator about to unleash a torrent of content-devoid web sites. There will be a lot of time, effort and money being spent on developing these sites, which I know doesn't guarantee quality on its own, but I am confident each will be more than OK on launch.

Go60Guy




msg:3400277
 7:01 pm on Jul 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Dangerman - just put your head down and plow ahead. You should not have had to defend what you're planning. Accept my good wishes.

malachite




msg:3400287
 7:15 pm on Jul 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

To answer Malachite, because the news is iFramed, it is not at odds with my initial intention to place a few paragraphs of content per site. domain + iFramed news + content = site.

Fair enough. No offense intended, hope none taken. Good luck. :)

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