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Does Google even know about the 1,000 "likes" I got this week?
littlecubpanda




msg:4634473
 12:56 am on Jan 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

I implemented a few new social media "like" bars and so far it's been very successful. I'm just wondering if Google even knows about it.

I know they're emphasis social media more and more, but does Google even KNOW about the 1,000 Facebook "likes" I just got this past week? Doesn't the Facebook "wall" prevent those "signals" from being noticed by Google?

 

goodroi




msg:4634555
 11:14 am on Jan 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

The "wall" prevents Google from getting data directly from Facebook. It does not prevent Google from noticing things via chrome browsers, android devices, isp data logs, websites running adsense/analytics and other potential sources. I am not trying to make people feel paranoid but let's be honest there are just many different possible ways to collect data.

If you bought a 1000 fake facebook likes from Fiverr or Craigslist, then you you probably won't see any big boost. If you gained 1000 real facebook likes because you gained 1000 new happy customers, then you will likely see a boost due to a collection of many indirect reasons.

littlecubpanda




msg:4634655
 6:55 pm on Jan 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

They are 100% real likes. I just hope it means something. Thanks for the info.

levo




msg:4634663
 7:16 pm on Jan 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

You can use [schema.org...] , but I've no idea if Google would use it.

Robert Charlton




msg:4634669
 7:53 pm on Jan 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

Regarding levo's the schema.org suggestion, it's in a section called UserLikes...

UserLikes
http://schema.org/UserLikes [schema.org]

Thing > Event > UserInteraction > UserLikes

It's intriguing to me that schema.org has such a section. See the bottom of the page which provides an overview of the types of potential interactions (ie, one level higher in the breadcrumb) for more details...

UserInteraction
http://schema.org/UserInteraction [schema.org]

The page lists more specific types of interactions, and also provides sample code showing how any of these might be set up...

UserBlocks
UserCheckins
UserComments
UserDownloads
UserLikes
UserPageVisits
UserPlays
UserPlusOnes
UserTweets

netmeg




msg:4634673
 8:19 pm on Jan 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

Hmm, that's interesting.

Robert Charlton




msg:4634685
 9:45 pm on Jan 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

Hmmm, yes. Seems like you might almost need a wide spectrum analytics package to input it all into your code.

EditorialGuy




msg:4634692
 10:08 pm on Jan 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

Something to keep in mind:

Google has said that "social signals" are "noisy," and that its own Google+ signals aren't ranking factors. So I'd be skeptical about the notion that Google would use Facebook "Likes" as a ranking factor even if tracked such data.

Even when they aren't being gamed, "Likes" are pretty meaningless. With a link, someone has to at least go through the motions of creating a citation. Facebook Likes, on the other hand, occur for all kinds of reasons: to be polite, to support a friend, to say "I think that's cute," to get a discount, to enter a giveway, and so on. (The latter two reasons alone should be enough to make Google leery, since the Likes are, in effect, being bought.)

Robert Charlton




msg:4634702
 10:59 pm on Jan 2, 2014 (gmt 0)

Regarding the noisiness of "Likes", here's a discussion about what their potential value (and non-value) might be and what they might or might not signify... very much worth reading...

Seven Days of Getting Likes
Facebook Advertising
http://www.webmasterworld.com/facebook/4465090.htm [webmasterworld.com]


Also... the schema markup noted above is focused on a very narrow area (events). It's granular enough that it seems to provide some potential for actual analysis... albeit I suspect it would take huge amount of data over a long period of time. It's also not likely that any schema data is going to provide ranking signals on its own, so schema that tracks social signals is a further step removed from being a direct ranking factor.

That said, schema is helpful for Google to use in sorting out aspects of your content. If you think your social signals will benefit from that closer scrutiny, using schema in conjunction with social might be a long term approach worth exploring, but it's very difficult to say that it will. I doubt that "this week", as the OP asks, will enter into it much.

levo




msg:4634732
 1:53 am on Jan 3, 2014 (gmt 0)

Hmmm, yes. Seems like you might almost need a wide spectrum analytics package to input it all into your code.


That reminds me, you can also implement 'social plugin analytics' if you're using Google Analytics - once again assuming that Google would use the data. You can also switch to AddThis/ShareThis plugins [analytics.blogspot.com...]

lucy24




msg:4634737
 2:17 am on Jan 3, 2014 (gmt 0)

From schema dot org:

Original HTML:

1. How to Tie a Reef Knot
2. by John Doe
3. This article has been tweeted 1203 times and contains 78 user comments.

With Schema.org:

1. <div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Article">
2. <span itemprop="name">How to Tie a Reef Knot</span>
3. by <span itemprop="author">John Doe</span>
4. This article has been tweeted 1203 times and contains 78 user comments.
5. <meta itemprop="interactionCount" content="UserTweets:1203"/>
6. <meta itemprop="interactionCount" content="UserComments:78"/>
7. </div>


How does the search engine know that those are real numbers derived from actual tweets/likes/plusses and not just the page designer's unsupported word?

:: idly wondering what types of material would benefit from a high number of reported UserBlocks ::

aristotle




msg:4635324
 7:32 pm on Jan 5, 2014 (gmt 0)

Selling Social Media Clicks Becomes Big Business

Celebrities, businesses and even the U.S. State Department have bought bogus Facebook likes, Twitter followers or YouTube viewers from offshore "click farms," where workers tap, tap, tap the thumbs up button, view videos or retweet comments to inflate social media numbers.

You can read the full article at [npr.org...]

EditorialGuy




msg:4635326
 8:04 pm on Jan 5, 2014 (gmt 0)

The U.S. State Department spent $630,000 on phony Facebook fans? I guess that's one way to funnel foreign aid to Bangladesh!

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