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Your Advice For Click-Bombing Protection
Durnovaria




msg:3292113
 10:08 pm on Mar 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hello everyone.

I'm a newcomer to AdSense and have been reading this forum for a while, trying to learn as much as I can before I get involved with the Google AdSense program.

By far the most concerning aspect is that it appears to me - based on what I have been reading - that a lot of people are frightened half to death about getting banned when they have done nothing wrong. It seems wrong that someone can wipe out someone else's income by the simple act of clicking on their adverts too many times.

So, for me and any other newcomers who read this, could the more experienced AdSense users out there give some advice as to the best way an AdSense user can protect themselves from malicious click activity right from the start - rather than find out when it's too late?

I have read about AdLogger, but I'm not sure if this is the answer.

Thanks very much.

 

Quadrille




msg:3292172
 10:39 pm on Mar 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

It's probably rarer than you'd think; few rivals want to put money in your pocket!

A bigger risk for a newcomer is "helpful" friends clicking crazily to try and make you rich.

But if you are concerned, then monitor activity - and be sure to tell Google before they tell you!

Durnovaria




msg:3292208
 12:12 am on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)


Thanks for your reply.

I'm glad to hear that it is a rare occurrence. From reading the forum (and one or two other forums) the whole banning scenario seems to be subject to some mystical arbiter that has a lot of people scared due to an outrageously insufficient recourse.

What monitoring/blocking tools are there that can be used to protect against these half-witted click-attackers?

Thanks

tdotn




msg:3292370
 7:53 am on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've been with adsense since the beginning, and never had such problem. the adsense team will always work with you.

I think 80% of the 'kids' who say they are innocent, they're not.

Quadrille




msg:3292376
 8:23 am on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

And of the 20% who are innocent, 90% have still got themselves to blame; honest mistakes are not a crime - but not adsense's fault, either. You'd be amazed how many people don't even read the FAQ, let alone the more detailed 'small print'. then, when it goes pear shaped - blame Gooooooogle :)

Deester




msg:3292543
 1:09 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

blame Gooooooogle :)

Thats in the job spec for becoming a webmaster! - LOL

sailorjwd




msg:3292572
 1:54 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

It is more likely you'll be killed coming home from the local pub.

Quadrille




msg:3292575
 1:58 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

That'll teach you to fiddle with adsense while driving ;)

Matt Probert




msg:3292577
 2:04 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

the best way an AdSense user can protect themselves from malicious click activity

Don't worry about it. Just abide by the terms of agreement, and you'll find everything is fine. The folks at Google are not stupid.

Matt

Durnovaria




msg:3292660
 4:49 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)


Thanks for the reassurance everyone.

I won't be in that initial 80%, nor will I be in the 90% of the remaining 20%!

So I'll be in the remaining 2% of sitting ducks, hoping I don't get my head shot off!

:-)


londrum




msg:3292662
 4:53 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

the forum can sometimes make you feel that adsense is one headache after another--but it's not as bad as that in real life.
when something goes wrong, people talk about it. but when everything is okay (99.9% of the time), they don't bother.

Durnovaria




msg:3292701
 5:55 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)


Yes, I appreciate what you are saying there.

As a newcomer to AdSense and to the forum I can say that the apparent random banning subject is most prevalent, so caused me the biggest worry!

DamonHD




msg:3292750
 7:30 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

There's a lot of FUD about, often shouted by those with something to hide!

AS is fine. It's not a bucket of free money, but it is fairly hassle-free.

DO NOT rely on it as your main source of income; it's too variable for that for a start.

Rgds

Damon

joelgreen




msg:3292858
 10:21 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

You cannot avoid being click attacked. But following may help:

- Be good to your site visitors, because some angry person is a potential click-bomber.
- Do not be too good because some grateful person can decide to click multiple times to increase you earnings
- never place a note like "click on my ads" or "do not click on my ads". Both would attract attention to ads, potentially leading to click bombing (it is also AdSense TOS infringement)
- notify AdSense Support as soon as you notice unusual activity. Always.

The last item is the most important. It will help you to recover in case you got banned.

Durnovaria




msg:3292895
 11:27 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)


Thanks Damon and Joel.

What is FUD? It took me a while to work out the abbreviations used on this forum when I first started coming here, but I haven't come across that one!

:)

malachite




msg:3292899
 11:39 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

What is FUD?

Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

notify AdSense Support as soon as you notice unusual activity. Always.

Absolutely. I had a problem with a 'click-happy' idiot the other day. I immediately notified Adsense (who'd already dealt with the situation by not crediting the clicks), but I like to hope that contacting them and offering logs to help them identify the culprit counts for something.

I also like to hope that aside from the occasional mistake, Google is clever enough to be able to determine whether the clicks have come from the publisher's machine or from elsewhere. In most cases where someone's been banned, there's usually more to it than we're ever made aware of here on WebmasterWorld.

We've also seen several cases where G has made a mistake, the publisher can be reinstated once they've completed investigations.

Basically, Adsense's advice to me was stay within TOS, notify us of anything suspicious and we'll work with you - just keep your nose clean.

Durnovaria




msg:3292909
 11:50 pm on Mar 25, 2007 (gmt 0)


Thanks Malachite.

Do Google provide all the necessary programs for the AdSense participants to monitor their account effectively?

I was looking at AdLogger and thought that would be a good program to use as well.

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