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Top 10 reasons why Google will shut you down.
I keep hearing this all the time.
Mtlinfo

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 7:27 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hey guys,

I just signed up today for AdSense and i'm wondering if it's a good business desicion here.

You see, I hear all the time on forums like this one that Google has shut people's account down for basically stupid reasons.

They say that Google closed their account because of click fraud but they mention that they never clicked their ads whatsoever. They say that the clicks have been made by competitors who want to shut them down by clicking many times their ads!

Also, others have said that simply by modifying their web pages (where the adsense ads were), they lost their accounts too because by refreshing their pages to see the modifications, that made the ads do a few impressions and you are not allowed to make those impressions!

So what advices would you give me to make sure that my account is not closed by tomorrow (just kidding here)?

Remove the adsense ads when I want to make modifications to my pages to avoid ads impressions? Track the page where the ads are located for click frauds?

It would be nice to have a "Top 10" reasons why Google will shut you down to prevent newbies like me against this nightmare of having a lucrative business getting shut down overnight.

If there is a similar thread regarding things to watch for, please send me the link.

Thanks

Rick

 

jomaxx

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 7:32 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'll bet those 2 explanations aren't in the top 10 reasons why accounts really get terminated.

Read the Program Policies and the T&C document. Don't click your own ads for any reason, ever. Make sure you don't even come close to bending the rules until you've been hanging out here for a while. You'll be fine.

bobothecat



 
Msg#: 3265766 posted 7:40 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

So what advices would you give me to make sure that my account is not closed by tomorrow (just kidding here)?

1) Actually read and abide by the Terms... it's pretty simple really.

2) Don't believe everything you hear :)

Quadrille

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 8:00 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

If you visit the average prison, you'll probably find that 99% of inmates are innocent, while 1% misheard the question.

I don't think ex-adsense users are quite in that league (well, most of them), but I'd be a little sceptical of the claims. I've seen many 'innocents' telling us what they'd done wrong, clearly having never read the TOS, and others have been caught out changing their stories.

That's not to say that Adsense is perfect. But it's significantly safer than bungee jumping. :)

Shawn Steele

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 8:38 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I agree with Quadrille. I've seen tons of threads where they change their story after someone finds the exact same thread on another forum with a different reason. In short, If you have a quality site with quality visitors, Google wants you to keep making them money. And if you have enough traffic, you'll get a personal account rep who will basically watch over your account for you.

Huntster

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 8:45 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Also, others have said that simply by modifying their web pages (where the adsense ads were), they lost their accounts too because by refreshing their pages to see the modifications, that made the ads do a few impressions and you are not allowed to make those impressions!

If they ever banned me for that - they can go "you-know-what" themselves.

I'm pretty sure they can tell same ip of the person doing it and know that this is almost a necessity when updating to see the ads you are getting.

I don't believe most of these stories anyway.

BigDave

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 8:49 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

While it is possible that someone who is "innocent" can be banned, it is incredibly rare. It certainly is not something that you should be worrying about when you've only had AdSense on your site for one day.

As others have pointed out, most of those "I didn't do anything wrong" stories are found to be bogus.

Pengi

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 8:52 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

If you click your own ads your will get banned.

If you ask others to click your ads you will get banned.

If you are associated (by Google) with someone who is banned, then you will be banned.

If you blatantly breach or ignore the Google Terms and Conditions you will be banned.

Stay on the straight and narrow, and you should have no problems.

By the way - you do not need to remove AdSense when checking your site - I do not think your own impressions will be a problem. Although they may affect your statistics if they are a significant proportion of the total impressions.

Mtlinfo

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 9:37 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yes, I Know.... I know I have to read those @$#$%% TOS pages.. arghh what a pain.

Who reads these 10 page contracts anyway! I guess now I don't have the choice. The only question I have here is that since i'm not a lawyer, I don't know if I will understand every concept presented there.

Any big ones I need to focus on?

- Don't click your own ads (I get this one).

It would be nice to have a thread just on this TOS section where we remove the boring stuff and just take out the main lines.

sailorjwd

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 9:40 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Don't tell your 'friends' or relatives or girl friends what you are doing.

They may click your ads to help you or post nude pictures of you on the net.

BigDave

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 9:47 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Who reads these 10 page contracts anyway!

The ones that *do* read those 10 page contracts are usually the ones that *do not* start the "I've been banned" threads.

When someone puts a long contract in front of you, you should consider it an opportunity to learn, rather than grumble about it.

The fact is that most "legalese" is clearer than regular English, once you take the time to understand what is being said. Things in legalese aren't very ambiguous.

SEOPTI

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 10:36 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Is there a way to request a personal account-rep?

Quadrille

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 12:22 am on Feb 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Don't rewrite the code; don't click your own ads ... most of the TOS are basically common sense.

Areas to read carefully are how many ad blocks, what can appear (or not appear) on the same page.

If in doubt, ask them - or ask here.

kazisdaman3

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 2:36 am on Feb 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Just follow the rules.

amen to what everyone else is saying.

And if u do accidently click, send them an email and let them know.

Its one thing to do something wrong, then the other people guess. but just telling people whats going on makes all the difference.

Sometimes is not how much money is on the line, is what is going on, and the person paying out, what information do they know about the situation. If the person receiving cash tells the person giving out money whats going on its fine, not knowing, is what will likely get u banned, because they will guess what is wrong.

rocker

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 2:59 am on Feb 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Don't relentlessly spam guest books, forums or social networks with links to your site. Also, do not send out any unsolicited spam email.

inactivist

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 6:59 am on Feb 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

When someone puts a long contract in front of you, you should consider it an opportunity to learn, rather than grumble about it.

The fact is that most "legalese" is clearer than regular English, once you take the time to understand what is being said. Things in legalese aren't very ambiguous.

10 Points.

incrediBILL

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 8:08 am on Feb 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

You see, I hear all the time on forums like this one that Google has shut people's account down for basically stupid reasons.

Why, do you plan on giving them a stupid reason to shut your account down?

Many of us have been in AdSense for years without a problem.

BTW, I must ask, why did you sign up if you thought it was a bad business decision?

Signing up for AdSense itself sounds like a bad business decision if you thought it was a bad idea in the first place.

meridien

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 11:24 am on Feb 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

i use adsense since 8 month without problems
But they send me a warning a month ago for wrong activity on my account,but they didn't say what exeactly was wrong
i don't understand what exactly was the problem and i'm sure i have done nothing wrong or against TOS and i think it was a small thing but i would like to understand what

cornwall

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 11:41 am on Feb 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Who reads these 10 page contracts anyway! I guess now I don't have the choice. The only question I have here is that since i'm not a lawyer, I don't know if I will understand every concept presented there.

....It would be nice to have a thread just on this TOS section where we remove the boring stuff and just take out the main lines.

Google sends me thousands of dollars every month, it would be STUPID of Google not to have a contract with me.

I read their contract, I would be STUPID not to have read the contract.

Both sides abide by the contract it would be STUPID of us not to do so.

And for the record Google AdSense polices runs to THREE pages, NOT TEN pages.

Anybody not prepared to read these THREE pages and understand them, really should not be taking part in the AdSense program, and if they do, would stand a higher than average chance of being thrown out.

cornwall

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 11:50 am on Feb 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

And should you need it here is the
Google AdSense Policies list
[google.com] that they ask you to read and agree to.

The additional legal document may appear more complicated, but Google have taken the trouble to distil out the essentials. When you sign up for AdSense, the above link is given for you to tick that you have read.

[edited by: encyclo at 7:02 pm (utc) on Feb. 28, 2007]
[edit reason] fixed link [/edit]

Jafo

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 5:29 pm on Feb 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

After watching this forum for the last year, here is what seems to be the top reasons for getting banned:

1. No Reason. "I has edea bannd why i has beened"

2. Never clicking your own ads. "I have never clicked any of my own ads on my 68% CTR site"

3. Friends. "I think my friends have been clicking my ads, not me of course, I would never do that"

4. Click-Attacks. "I think I was click attacked, someone keeps clicking a lot of ads on one channel. I refuse to mention this to adsense support since I enjoy the profits"

5. Inappropriate Content. "I have a question, can I put ads on my bestiality site? I put the AS code on these pages, but a month later I thought it might be smart to ask now"

Matt Probert

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Msg#: 3265766 posted 5:34 pm on Feb 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

I too am a business publisher, as distinct from a hobbyist, and I had to think long and hard before trialling Adsense (it is still on probation).

I read the terms and conditions, and stick to them - I don't discuss the revenues I receive for example.

I think you should trial it, if the account is closed unfairly, put it down to experience and move on, you'll lose very little.

Matt

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