| 1:00 pm on Aug 12, 2014 (gmt 0)|
Since I mentioned the "Panda" word and don't want to cause false alarm to anyone:
My last hour has returned to normal traffic levels.
I did check with my host, and the erratic traffic doesn't seem related to my server.
From what I can tell, Analytics doesn't provide hourly data about organic traffic from Google, so I can't really diagnose what's going on that way.
I looked in WMT. That information lags by a few days but what shows didn't show any significant increase in crawler activity.
Whatever is going on, at least on a short-term basis, is out of my control so it's time to stop looking at hourly data (a bad habit) and get on with regular web work and hope for the best.
| 1:15 pm on Aug 12, 2014 (gmt 0)|
Broadway - you're exactly right - it's out of our hands. I admin many sites and most are seeing a similar dip, which coincides with Algoroo and Mozcast. You just gotta wait it out. This appears to be a pretty big update and or re-index.
Crawl is doing great and my new cms site is being indexed very quickly. Now above the page count of my old html site by 200%. Impressions have found the bottom and have started climbing again.
| 1:27 pm on Aug 12, 2014 (gmt 0)|
I'm seeing highly decreased traffic as well.
Hopefully this is temporary because I don't know how much more I can handle.
Been waiting for a penguin update, but some days it's difficult to even think about it.
| 7:18 pm on Aug 12, 2014 (gmt 0)|
I've been back to normal levels for some hours now.
There's another thread here on WW about a worldwide net outage. I wonder if that is what had affected my stats?
| 9:03 pm on Aug 12, 2014 (gmt 0)|
I was unaffected until this morning (specifically, 10:00 AM EST). Most of the day, Google traffic at the hourly level was down 10%-25% compared to the same day last week. I wasn't able to figure out *why*, though, as all the rankings I checked seemed to be unaffected.
However, starting in the 3:00 PM EST hour, organic traffic has pretty much matched last week's performance.
So I have no idea what's going on.
| 9:11 pm on Aug 12, 2014 (gmt 0)|
A lot of the net was out today for various reasons. This is the first time I've been able to access WebmasterWorld all day, and traffic across many of my sites was down (and is now back close to normal)
| 9:57 pm on Aug 12, 2014 (gmt 0)|
|This is the first time I've been able to access WebmasterWorld all day, and traffic across many of my sites was down (and is now back close to normal) |
I can echo that, here in the UK. Affiliate links were not working, Lots of sites well down on traffic but no changes in SERPs positions. Everything seems OK now. Nothing to be too concerned about, just a hiccup IMO.
| 11:44 pm on Aug 12, 2014 (gmt 0)|
|I can echo that, here in the UK. |
Bizarre, I can't, everything looking unbelievably normal across every metric ... obviously this means I have no freakin' clue as to what's going on in the world:-)
| 10:22 am on Aug 13, 2014 (gmt 0)|
I'm in the UK and have seen the same since the start of the week. No decrease in rank, but low traffic. Everything seems back to normal on the traffic front today. The exact same thing happened on the last Panda update over a period of about a week, I even moaned about it on here somewhere.
| 4:33 pm on Aug 13, 2014 (gmt 0)|
I just ran a rank report and found dozens of new keywords, maybe even hundreds +. Oddly though, traffic is flat as a pancake. It's also quite "zombie" in nature - doesn't convert at all. Deja Vu all over again.
My switchover to CMS last week was quite opportune since G is deep crawling the site and finding many new pages. About 900 compared with my old 70 pages of html (which rocked sales regardless). I'm hoping for a positive outcome...for once.
| 6:31 am on Aug 14, 2014 (gmt 0)|
Something clearly happened here yesterday (UK niche service).
There has bee quite a lot of shifting about on pages 1 & 2 for my main key term: my own site has dropped from #4 to #19, and has been joined by another page from my site at #20. Nearest competitior has fallen from #7 to #13. Top two positions are unchanged, with newcomers at #5, #6, #9 and #10 (#6 is an EMD, and #10 is a directory).
Coupled with a fairly hot Tuesday according to Mozcast, I suspect something - probably substantial - is rolling through.
Paradoxically, traffic and referrals were up on Tuesday, and yesterday was a 2014 high, but referral information is still very patchy in my server logs, so it isn't completely clear what other terms have been affected (my assumption is that the key term loss has been offset by gains elsewhere).
| 1:11 pm on Aug 14, 2014 (gmt 0)|
WF- how does domain crowding look in the UK? It's back to terrible again here in the states. Pinterest is showing 3 to 5 consecutive results in a niche I used to dominate. I've been pushed back to page 2 or worse.
Funny how most of page #1 has become populated with G's ad network pals. It's all about $$$ these days.
| 1:49 pm on Aug 14, 2014 (gmt 0)|
|how does domain crowding look in the UK? |
Oddly, my own site - with pages at #18 and #19 - is the only offender for main key term.
However, in a couple of searches yesterday - I can't now remember the search terms - I did notice it (one in particular had four results from the same site on page 1), and there have been several instances today - like my own, above - where a couple of results from the same site have shown up on the same page. That is possibly one indicator that something is going on, as Google are generally much better at filtering that effect than Bing/Yahoo.
I'm looking more closely at geolocation effects now, as a couple of times I have noticed what might be Pigeon droppings.
Mozcast is showing another warm day yesterday.
| 4:22 am on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
I saw a big increase in traffic beginning at 6:00 am eastern time on Saturday, August 9. Previously I had suffered a 40-45% hit on March 14 and had a slight recovery to a 33% hit two months later. However, since August 9, the site had another recovery and yesterday it was 17% below pre-March 14. I don't know if that is a trend, but it looks like I was favored by whatever happened this past Saturday.
|Martin Ice Web|
| 11:46 am on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
Domain crowding is at high rate. in most cases it is amazon on #1-#4 or a prise compare engine (idealo) at #2-#5
| 12:35 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
For the amount of churn out there, it's sure pretty quiet in here. I assume everyone is happy? or maybe just gave up.
| 1:17 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
|For the amount of churn out there, it's sure pretty quiet in here. I assume everyone is happy? or maybe just gave up. |
A lot of people don't feel Google's updates anymore because small businesses are sitting on page 2+. Whether you rank 24 or 104 does not result in much difference in total net traffic from Google. As Martin Ice Web eluded to, the domain crowding exacerbates the problem to be seen in a search engine that clearly favors large corporations.
| 1:18 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
|For the amount of churn out there, it's sure pretty quiet in here. |
I was thinking that myself.
| 1:33 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
@samwest i've pretty much resigned to the fact there is nothing I can do. I worked my ass off for two years with no results. I'm done obsessing over this stuff. I'm a much more relaxed person now :)
| 1:57 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
There's certainly movement, and I haven't had the opportunity to fully understand what's changing.
There's talk of a Penguin update, which we've all been waiting many months.
| 2:06 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
|There's talk of a Penguin update |
happening? or just talk that we need one?
| 2:49 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
According to the latest information from Google's John Mueller, Panda updates relatively regularly, and Penguin is the one that has not been updated for many months. He indicated the engineers are working on Penguin and he imagines the update is not that far away.
There's certainly talk that we need one, especially for all those that have worked on their sites and made improvements to better match the demands of the algo. Without the update those site don't appear to be getting back in.
What we need to look out for is a complete reindex, preceded by heavy spidering.
[edited by: engine at 2:52 pm (utc) on Aug 15, 2014]
|Martin Ice Web|
| 3:27 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
@samwest, i somewhere read that about 45% of poeple with buying intention are going right away to amazon and don't use SEs for their research anymore. This is a move from 10% to 45% in 4 years. So google lost a hughe amount of users to amazon. I guess that the lack of choices for commercial searches in googles serps will continue to grow this number. so google updates will for ecoms become less important as this SE will become less importsnt for users with buying intention.
| 4:42 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
|I guess that the lack of choices for commercial searches in googles serps will continue to grow this number. so google updates will for ecoms become less important as this SE will become less importsnt for users with buying intention. |
I'm with you on this point. It will also have a profound impact on other online retailers who will find it even more difficult to be found unless they are in Adwords. Even then, they will see less traffic as Google's role in helping match people to product becomes less significant.
|Martin Ice Web|
| 6:36 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
Mrengine, yes but adsense is just like google facing the fact of loosing relevance for users with shopping intentions. Look at amazons new apps for shopping they all cut out the middleman and this is google and then it is us. I read a lot in comments why poeple use amazon and it is all about cheap and u get anything there . Imo the only alternative for this is to show a broadband of good other shopping alternatives, relevant once not paid once. But like google heads behind facebook and tries to be like facebook they now heading behind amazon. Imo a big failure. Like loosing the plot. They don't learn from their google plus failure that is like a desert and now they make the same mistake with amazon. In last years google is not inventing they are just copying.
| 6:47 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
my website got back on first page for different keywords yesterday on 14'th and now on 15'th disappeared again...anynone knows what's happening ?
| 6:57 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
|anynone knows what's happening? |
No, but it does look like some kind of update is in progress.
I wouldn't start worrying or changing anything until it settles and we get some idea of what it invloves.
| 8:39 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
well.. my website disappeared from first page on 28'th June, and came back now on 14'th for my main keywords...and now disappeared again on 15'th aug. so it seems they implemented something and then reverted back :|
| 9:02 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
|@samwest, i somewhere read that about 45% of poeple with buying intention are going right away to amazon and don't use SEs for their research anymore. |
yes, that would just about fit the curve of our losses. Since I sell digital content, I am working on getting my stuff up on Amazon too. Should have done that years ago!
| 9:14 pm on Aug 15, 2014 (gmt 0)|
about the same here, drastic drop in traffic on June 28th, then recovered exactly one month later, and now disappeared again yesterday (same way as on June 28th)… so strange!
|Martin Ice Web|
| 7:45 am on Aug 16, 2014 (gmt 0)|
@samwest, and then finally you will rank on #1 again through amazon.
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