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Toolbar PageRank Updated 6th Dec 2013
noor7300



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 9:34 am on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Guys.. good news, there is a confirmed page rank update by Google just rolled out right now few minutes ago on 6th Dec 2013 and 3:00 PM IST.

Just check your pages and then tell me.

I got huge PR improvement in my site.

How I knew ?
Before two hours I was checking a site who had PR 5 but now when I visited it it was 0... So, I just figured it our by checking whole my site and found all pages are improved. So there is a PR update..

ENJOY !

:-) :)

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karunverma



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 8:12 am on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I just noticed that couple of my site and few of my client's website experience a change in Google PageRank. Anyone else has noticed this?

Thanks!

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whatson

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 10:17 am on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

After 6 or so months Google has finally updated the Toolbar Pagerank. My sites didn't fair very well. How was everyone else's?

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robzilla

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 10:40 am on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Looks like fairly old data, up to about the second half of August, but at least they fixed the pipe.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 10:46 am on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Seeing PR update on a few pages & domains. Made bugger all difference to traffic & conversions which continues to fall. Most of the sites that have taken our place are PR 0. Go Google!

SEOharsha



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 10:58 am on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Yep I could see changes in my websites pagerank
My 4 months old site went from 0 to 3 pr
It is amazing! :D

ohno



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 11:07 am on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Google’s Matt Cutts: No More PageRank Updates This Year
7th October 2013
http://searchengineland.com/googles-matt-cutts-no-more-pagerank-updates-this-year-173676 [searchengineland.com]
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carlos the jackal



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 12:59 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

@ohno - I was just thinking that very thing.

Surely this alone throws anything Google says about anything into doubt.

n0tSEO



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 1:15 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Most of my blogs went down to PR0, one went from N/A to 1 and another from 1 to 2.

Interestingly enough, the most active blogs were downgraded while these two that went up didn't get updates in a long time.

tigger

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 1:17 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

thankfully this means the next time a member here posts his Cutts "useful" insights we can forward him onto this thread <snip>

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goodroi

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 1:24 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Google never said PageRank would not be updated. Matt Cutts said he would be surprised if PageRank was updated this year. Since we are just 3 weeks away from the year being over, I would guess Matt Cutts is only mildly surprised.



Mods Note Let's keep this discussion on topic and skip any personal attacks which does not help any of us to improve our SEO efforts.

robzilla

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 1:47 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Thank you, goodroi.

I do wonder if, now the pipe's been fixed, we'll start seeing 'regular' updates again.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 1:56 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

What difference does it make? I see PR0 outranking PR4 sites. So what does PR mean these days?

tigger

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 2:01 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

My PR0 site has been top for years so yes I agree with you ohno its pointless

carlos the jackal



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 2:14 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

It's more the conflicting information that is pertinent to things.

n0tSEO



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 2:31 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

My post was more about reporting facts than about PageRank's real value, but if I were to speak of value, I would say it has none. Toolbar PR is more for aesthetics than rankings.

mrengine



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 3:14 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

What difference does it make? I see PR0 outranking PR4 sites. So what does PR mean these days?

I agree with this statement. Look at Amazon. Their homepage is PR N/A.

EditorialGuy

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 3:14 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Toolbar PR is more for aesthetics than rankings.


These days, it's mostly a valuation metric for people who buy or sell links.

mrengine



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 3:16 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

These days, it's mostly a valuation metric for people who buy or sell links.

Not really. PR is more about free marketing for Google. When toolbar PR is exported, all webmaster forums and blogs start talking about Google.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 3:20 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

I agree with this statement. Look at Amazon. Their homepage is PR N/A.

& yet anyone in ecom right now knows how they rank (just about number 1 for every term known to man)

ohno



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 3:23 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Not really. PR is more about free marketing for Google. When toolbar PR is exported, all webmaster forums and blogs start talking about Google.

I agree with editorialguy. I get spam emails day in day out promising links to PR7+ sites like it's all that matters. Matt Cutts hasn't even posted on his own blog about this update (or at least hadn't when I checked). Not to mention how long it has taken for them to fix the datapipe issue, PR is not a priority in their own words. Maybe that green bar is yet another example of webmasters wasting their time.

n0tSEO



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 3:29 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

mostly a valuation metric for people who buy or sell links


The link seller in me continues to advise and educate advertisers on the value of link and its not being related to PageRank at all. PR doesn't bring in targeted traffic and conversions; other factors do.

Buying a link on the basis of PR is like buy a t-shirt because it's branded, but sometimes brand doesn't equal quality of the fabric and materials.

Toolbar PageRank adds... some color; that's why I said it's about aesthetics. The real PageRank value is hidden to us.

Amazon. Their homepage is PR N/A.


Great example. :)

mrengine



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 3:58 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

I agree with editorialguy. I get spam emails day in day out promising links to PR7+ sites like it's all that matters. Matt Cutts hasn't even posted on his own blog about this update (or at least hadn't when I checked). Not to mention how long it has taken for them to fix the datapipe issue, PR is not a priority in their own words. Maybe that green bar is yet another example of webmasters wasting their time.

Link selling spam, that references pagerank, mostly originate from India and Pakistan. The spams I get from Canada, USA, UK, Australia are now talking about domain authority and page authority numbers (Moz data). Some also limit links selling to those with relevant websites.

I think wiser link buyers out there have ditched pagerank almost completely, except for those who have failed to evolve with the times. But if I'm not mistaken, and could be, Moz data also relies on pagerank to calculate their scores.

While some lesser educated link sellers and buyers may still use pagerank to value links, Google sucks up the free advertising every time they export pagerank to the toolbar. It's an interesting relationship that Google stays involved in, considering how outspoken they are about buying and selling links.

diszdani



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 4:23 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

what are the things considered in giving PR?

EditorialGuy

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 5:10 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

PR is more about free marketing for Google. When toolbar PR is exported, all webmaster forums and blogs start talking about Google.


Yes, but not always in positive ways. (Does Google really benefit from "Matt Cutts is stupid or a liar" publicity?)

AlexB77

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 5:30 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Yes,

3 sites went from 3 to 5
1 site from 5 to 8


robzilla

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 5:43 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Allegedly, "the reason they still have it is not because SEOs use it but rather because searchers and users still use it to determine how “reputable” a web site is." [searchengineland.com...] I don't find that too hard to believe.

While I don't trust nor value toolbar PR highly, I do enjoy these updates for the insight they give me into the flow of PageRank throughout my sites; in the past, it's helped me discover (and fix) errors and suboptimal internal navigation.

There's no point in arguing the correlation with rankings; I had hoped that discussion ended years ago.

Flawed as it may be, it's still a free metric. I'll take it as a healthy signal that my new site jumped straight up to a PR5.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 5:56 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

So users see it as an indicator of reputation & trust yet new sites go from PR0 to PR5?! That seems a pretty big flaw in its own right, how new are we talking?

rainborick

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 6:05 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

There's no point in arguing the correlation with rankings; I had hoped that discussion ended years ago.


Amen.

mrengine



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 6:33 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Allegedly, "the reason they still have it is not because SEOs use it but rather because searchers and users still use it to determine how “reputable” a web site is." I don't find that too hard to believe.

I find it very hard to believe. If a metric of "trust" is only updated by Google 2-4 times a year, Google must not really care about those that use it for this purpose.

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