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linkasaur




msg:3164589
 5:41 am on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi everyone. Great site here!

I had a member post a thread in my forum asking how earnings are made and how they can help by clicking.

I have no idea how to answer this question and not be in trouble for encouraging clicks.

Can I answer with something like "Just click the ads that interest you" or should I avoid answering it at all?

This is my first google scare, by the way! :)

 

netchicken1




msg:3164625
 6:43 am on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I posted this to my mods on my forum, they were getting too enthusiastic...

Please don't tell people to click the adds (just a head up)

It can backfire horribly!

If google thinks there is a pattern to the clicking on your site, like clicks from one IP more than "normal" you can lose your account for "click fraud".

Its actually a tactic that people use to attack other websites.

Google is scared to death of click fraud now, having been recently hit by a massive lawsuit over it, and heaps of innocent people are getting hit according to web design sites.

So we really need to let people act normally and randomise the clicks.

FortySomething




msg:3164634
 7:20 am on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

You have read the Google TOS I take it? In which case you will be aware that it's prohibited to encourage clicks - period. I'd be inclined to email the poster off forum and let them know that you will get banned if you have invalid clicks, so please don't do it as Google track ALL clicks.

frox




msg:3164644
 7:37 am on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

yes, sticky mail him explaining the situation and remove or edit the thread.

linkasaur




msg:3164655
 7:49 am on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the quick replies. I emailed the member and asked to remove the question.

I guess I was more worried on how to answer...I understand the TOS, but I just didn't want to take any chances with this one.

I appreciate all of your replies. Thanks again!

DonMateo




msg:3164693
 8:53 am on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think it's good practice to automatically filter for certain words and ensure that you don't display adsense on pages containing any of those words. i.e. if the word "click" appears on your page then don't display adsense. Better lost profit than getting booted.

miguelito




msg:3164729
 10:04 am on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

If i were you i would simply email with the message "it's illegal to talk about the ads in public"

Strange people inhabit forums etc and some are horrendous trolls, if you let it be known that talking about the ads can be damaging to your account/site, you open the door even wider to all sorts of nasty scenarios.

When it happens on my forum sites, if the post seems genuine then i will take the time to PM the member and explain why i removed their post but most of the time i don't bother, just delete it. If they are dumb enough to think it's ok to tell people to click ads on a page then they are too dumb to understand your explanation as to why not to do it.

You have me scared that your moderators persist in this type of behaviour though , how old are they? 12?

spaceylacie




msg:3165559
 10:31 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

When my forum members ask about how the site makes money to support expenses/how they can help, I simply tell them that the best way to support the site is by being an active contributing(not money, info) member. Expenses were planned for and prepared for before the site ever started so they needn't worry about it, just enjoy themselves and participate.

TheTraveler




msg:3165561
 10:37 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

You could create an Adwords/Adsense sign-up page and have them sign-up to use Goodle's programs on their own sites. I think that kind of referral is perfectly legit.

jomaxx




msg:3165599
 11:15 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I agree with the more conservative advice. Don't even answer "no", just delete the thread ASAP and email the poster privately that discussion of the ads is not allowed.

linkasaur




msg:3165807
 5:21 am on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi miguelito,

My moderators are actually aware of the google TOS. This question was posed from a member. I sure hope they aren't suggesting stuff like that! :)

spaceylacie, thanks for that suggestion. I really like it a lot!

I went ahead and edited that stuff out of the topic. Again, thanks to everyone for the great advice!

Hoss

MThiessen




msg:3166519
 12:32 am on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>I think it's good practice to automatically filter for certain words and ensure that you don't display adsense on pages containing any of those words. i.e. if the word "click" appears on your page then don't display adsense. Better lost profit than getting booted.<<<

This is foolish advice. There are literally millions of pages that have the word "click" in them. Like "click here for more information" or "detail page is just a click away".

The word "click" on your site most certainly does NOT get you banned.

Sunflux




msg:3166675
 4:16 am on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Delete the thread. Google's automated bots will find it and you'll get a message telling you to correct the violations on your page.

I had a long, old thread where someone was asking where to buy a product and some other member replied to "click the ad at the top of the page". At the time a particular advertiser had bought exclusive rights to that forum. Fast forward many months later when that advertiser is gone and AdSense is now being rotated on screen... and I get an automated email...

[edited by: Sunflux at 4:21 am (utc) on Nov. 24, 2006]

DonMateo




msg:3171844
 11:04 am on Nov 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>I think it's good practice to automatically filter for certain words and ensure that you don't display adsense on pages containing any of those words. i.e. if the word "click" appears on your page then don't display adsense. Better lost profit than getting booted.<<<

This is foolish advice. There are literally millions of pages that have the word "click" in them. Like "click here for more information" or "detail page is just a click away".

The word "click" on your site most certainly does NOT get you banned.

Well I was just giving you an example of what could be done. When dealing with user-generated content I think it is better to be cautious and exclude ads on pages with certain words until you've had a chance to review those pages.

Most of the time the work click is going to be fine. But why take the chance? Don't show ads on such pages until you've had a chance to review the page, then if you see that the phrase is ok re-enable the ads. I certainly don't think this is foolish advice. It may take just one user to post "click the ads" to get you booted (or at least warned.)

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