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Site in Google UK SERPs in the wilderness, but ranks fine on other Google(s)
lee_sufc




msg:4622801
 3:14 pm on Nov 12, 2013 (gmt 0)

Background:

My site is +11+ years old and is hosted in the UK. For years, I ranked fairly well on Google.co.uk, however, with the recent Algo changes over the past few years, we've gradually fallen for pretty much every keyword.

During this time, we carried on doing what we always have done...natural link building, adding new content, improving site engagement, etc etc.

We've also made a number of other improvements; including a move to a responsive design to reduce bounce rates on mobile devices, moved to a dedicated server to increase speed (for usability)...the list goes on.

However, no matter what we do, Google UK doesn't want to know. Other Google sites (other than .com), love us! We rank page 1 for pretty much all our main KWs...yet we're hosted in the UK, have a UK-address and UK pricing?

What are we doing wrong?

The only one thing I can think of is that our site is a .net However, I am not too happy to change this as it's well established and I'm frightened a move to a new .co.uk URL would cause more damage. I've also read that providing a site is hosted in the target country , the .net domain shouldn't be an issue?

Anyone have any similar stories / ideas?

 

n00b1




msg:4622831
 6:28 pm on Nov 12, 2013 (gmt 0)

Have you tried enforcing a UK geotarget in WMT? Maybe some off-site signals are confusing Google? To be honest my website is behaving a bit strangely in Google UK for certain keywords at the moment but is fine elsewhere. It's also UK hosted and that's where I'm based.

lee_sufc




msg:4622847
 7:21 pm on Nov 12, 2013 (gmt 0)

Yep - been geotargeted to the UK for a couple of years at least. I primarily have links back to my site from UK sites, too?

Savanadry




msg:4622868
 9:30 pm on Nov 12, 2013 (gmt 0)

We're in a similar situation with one quite small site, hit pretty hard in .com and .co.uk but still does great in .ca (hosted in the UK).

I have no idea why as any theories we come up with are pretty much dispelled by what we hear from other webmasters and SEO's. Only thing I can say is that most of our inbound links come from .com / .co.uk's, with hardly any from Canada. Would make more sense if we were hit by penguin, but our drops coincide with Panda.

PCInk




msg:4622939
 9:53 am on Nov 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

There is something not right with Google results at the moment.

I have never seen so many Russian and Australian sites in the searches I have done in the last month or two from the UK, so it may be happening the to lots of sites.

engine




msg:4622944
 10:46 am on Nov 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

This has been going on for a long time, and is very frustrating if you're searching. It must be even more annoying if your site is being handled this way.

I tried to raise this with Matt Cutts on the topic of non-uk sites appearing in the index as it's really making the UK SERPs look poor.

I'll try again.

ohno




msg:4622953
 12:59 pm on Nov 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

I really do think Google has (& has had the issue for some time) a geo target issue. It's interesting that a post above says they see Australian & Russian results-we are UK based selling UK specific products yet have been getting a fair few hits from the aforementioned countries! Perhaps crossed wires somewhere in Google's algo.......

(although we ALWAYS & I mean ALWAYS see foreign hits when an update is passing through for some reason....)

lee_sufc




msg:4622979
 3:39 pm on Nov 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

I'm glad I'm not alone in noticing this issue (makes me feel slightly better!)

@engine - you mentioned you tried to raise this with Matt Cutts. Could I ask how you went about this so I can do the same?

Despite me being targeted in every way to the UK (links, WMT geo settings, language etc), I get more results from Google France, Germany, South Africa, Hong Kong and the Maldives (surprisingly)...although it's nice to rank so well in those countries (and others), the visitors are pretty worthless in terms of s.

engine




msg:4622989
 4:32 pm on Nov 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

@lee_sufc

I did that while I was at Pubcon in Las Vegas

kellyman




msg:4623089
 11:02 pm on Nov 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

My Site just recently and i believed it to be part of one of the many algo changes, however Yesterday just browsing through my WMT account i found that the site in question had changed its geo location, I put it back to show UK and got a message in My account to say it had been changed, but i know for a fact that last month it was pointing to UK so how it changed i have no idea

Google WMT is a little buggy atm

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