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Toolbar PageRank Updated 6th Dec 2013
noor7300



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 9:34 am on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Guys.. good news, there is a confirmed page rank update by Google just rolled out right now few minutes ago on 6th Dec 2013 and 3:00 PM IST.

Just check your pages and then tell me.

I got huge PR improvement in my site.

How I knew ?
Before two hours I was checking a site who had PR 5 but now when I visited it it was 0... So, I just figured it our by checking whole my site and found all pages are improved. So there is a PR update..

ENJOY !

:-) :)

[edited by: aakk9999 at 10:10 am (utc) on Dec 6, 2013]
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Lame_Wolf

WebmasterWorld Senior Member lame_wolf us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 7:03 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Amazon. Their homepage is PR N/A.

Actually, Amazon.com is PR8, as it the .co.uk version.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 7:09 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

/\ My thoughts exactly, see my thread Re:trust! Google talks about it a lot. Trust matters most with ecom? I think it does.....

jakegotmail

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 8:39 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Was anyone else seeing updates well in advance of this announcement?

As I posted elsewhere in WebmasterWorld a number of weeks back, I was observing PR changes in mid to late October.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 8:44 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Can't say I checked as it's a pointless signal. Sorry

goodroi

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 8:55 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

I have several new websites and they did not show any TBPR till this morning. I checked them when jakegotmail posted about this in the past.

If I had to guess maybe Google was doing some short term testing to see if the TBPR pipeline was correctly fixed and that is what jakegotmail saw but when I checked the test was over, just my guess.

bledian93



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 9:09 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Hi I see google change my pagerank , but not so good my website [my site] got PR1 , i thinked for more :(

[edited by: brotherhood_of_LAN at 9:12 pm (utc) on Dec 6, 2013]
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JD_Toims

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 9:46 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Page Rank Updated 6th Dec 2013

Phew, I can finally sleep again! lol :)

phranque

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 9:49 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

just to be precise, it should be pointed out that it was barry's headline that said no more PR updates this year.
the YT video matt cutts posted earlier this year (10 months ago) actually stated TBPR would be supported while people continued to use it.
(obviously not well-supported while it is or was broken)

JD_Toims

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 10:14 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

...it should be pointed out that it was barry's headline that said no more PR updates this year.

That's a *great* point Phranque!

I understand sensationalism sells and gets read, but I think there's a big enough case of "but they said..." due to sensationalist headlines going around the reality of what was said by MC wrt PageRank updates pre-2014 should be noted.

The following are the actual twitter "question + response" which can be found here:
https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/386910092563447808 [twitter.com]

Niels Bosch @NielsBoschh

@mattcutts will there be a PR update before 2014?

Matt Cutts @mattcutts

@NielsBoschh I would be surprised if that happened.

MC did not say "No PageRank Update Before 2014" -- He said, "I would be surprised if that happened."
.

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 5:42 am (utc) on Dec 7, 2013]
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robzilla

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 11:28 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Twitter - Matt Cutts (@mattcutts)
https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/409041994707517440 [twitter.com]

Team was fixing a different backend service and did a PR update along the way.

[edited by: aakk9999 at 11:44 pm (utc) on Dec 6, 2013]
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Tonearm

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 11:34 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Is there a trustworthy way to check your PR on Linux without giving your URL to who-knows-who?

ColourOfSpring



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 11:51 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

What an utterly utterly meaningless signal that is gaining a lot of attention on this forum. It's my first time back to this forum in about 4 months and people are "buzzing" about a #*$! page rank update. See you all again in 4 or 5 month's time I guess.

aakk9999

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 11:52 pm on Dec 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

It is worth reading Matt Cutts twitter conversation which robzilla provided the link to a couple of posts above this one.

Apparently it was easier to push the new PR data onto the toolbar than to preserve the existing (old) toolbar data whilst Google was fixing a back-end service that handles dupes and equivalent names.

What I am wondering is what impact on SERPs there were by having dupes and equivalent names service broken - and will fixing it have the effect on SERPs.

robzilla

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 12:08 am on Dec 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

@aakk9999: Thanks, I couldn't get it linked for some reason.

Not sure how I should imagine this "dupes and equivalent names service", and how that would be related to toolbar PR.

Is there a trustworthy way to check your PR on Linux without giving your URL to who-knows-who?

A Firefox plugin?

brotherhood of LAN

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 2:15 am on Dec 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

There were pagerank checking scripts floating about, at least up until a year or two ago. Those check Google's servers without a middle man. I had a quick Google and easily found a PHP one that works fine.

viral



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 5:17 am on Dec 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

I find it very hard to believe. If a metric of "trust" is only updated by Google 2-4 times a year, Google must not really care about those that use it for this purpose.


@mrengine PR is still important to Google. They update it internally daily from most reports.

OK so they only update external PR a ew times a year at least it gives us some indication of what is going on inside the Googleplex.

PR isn't what it used to be but it is still a guage of which direction your site is headed. If you have upward movement then good. If you have no movement then there is probably no useful information. If you have downward movement then you know you got work to do.

viral



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 5:19 am on Dec 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

Incidentally I have a clients site that went from pr 0 to pr 5 which is nice. The traffic that the site gets is a better indicator of how well it is doing. PR increase is nice confirmation that things are going good.... so far!

RedBar

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Msg#: 4628292 posted 2:04 pm on Dec 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

If you have downward movement then you know you got work to do.


Although the problem is, for some of us, that Google's image grab in January has decimated our traffic to almost zero. My main gallery's image traffic this last week has been 5% of pre-grab, if this continues into the New Year then I shall simply remove tens of thousands of images.

During November I had well in excess of 125,000 Forbidden 403s generated by people attempting to hotlink images from Google. PR? Blah...load of crock with such blatant theft!

n0tSEO



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 2:18 pm on Dec 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

@viral - Did you notice any relationship between the increase or decrease in toolbar PR and your website's performance?

I haven't noticed any difference in years. All I saw was an increase of interest in link buyers. My websites' performance never suffered from a decrease in PR.

viral



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 1:29 am on Dec 8, 2013 (gmt 0)

@notseo

not really! It took so long for Google to update the PR in toolbar that we can't really make any correlation. It is just nice to get a bit of confirmation that things are going in the right direction.

This particular site has been going viral since about june so we expected at least a pr 4 or something. It gets links from buzzfeed/reddit and even a few from WSJ.

So PR 5 is nice but it is the traffic that is the true reward. Now the PR ladder becomes much steeper. Getting 6+ will be a challenge but as long as the traffic keeps flowing I won't be too concerned if we don't achieve it for a year or so.

noor7300



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 2:43 am on Dec 8, 2013 (gmt 0)

I was actually not believing when I just got PR fluctuation as Matt Cutt has rejected any PR update this year before few days.

Simsi

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4628292 posted 10:02 pm on Dec 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

I don't look at TBPR nor do I think it has any direct correlation to your ranking but what it *might* do is provide a hint to the effectiveness of your internal linking structure and that definitely does correlate.

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