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A Little Tos Breaking Trick That I Must Ask About
I Am Fully Aware Of The Tos
jonaspersson75



 
Msg#: 3259317 posted 8:26 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

for some of the banners, you can modify the height parameter and thus "remove" the "ads by google" text/image by making it invisible (unless the user scrolls down in the iframe).

i asked google about this and they told me it's against the tos (they don't say!) but would google really ban me if i did this, BUT added my own custom "Ads by Google" and make it clear that it is an advertisement from google?

mainly the reason i wanna do this is that i, like everyone else, freakin' HATE the very sharp and underlined default text they use.

i really dont get why us non premium adsense publishers dont get access to the tools the big boys do. why limit us to ugly looking crap? adsense can ruin any layout as it currently stands.

i fully know that this is against the tos, but i am prepared to try it out. google really doesnt ban anywho who makes them money. i have seen thousands of sites that heavily violate the TOS but they are big boys and i even reported them, but the sites are still there and with adsense ads.

google only cares if they have a reason to ban you. as long as you make them money this would be accepted. but if you are worthless in their eyes they will just see this as a good excuse to ban you.

you have been warned, but it works. just dont forget to add your custom text, or else it really is not justifable!

 

jatar_k

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 8:30 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

>> but would google really ban me if i did this

if they find out, yes they would, and they probably wouldn't let you back in

I don't think it's worth it

jomaxx

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 11:00 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

You're gonna do this because you don't like the font they use? Way to pick your battles. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

jonaspersson75



 
Msg#: 3259317 posted 11:19 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

not the font, but its extreme contrast in color and underline. and you cannot center it.

LifeinAsia

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 11:31 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

google really doesnt ban anywho who makes them money.

Tell that to the people whose accounts have been terminated while they had thousands of dollars sitting in their accounts.

If you're determined to do it, then by all means go ahead. Just don't expect any sympathy when you post the inevitable "I've been banned" post. And when you do post that message, please make sure you include the "I was doing something Google explicitly told me not to do" part.

jonaspersson75



 
Msg#: 3259317 posted 11:42 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

> Tell that to the people whose accounts have been terminated while they had thousands of dollars sitting in their accounts.

i frankly don't believe those.

jomaxx

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 11:53 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

Good, don't believe them.

You've only been a member here for 3 days, and you've started about 10 different rant threads. Have you only been using AdSense for 3 days, or has the pressure been building and building?

jonaspersson75



 
Msg#: 3259317 posted 11:56 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

i have been lurking here for years and used adsense since 2003.

jatar_k

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 12:42 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

believe me when I tell you

yes you will be banned if caught

yes, what LifeinAsia said is quite true, whether you believe is neither here nor there

as jomaxx said, bad battle to pick

if you blatantly break the TOS and get caught you'll get banned, that's about all there is to the story

koan

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 2:11 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

I can't believe anyone would be willing to take a chance on getting banned for such a small issue.

BillyS

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 2:37 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Q: But would google really ban me if i did this
A: Yes

incrediBILL

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 2:48 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Waiting for "I've been banned" thread coming in 5... 4... 3... 2...

BigDave

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 4:18 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

How much could you be making if you are insisting that your tracker script "must be free"?

Like the others said, go for it and teach us all how it is done.

Personally the look doesn't bother me much. If it did, I wouldn't use Google. It's their game and their rules, if I don't like it, I'll play somewhere else

Powdork

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 7:44 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

You must also consider that Google must provide notice that these are ads, and they must have some control over it's legibility. That's why you're not allowed to alter it.
it would be nice if they gave us some options though.

ann

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 8:00 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

I would like to know how well you do with this so please keep us informed, even the I got banned thread. Now that should make for some interesting reading!

Newbies (to WebmasterWorld) gotta love 'em, bless their ranting little hearts.
:)

Ann

andrewshim

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 8:26 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

yo dude... think about it... maybe you have loads of cash lying around because you don't realize your Adsense account can potentially bring in 20K, 100K, 250K, 500K or even a 1,000,000 bucks ten years down the road (or sooner).

is it worth it? that's like someone handing you a million bucks in cold hard cash and you turning it down because you don't like the color of the money!

or...

if Angelina Jolie came on to you real hot and heavy in her most revealing pink see-through and you turned her down because you don't like pink!

In other words, I'd like to see you around one year down the road, helping other newbies reach the one million that you've reached ... and maybe brag about that pink see-through you kept as a momento!

don't act now, man. stay cool, think straight dude!

;)

Green_Grass

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 8:51 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Some FANTASYistic advice from Andrew.

Couldn't resist..

:-)

potentialgeek

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 9:05 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

You could write Google and give them a heads up. Or write them and request policy change wrt layout flexibility.

p/g

rj87uk

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 10:01 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Could Email Google and ask for them to have an option to change the Ads by Google to fit to the layout of your site the same way you choose a colour or format.

It's up to you... I know if it bothered me I would just Email google and talk to them about possible solutions.

jonaspersson75



 
Msg#: 3259317 posted 10:45 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

some of you didn't seem to read my full post.

those who say that i should move away from google... like i asked in another thread there probably isn't much of an alternative.

and those who say that i should e-mail google... i have done that many times but they never listen to my advice.

Jolly_Roger

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 10:48 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Consider that when someone raises their minimum font size less of the text fits in the box. The first thing to go is the 'ads by Google' -- and usually that's the only thing to go.

If you shrink the box, ad text will disappear under such conditions. Google surely knows that and surely won't like it!

darkmage

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3259317 posted 10:50 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Seriously, how much of a bother is it really? I suspect the real reason for hiding the advertiser network logo/text is nothing to do with how pretty it looks. In my experience, the only reason sites try to hide or alter the logo (in this case Ads by Google) is when they are trying to obfuscate the fact they are actually ads or they may change the wording/style to encourage clicking.

Personally, the statement 'i have been lurking here for years and used adsense since 2003.' is a bit incongruous with the types of questions asked by jonaspersson75 and the joining date of Feb 18, 2007.

jonaspersson75



 
Msg#: 3259317 posted 10:57 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

fine. don't believe me, darkmage, but it's the truth. i have been wondering a few things for several years, but not came about to ask about them.

and NO, i am NOT trying to HIDE the fact that they are ADS! please READ my original post! in it, i specifically mention that you MUST add your own "Ads by Google" text, but i made mine centered and not underlined. now it looks just like the premium accounts' google ads.

do you understand? big players already do exactly this, only i have to hack around it.

incrediBILL

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 11:18 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

do you understand? big players already do exactly this, only i have to hack around it.

Do YOU understand?

You're NOT a big player and your contract FORBIDS what you're doing!

If you get penalized, you only have yourself to blame.

Hack THAT!

biscuit

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3259317 posted 11:20 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Indeed you are not a 'big player' Jonaspersson. I would ponder the reasons for that - and ask myself if this is the right strategy for becoming one ...

jonaspersson75



 
Msg#: 3259317 posted 11:56 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

why does every other site i see violate the TOS without getting banned?

jatar_k

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Msg#: 3259317 posted 1:42 pm on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

it's not really about them is it

like parents say

if everyone else jumped off a bridge, would you?

just don't do it, there's no point to it except to get banned.

europeforvisitors



 
Msg#: 3259317 posted 2:07 pm on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Why feed the troll?

Just don't show any sympathy when another "innocent" publisher gets banned. :-)

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