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msg:3090343
 4:19 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm still a newbie, first day here

I only own one site with adsense and my first month is just over.
However a few days ago a close relative did a strange proposal.

He owns 2 "VERY GOOD" domain names, the same domain both .com and .net and when I say very good, it is as good as cars.com/.net or printers.com /.net if you see what I am saying, the kind of domain the ppl just type.

He has owned these domain for about a long time but never used them and he is offering them to me, I am thinking of puting them into Adsense revenue

First dilema, should I point both of them to the same page or build 2 pages

Second I know nothing about that specific niche, do you think selling them is better?

thanks

 

Quadrille




msg:3090363
 4:30 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ifthey are as good as theat, then you'd do best to build a decent site - that will maximise your income, and also maximaise their sale value.

Either go for two completely different sites - or 301 the net to the com. Again, you can still decicde to build a second site later.

ann




msg:3090364
 4:30 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sounds like a little research is in order. I would not sell them---at least not until they were developed.

BTW, welcome to WW :)

Ann

edit> Be careful not to duplicate information on each site. That could mean disaster.

I would just park the .net and develope the .com

Purchasing the .net was probably meant to protect the .com from others who would jump in and register the same domain name and take away the .com's traffic, etc.

GiveMeMore




msg:3090376
 4:38 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

You guys are fantastic and sooo friendly thanks

well the the domain names are really great, do you think that paying for ppl to write articles is a good idea?

Car_Guy




msg:3090438
 5:28 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

It could be, but that question might be better asked in this forum:

Content Usage and Management
[webmasterworld.com...]

OptiRex




msg:3090448
 5:36 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

the kind of domain the ppl just type.

I've read so often that people supposedly do this however how true is it?

I have several type-in domain names and it is very rare that anyone does this however I'm not saying that people do not, maybe they do when they get used to seeing a name like hotels.com?

Are the names simply registered and never been used?

It might well be worth asking in the Domain name forum too for advice and opinions:

[webmasterworld.com...]

mrSEman




msg:3090527
 6:25 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

Do it! Research the topic and build a 10 to 20 page website with good content and a dash of SEO to start.

At worse, if you DON'T get decent traffic from people who just type it, you should still make enough to pay your anual domain reg. and hosting once you get indexed. If it is going to do better your earnings will show it and you can spend some real energy developing it. What do you have to lose?

GiveMeMore




msg:3090556
 6:45 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have several type-in domain names and it is very rare that anyone does this however I'm not saying that people do not, maybe they do when they get used to seeing a name like hotels.com?

Are the names simply registered and never been used?

well yes never used, only an underconstruction page for the past few years, and it is getting an average of 20 hits per day I think it is not bad for a start

hunderdown




msg:3090561
 6:47 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

Take your time and do it right. Read a lot. Think a lot.

sonny




msg:3090570
 6:50 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

If it is as top level as you say, then developing it might not be the best idea as you could cheapen it's value if you decide later to sell it, because that's probably where the real money is.

I think it would be better to keep it a "virgin" domain by parking it at one of the large reseller sites and wait for "deep pockets" to come a' calling; like the owner of beef.com, for example, is doing.

idolw




msg:3090577
 6:52 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

take from him and give to me.
i can offer you 50% of the profits ;)

Alioc




msg:3090628
 7:35 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

Type-in traffic was more valuable in the early days of Internet, when people really didn't have any clue how to find what they were looking for. Today, it's only important as a mean of credibility. "- We're the men!"

Anyway, I wouldn't tie such a quality domain name to AdSense. You should find manufacturers/suppliers/providers, make deals and try to sell "the product". Look at what cars.com and others do. This is the way to monetize that domain name. If you can't do it yourself, find someone who accepts to share the profit or simply rent it for a fixed fee. But yes, don't sell it unless you get a decent offer.

OptiRex




msg:3090715
 8:29 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

only an underconstruction page for the past few years, and it is getting an average of 20 hits per day I think it is not bad for a start

More than likely bots and spiders methinks.

sonny and Alioc have offered very good advice and especially so if you have no in-depth knowledge of the "widget".

Thinking aloud, if they really are such good names then why not try and find out if there is a trade association for the "widget" and contacting the major national and international "widget" magazines and actually ascertain what is happening globally in that "widget" market?

You may find that there are already some well-established players in that market who are not even interested in the name, then again they may make you an offer that's too good to be true.

Incidentally, why on earth did your relative buy these domains and not develop them? Surely they realise such good names should be potentially valuable?

Lucky guy, don't rush into it too quickly and...what did you say the names were? :-))

Car_Guy




msg:3090728
 8:35 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

It wasn't that uncommon for that to happen. I remember once overhearing one end of a phone call, as a son excitedly told his mother about the domain names he had looked into that day, asking her which ones she wanted for her birthday.

GiveMeMore




msg:3090742
 8:43 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

More than likely bots and spiders methinks.

Didn't know that bots could send emails too ;) just kidding of course but ppl are also send email to the "contact us" address requesting some info

Moosetick




msg:3090755
 8:53 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think you need to develop the site. How many big sites do you know where the name is exactly what it is about? Have you ever been to...
shoes.com looking for shoe info?
chicken.com looking for chicken recipes?
ringtones.com looking for ringtones?
printers.com looking for printer info?

Perhaps you have, but did you type that in or find them through G? A good domain name can add credibility to a site but I wouldn't expect it to automatically bring in 1000's of hits.

Your other option would be to sell it to a major vendo in that area. I'm sure HP would pay big $$ for printers.com and Tyson would likely be interested in chicken.com.

vite_rts




msg:3090814
 9:37 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

What a generous gift!,

must be a seriously wealthy relative

andrewshim




msg:3090882
 10:31 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

You guys are fantastic and sooo friendly thanks

grrrrowl... no we're not. We're hoping we can sweet talk you to give us the domain name!

Lucky guy, don't rush into it too quickly and...what did you say the names were? :-))

see what I mean? ;)

welcome to WebmasterWorld!

StuntasticAudi




msg:3090935
 11:23 pm on Sep 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

if its not a sex related keyword then i dont think it matters what your domain name is. I mean it does to a point but its not really that big of a deal.

example:
cars.com - i've never used that site when searching for a new or used car

computers.com - never been on it dont know whats on it

if you have a domain name like sex.com then get ready to be a millionare anything else it could be a big thing but its not the most important thing. But if i was you i would keep it anyways.... build the site, market it and see how it goes. Give it about 6 months. If you get great results then you're in good shape..if you're making couple dollars then maybe you should sell it.

WallyWorld




msg:3090981
 12:14 am on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think one word domain names are most valuable because people can remember them - not that people just type in "cars.com", for example.

If you are looking for widgets, most people will do a search for widgets. If they see widgets.com the will remember the domain and consider it a possible authority on widgets. And, the search engines will give it more weight. Either way, one word domain names are valuable.

[edited by: WallyWorld at 12:15 am (utc) on Sep. 21, 2006]

swa66




msg:3091913
 5:22 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

When buying domainnames I generally rather not have had them parked or had "under construction" on them before. It takes a while for the funny content (and the penalties associated with it) to wear off.

I actually had a chat with adsense support on one of my domains producing alternate ads while the content seemed ok, if I renamed the page it would be working, turned out they didn't like somthing that was there in the past that needed manual cleaning a few days later all URLs in the new site started producing better ads.

Type in domainnames need to be _really_ good if you want savvy computer users to type them and click on advertising.

You say about 20 hits now without content that's not much to build on for organic traffic but it's more than nothing.

netmeg




msg:3091925
 5:35 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Incidentally, why on earth did your relative buy these domains and not develop them? Surely they realise such good names should be potentially valuable?

You'd think so, but you might be surprised. Within the past couple of weeks, I helped a friend of one of my partners regain control of her unbelievably good domain name. She works at a tiny little non-profit, and they've had the domain name for well over ten years now - so long, in fact, that the person who took it out for them, and whose contact information shows up on it is no longer around. So they couldn't make any changes to the record or even renew it again, plus it wasn't locked and there had been a couple of attempts to move it without their permission. They were seriously considering just abandoning it and going for something else. I mean, this is a domain that I personally wouldn't be surprised to see go for a million bones on the market. We got it all straightened out and moved over to another registrar and updated and locked, and I told her that if her little non profit ever wanted to go bigtime profit, they had a remarkable asset right there and they better do everything they could to protect it. They had absolutely no idea, and almost let it just run out.

jatar_k




msg:3091926
 5:36 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

as far as what value domains have (which is a little OT for this thread) anyone can wander over to our Domain Names Forum [webmasterworld.com], Webwork and the other regulars can straighten out any misconceptions on the value of type in traffic.

As far as your gift goes GiveMeMore, accept them and sit on them for a bit, do some research into the market. Never sell them, they are like gold.

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