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Google is clicking its own ads in my site!
I wanna die !
fischermx




msg:3259484
 10:25 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm developing an adsense tracker and I can't believe what I'm seeing in my logs.
I saw a single visitor with 12 clicks. I just have one adsense unit per page, so it seemed a bit alarming.
It was a 7 pageviews, the UserAgent seems a normal IE 6.0 user. It arrived from a SERP (Google of course) after looking for a keyword I rank for.
Then, I looked, which country it could be ... US, which state? CA ... which city? Mountain View ...
Funny coincidence, I thought, then, I checked the whois for the IP and it is a Google IP!

Please, please, tell me any theory you have for this, I'm willing to listen.

 

Pengi




msg:3259491
 10:28 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

What you are seeing is the google bots checking the pages.

I don't believe these are "clicks" or that that are any charges associated with them.

Whenever to publish or edit a new page showing Adsense, you will see a visit from Mountain View.

fischermx




msg:3259499
 10:34 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't want to sound racist, please don't take it bad.
But I see the most clickers from India, Iran, Pakistan, Korea, Philippines, Malaysia, etc. I mean, in a Pageview/Adsense clicks ratio.

I wonder if a Google employee in other area doesn't know what Adsense ads are....
Or may be he/she genuinely wanted to meet all the companies advertised (I have super-targeted ads in a tech niche).

fischermx




msg:3259503
 10:36 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

What you are seeing is the google bots checking the pages.

Which Google bot is reading javascript, interpreting it and following the links on it?

Note, that I'm not reading the server logs, but my home made tracker.

Plus, I don't think Google Bot have to search a keyword on Google and follow the links on SERPS, the click on the ads!, Note that I explained this in the OP.

jomaxx




msg:3259528
 11:02 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

Google may well have a block on charging advertisers for clicks from Google's own IP block.

frox




msg:3259533
 11:08 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)


tell me any theory you have for this, I'm willing to listen.

Theory:
You did something that sounded suspicious to Google, maybe while developing your click tracker.

This triggered a manual review: a Guy from Google came to inspect your ads, and tested your ads to check if they were working ok, or if you were "intefering" with the mechanism...

Perhaps you are you using ca-test as a pub-id in some test page, and they wanted to see what was happening...

perfectlover




msg:3259534
 11:09 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't want to sound racist, please don't take it bad. But I see the most clickers from India, Iran, Pakistan, Korea, Philippines, Malaysia, etc. I mean, in a Pageview/Adsense clicks ratio.

How does it related to you? If people from third world countries are clicking on your ads how they are getting paid and it is you who are getting money..
So don't write something you are not sure of.

fischermx




msg:3259541
 11:18 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

jomax:

I hope you're right and they have a filter.

frox:
Very good theory, thanks. I do use the testing id's but never from my site, I do that all on a development machine. This tracker has been running since June, I think that's not the problem. But just recently I'm generating reports from the collected data so, I realized this.
Respecting "This triggered a manual review: a Guy from Google came to inspect your ads.", remember: the guy came from a google search for my keyword, I see that in the referral.

perfectlover:
I don't understand what you understood. I just said that US visitors, according to my stats, are not very "clickers" and less much a Google employee.
And I just said that, according to my stats, the people who are more prone to click google ads are from those countries.
So, respecting "So don't write something you are not sure of. " , again, according to my stats, I'm sure of.

fischermx




msg:3259553
 11:31 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

Guys, you know what, I didn't realize it was at 3:00AM!

Do they work that hard?

I now think it was a sort of bot, then, one that tests the ads behavior. But it was a hidden bot then, because it was not identified as so.

fischermx




msg:3259564
 11:47 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

More fun stuff:

I searched by IP and I see human visitors in the past from that IP. In the past visits they didn't click anything, but one visit came from an adword campaign.
This site is techie, so I don't see it strange if I get visits from there, just I didn't see it before.

The fun is this: I saw another visitor from the same IP visiting an artist fan website I have with mmmh partial nudes (not with adsense, of course!) in working hours! LOL

More fun: other visitor from Google complex used Live.com to find my site (the techie, not the artist)!

swa66




msg:3259574
 12:04 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

What's the big deal, Google employs how many? They all get 20% "free" project time if they have a good personal project, so I can imagine them act like regular visitors every so often.

It's just like we can click ads when surfing *other* websites.

As for posting surfing habits of individual visitors in a public forum, no matter where they work, that is violating privacy in my book (and to the letter of the law where I live as well (INAL))

walkman




msg:3259579
 12:08 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

>> What's the big deal, Google employs how many? They all get 20% "free" project time if they have a good personal project, so I can imagine them act like regular visitors every so often.

Dear Googlers,
as you know the quarter ends next week. Please use the 20% of the time wisely; we could use a good quarter in Adsense revenue.

sincerely,
... :-)

probably Goog has their corporate IPs excluded from the totals.

fischermx




msg:3259635
 1:18 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)


As for posting surfing habits of individual visitors in a public forum, no matter where they work, that is violating privacy in my book

Don't get paranoid. Can you identify the people I was talking about? I think you don't.
So, who's privacy is violated here?
Again, that's paranoid.

Go out more often, there are thousands of sites which stats are public and indexed!

Key_Master




msg:3259654
 1:42 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Don't sweat it. Most likely it's a visitor using Google Web Accelerator or another Google proxy service.

incrediBILL




msg:3259679
 2:03 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

OK people, you all need to take a deep breath and relax.

Whenever to publish or edit a new page showing Adsense, you will see a visit from Mountain View.

But that will say MediaPartners of Googlebot in the user agent, not IE 6.0!

Google has proxy services which sends traffic to sites that is NOT google's bots or employees. Possible suspects include the translation services, their mobile proxy and the web accelerator to mention a few.

Could be a Google employee testing something on your site, but if it isn't, I certainly wouldn't be too concerned one way or the other because if Google can't stop click fraud coming through it's own IP addresses then AdSense will never survive.

[edit]step away for a bit and key_master beats me to it[/edit]

[edited by: incrediBILL at 2:05 am (utc) on Feb. 22, 2007]

icedowl




msg:3259784
 4:31 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Some months ago I had a visitor that appeared to be a Google employee who searched for some information using MSN to arrive at one of my sites. From what I could tell the IP was within Google's corporate network.

He/She (probably a She due to the words used in the search) seemed to just be doing some typical surfing, perhaps on a lunch hour, planning to use the information once she was back at home. Probably just an office worker not in a technical position.

FWIW.

joelgreen




msg:3260052
 10:57 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

My site also have visitors from Google corporate network. I used to ask AdSense support if I'm not sure if something is ok. So these visits could be just checking site to answer question. Also someone (maybe few) could "report" your site as "violating TOS", etc. and Google employees could check it.
Also seems like they have some people manually reviewing (maybe randomly/maybe by earnings/maybe top keywords) sites. That could easily be manual site review.

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