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Adsense + ValueClick
greedy player




msg:3150924
 3:09 am on Nov 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

is it okay to use valueclick image banners non-contextual with Adsense,

I started using valueclick and within 1 hour I made over 120$... and decided while my adsense is not active (because they are holding my payments) i'd run them together.

I heard many people use valueclick as their public service ad replacement, and I just want to clarify this.. not that I'll need adsense anymore since 120$ in 1 hour to me is more than I could earn on adsense even when I was earning 500-1000$ day on adsense.

Regards,
GP.

 

rbacal




msg:3150958
 3:45 am on Nov 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Make sure you disable VC ads that may mimic text ads.

greedy player




msg:3150977
 4:09 am on Nov 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks, how do you do this?

Also I just watched in delight of the hourly graph on ValueClick, it's so sexy... Hourly Graphs in my currency at high rates WOOHOO!.

(sleeps and waits for morning)

FortySomething




msg:3152540
 2:48 pm on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

So are they showing adsense ads or not?

If they aren't showing up, then you can show whoever's ads you like. Valueclick/fastclick ads are fine with adsense anywayprovided they arent the (useless) contextual version.

I find the amount you get from valueclick in comparison to Google to be a little unbelievable. Not a case of sour grapes perchance ;) I run both, and Google has ALWAYS earned roughly twenty times what FC/VC earns me.

Erku




msg:3153249
 2:22 am on Nov 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does Valueclick with it's lower CPM pay more than Adsense?

Interesting

greedy player




msg:3153259
 2:46 am on Nov 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Value click went to bottom, adsense is still earning better while my ads display, my fundings are on hold.. and I've sent numerous log files and so forth to google.

I'll be sending a nice apache.log file now.. :)

FortySomething




msg:3153270
 3:25 am on Nov 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

So was it yes, they are showing ads, or no they are not showing ads?

Compworld




msg:3153303
 4:59 am on Nov 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just default Valueclick to Adsense. You can run text ads, just not contextual ads on the same page as Google. I have a feeling though when MSFT comes out with their platform, Google will be changing this position.

greedy player




msg:3153443
 11:39 am on Nov 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

They are showing ads and income is going up... but the funds are placed on a temporary hold while its under review.. it's sad because this has been going on since 20th oct.. no reply since

Compworld




msg:3153601
 3:59 pm on Nov 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Try other CPM networks then. You should not limit yourself to just one network.

Pengi




msg:3153689
 5:54 pm on Nov 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

So are you still running Adsense despite not receiving any money from Google?

Did we miss the post where you were exonerated and Googel started paying you again?

If google aren't paying for adsense then remove adsense - problem solved.

[edited by: Pengi at 5:55 pm (utc) on Nov. 11, 2006]

FortySomething




msg:3153782
 7:56 pm on Nov 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you aren't getting any money from Google, and valuefactclick are doing SOOOO much better for you than google did, why not just dump google and use the space for whatever earns you most money?

I know I would. Sorry, but there is something really, really wrong here.

hunderdown




msg:3153900
 11:56 pm on Nov 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Oh, I don't think you should assume that, 40some. I think GP has great faith in his site and in Google. His site is under review now, but he is confident that he will be reinstated.

Why lose earnings by taking AdSense off the site?

Compworld




msg:3153978
 2:22 am on Nov 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

However, if it ends badly, then you are out the current money you are currently earning, but not being paid. Chances are, Google will make it tough to get your payments. I would agree and take them down for the time being. Put either Yahoo (if your traffic is mainly US based), or choose another ad network to use. If you get your money from Google, then place them back in rotation. Just my opinion though....

FortySomething




msg:3154138
 8:10 am on Nov 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

Oh, I don't think you should assume that, 40some. I think GP has great faith in his site and in Google. His site is under review now, but he is confident that he will be reinstated.
Why lose earnings by taking AdSense off the site?

Silly me. (slapping my forehead with my palm) why didn't I think of that? Makes sense the way you explain it ;)

I was just thinking that whilst under review I'd be showing ads that actually paid. Especially as they pay him so much better than Google do anyway - apparently.

greedy player




msg:3154414
 5:57 pm on Nov 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

the e-mail states 'if we continue to observe invalid clicks' then that usualy means they need new data to work out of my site traffic is genuine or not, to automaticly lift the hold?

Anyway guys, thanks for caring, valueclick is random somedays it makes 10-20$ , someday 200$, someday 60$... but really it's down to it not showing much impressions, a buggy code? or what I don't know, i might try their none-js version of ads maybe theres some kinda bug.

Peace.

OptiRex




msg:3154442
 6:51 pm on Nov 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

the e-mail states 'if we continue to observe invalid clicks'

So you've had a real response from them or a canned one?

fearlessrick




msg:3154683
 12:47 am on Nov 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

greedy player,
I've been using VC with AdSense for over a year and it's not the code (keep the js version, BTW), but what you need to do is disable Auto Select and choose the ads you want because if you use Auto Select (they choose the ads) your earnings will eventually go lower. They have CPC and CPM ads, so you need to learn the system. Kill ads below a certain targeted CPM. Your fill will likely be lower, but your ECPM will be higher overall. That's what works for me.

I would imagine the huge fluctuation you are seeing is due to PPC ads, as they often will really hoist your earnings, but when people don't click on them, you get NADA, and having Auto Select on, they will serve more and more CPC ads, and less better earning CPM.

OTOH, if you are getting lots of clicks, stick with a mix of CPC and CPM, but kill some of the lower paying CPC. Either way, you'll want to NOT auto select.

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