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Worried about an Educational Site
Surely will be visited by students on Same IP
explorador

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 2:45 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm working on a new web to diversify my AS options. Imagine it is "all about widgets". The amount of research I'm doing, and the whole site itself, will make this page very consulted by students as there is no other site so complete...

I worry about universities, schools and so, as their computers share the same IP and AS might see this as clic fraud.

I will launch the site next year but Im worried... Should I?

 

Jordo needs a drink

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 3:00 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

As BigDave says in this thread [webmasterworld.com ] , contact adsense and let them know what your doing so they can annotate your account.

explorador

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 3:20 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Nice input,

(letting know AdSense before launching the site) thanks, interesting thread. I have several ideas right now.

Using perl or php, I could print the Adsense code only [b]one time a day[b] to one IP. So, ten dif ips will mean ten adsense ads showing, chances are, for dif person. This way, if 10 students form the same lab (with same ip) visit the site, only one would see the Ad...

Might take down the impressions but surely mean less problem with clics, even so, I will ask AdSense first. Thanks again

Pedent

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 5:10 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Please post back here with what you're told. I'm sure there are plenty of people it'll interest (including me).

Thanks.

jomaxx

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 5:32 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

There's no problem with the situation as described at all, as long as the traffic is organic. Google has plenty of experience with schools, businesses, even whole countries, that lie behind firewalls in this way.

The problem (or one of the problems, anyway) in the thread mentioned above was that all the traffic came from the SAME university.

jomaxx

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 5:40 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

P.S. As I mentioned in the aforementioned thread, clicks by kids in the classroom are probably essentially worthless to advertisers, so think through in advance how your site will tie in with e-commerce. In the long run it will be much better to have a website that advertisers are clamoring to be seen on.

steve40

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 6:13 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Best of luck explorer

From my own experience it is not worth putting adsense on a site aimed at purely education and especially at K12 etc as the earnings are poor and do effect other sites through smartpricing

From my own experience if purly educational do it for fun not profit

steve

Bddmed

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 6:15 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

My site is an educational one and has adsense on it. It is linked to and recommended by a lot of governmental sponsored sites as material to use in the classroom.

Many schools have the ads blocked. I don't care about that. It's not in the classroom I want the ads clicked. Many of my visitors are parents, teachers, grandma etc. They click the ads because they are relevant to them. I never had any problem with Google whatsoever.

I think you're perfectly fine building a educational site. But expect to get (lower paying) educational ads also.

Bddmed

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 6:20 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

From my own experience it is not worth putting adsense on a site aimed at purely education

Do you have experience, or are you just guessing. If you build an authoritative site in the educational sector, I can assure you that it all sums up really nice in the end.

steve40

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 6:57 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Bddmed

You may well be right I only spoke from my own experience and education itself is a varied subject area , I only have a small site targetted to one subject area with 50% of my visitors being kids from middle school , I could see other area's that I am not targetting being viable .

I made the decision that for the small figure I earnt I preferred to leave the site add free

did not mean to offend you or antone else with a well performing well earning education site just the area I picked is not viable

steve

Bddmed

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 7:07 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

No offense Steve. Just wanted to express my view on the picture. And I didn't want anyone discouraged building a educational site because it won't/can't bring in any money.

Indeed it's a big sector and schools have IT budgets too. It's also true when children are using some games/educational software at school they want it at home also.

BigDave

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 7:08 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think there are a lot of areas related to education that are also of interest to advertisers, especially at the college level. I'm just not sure that AdSense is the right program for it.

I would probably mix it up with things like book affiliate ads. If it was one specific school, hit up the advertisers in the school paper for CPM ads. Imagine being a local restaurant and being able to show ads to students doing research right around dinner time.

ronburk

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 7:40 pm on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I worry about universities, schools and so, as their computers share the same IP

Then you need to also worry about AOL, EarthLink, etc., since they have lots of customers sharing the same IP address. And, in fact, might as well worry about the entire planet, since the lion's share of client browsers are sharing an IP address with others during any given day.

More realistically, what you should worry about is a single student deciding to walk around to several machines and just click on each of your ads a couple hundred times.

hyperstat

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 8:55 pm on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have had an educational site for about three years and haven't had any problems. BTW some universities give a unique static IP address to each computer.

explorador

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Msg#: 3150118 posted 8:02 pm on Nov 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for all the advice, really. I'm still working on the project and will publish the website next year taking that in count (letting google AS know about it) so I have something written for future reference.

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